BF2S Forums The Situation in Libya

liquidat0r wrote:

menzo wrote:

BREAKING: PSYOPS is running! USAF EC-130J tail nr 00-1934 callsign STEEL 74 transmitting messages to #Libya on HF freq #OdysseeDawn

This means absolutely nothing to me ... Just a bunch of TLA's (ish) and numbers.

Psychological operations are running!

United States Air Force EC-130J



tail nr is the number on the tail (00-1934)


callsign STEEL 74 = radio call sign Steel 74


transmitting messages to Libya on HF frequency


#OdysseeDawn is the twitter account



Edit - and yes, it was an entirely useless post on menzo's part.

Last edited by Jay (2011-03-20 10:49:10)

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psychologi … _States%29

Now it makes more sense.

However I now have the mental image of the US beaming some form of radiation across Libya (picture: Propaganda towers/tanks that the Chinese have in C&C Generals), reconfiguring brains.

menzo wrote:

i posted it because it isnt really in the mandate to spread propaganda.

"all means....."

those chicks holding thse signs up are hot. jesus christ they need to come to my house wearing some thongs!

menzo wrote:

Head of Libyan armed forces orders all units to observe an immediate cease-fire beginning at 9 p.m. local time (3 p.m. ET) - Reuters

cease-fire part 2, lets see holw long it takes until they break it again, probably 2mins

1 ms...

before a Libyan soldier's AK pops off another round.

I know it's a very broad term but,

Does it work? Worth the effort?

my favorite part of psyop was harassment

Shocking wrote:

I know it's a very broad term but,

Does it work? Worth the effort?

It's essential.

the best way psyop works is to get people snitching on their neighbors.

its hard to measure the effectiveness of psyop.  the best modern effective psyop campaign would probably be during the persian gulf when so many thousands of iraqis surrendered without firing a shot.  these guys were running to and surrending to news media crews that were ahead of the columns.  it was effective in oif too.   heres a rumor: because of the messed up translation our psyop campaign had before the invasion of iraq in 2003, a lot of the iraqi airforce was found buried underneath the desert.  the psyo message was telling the iraqis to "ground" their airforce.  the messed up translation was telling the iraqis to put their airforce in the ground. 

Shocking wrote:

There's troops specialised in psyops nowadays right? They go around annoying people all day?

thats what i did when i changed my mos from 11b to 37f.  like I said my favorite part of psyop was the deployment of harassment ops, when we get to try and piss off the enemy so they would attack.  and surrender ops are funny too.    also psyop gets used as a decoy a lot. training for that was fun.  the loudspeaker is pretty powerful and psyop would mimmick the sound of an element of armor. misdirection ops.

Shocking wrote:

Sounds like a fun job I'd say, what was that about it not working much?

I suppose psyops like that is still very much in its infancy, no?

It's as old as combat itself. Most of Sun Tzu's Art of War is in regards to psychological operations, misdirecting and demoralizing the enemy before you ever come into contact with them.

Hell, in WWI and WWII, Erwin Rommel's favorite 'trick' was to display a show of force and then walk out in front of his men waving a white handkerchief asking for the enemy to surrender. More often than not, it worked, and his men were victorious without having to fire a shot. PsyOps is simply the art of negatively impacting enemy morale.

Another great example is Napoleon and his reputation. He had a huge advantage going into any engagement simply because his enemies thought of him as an invincible genius. The enemy assumed they were going to lose before the first shot was even fired and thus were more likely to break on contact.

In the current situation, the most effective means of psychological warfare would simply be to broadcast the truth to the Libyan populace. Give them access to CNN and Sky and allow them to see news from our point of view instead of through the filter of the Gaddafi controlled tv network.

eleven bravo wrote:

its hard to measure the effectiveness of psyop.  the best modern effective psyop campaign would probably be during the persian gulf when so many thousands of iraqis surrendered without firing a shot.  these guys were running to and surrending to news media crews that were ahead of the columns.  it was effective in oif too.   heres a rumor: because of the messed up translation our psyop campaign had before the invasion of iraq in 2003, a lot of the iraqi airforce was found buried underneath the desert.  the psyo message was telling the iraqis to "ground" their airforce.  the messed up translation was telling the iraqis to put their airforce in the ground. 

http://67.19.222.106/photos/images/mig01.jpg

Not a rumor. Was the difference between MSA and Iraqi-specific dialect.