I don't really see the point in this. Nobody is going to stop pirating because of this same circle jerk we've done 20 times in the last 5 years the same as you're not about to start pirating.
I've never heard of sigur ros. I'm going to bet most Americans haven't either.
i havent played any games for 7 months.
so...
so...
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
Umm, they weren't that big. They were huge among hipsters but never became mainstream. Kind of a flop really depending on goals.Uzique wrote:
sigur ros pre-127 hours? dude are you fucking kidding? sigur ros come from iceland. 'other side of the world'? that's your doorstep. sigur ros were the BIGGEST BAND IN THE PLANET like... 4 years ago. they toured the states about 10 times. they released a best-selling DVD about 3 years ago, post their world-domination. they appeared on every single american prime-time TV show and headlined every single major world festival.Winston_Churchill wrote:
i feel like you forget we live on opposite sides of the world. what exposure would he have here without downloading/the internet? and pre-127 hours
you've been under a rock. and your ignorance doesn't 'justify' piracy, anyway. why would the record companies care?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Indeed. Maybe people who regularly watched MTV or shit like that did know of 'em.Macbeth wrote:
I've never heard of sigur ros. I'm going to bet most Americans haven't either.
Nah, if anything, it was the type of person that reads Spin magazine.DesertFox- wrote:
Indeed. Maybe people who regularly watched MTV or shit like that did know of 'em.Macbeth wrote:
I've never heard of sigur ros. I'm going to bet most Americans haven't either.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
i dont live in america either...Uzique wrote:
sigur ros pre-127 hours? dude are you fucking kidding? sigur ros come from iceland. 'other side of the world'? that's your doorstep. sigur ros were the BIGGEST BAND IN THE PLANET like... 4 years ago. they toured the states about 10 times. they released a best-selling DVD about 3 years ago, post their world-domination. they appeared on every single american prime-time TV show and headlined every single major world festival.Winston_Churchill wrote:
i feel like you forget we live on opposite sides of the world. what exposure would he have here without downloading/the internet? and pre-127 hours
you've been under a rock. and your ignorance doesn't 'justify' piracy, anyway. why would the record companies care?
i bet if you walked around here and asked people who knew of them you'd find less than 5% did. i've yet to meet anyone who has.
music exposure isnt the same in every country around the world, and canada is probably one of the worst for it due to our lack of festivals/population/radio/crtc
Haven't done it, never will -could care less about everyone else. Now back to the 11 v M3th match.
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kind of a flop? they're the biggest post-rock band of all time. their music has been licensed and used to death on every advert, tv show and movie around. they are practically the benchmark for paint-by-numbers post-rock; they ushered in a whole 5 year era in 'rock' music full of clones, poor copies and general blandness. sigur ros is now a synonymous by-term for 'typical post rock' in any circle that knows anything about music. again it's like you're parading your ignorance as if it's a kind of asset... and none of it is defends piracy at all, anyway.JohnG@lt wrote:
Umm, they weren't that big. They were huge among hipsters but never became mainstream. Kind of a flop really depending on goals.Uzique wrote:
sigur ros pre-127 hours? dude are you fucking kidding? sigur ros come from iceland. 'other side of the world'? that's your doorstep. sigur ros were the BIGGEST BAND IN THE PLANET like... 4 years ago. they toured the states about 10 times. they released a best-selling DVD about 3 years ago, post their world-domination. they appeared on every single american prime-time TV show and headlined every single major world festival.Winston_Churchill wrote:
i feel like you forget we live on opposite sides of the world. what exposure would he have here without downloading/the internet? and pre-127 hours
you've been under a rock. and your ignorance doesn't 'justify' piracy, anyway. why would the record companies care?
"they weren't that big over here, except for in faggy 'cool' circles... so i should be allowed to get their music for free"!
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Well, you're just not running with the right crowd of people now are ya?Winston_Churchill wrote:
i dont live in america either...Uzique wrote:
sigur ros pre-127 hours? dude are you fucking kidding? sigur ros come from iceland. 'other side of the world'? that's your doorstep. sigur ros were the BIGGEST BAND IN THE PLANET like... 4 years ago. they toured the states about 10 times. they released a best-selling DVD about 3 years ago, post their world-domination. they appeared on every single american prime-time TV show and headlined every single major world festival.Winston_Churchill wrote:
i feel like you forget we live on opposite sides of the world. what exposure would he have here without downloading/the internet? and pre-127 hours
you've been under a rock. and your ignorance doesn't 'justify' piracy, anyway. why would the record companies care?
i bet if you walked around here and asked people who knew of them you'd find less than 5% did. i've yet to meet anyone who has.
music exposure isnt the same in every country around the world, and canada is probably one of the worst for it due to our lack of festivals/population/radio/crtc
Next time you see a nice looking chap such as this:
Befriend him and you too may enter the world of music snobbery. Be warned however, your musical taste must be able to change at the drop of a hat or at the first syllable of any ill word said about a band by people who 'matter'.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
very curious seeing as i know 3 canadian international students that hang out with us every other fucking day and they're some of the most music literate and artistically involved people i have ever met. they're arranging gigs, shows and art exhibitions like every month- back home in canada and here. sigur ros to them would be a joke. so don't use this whole "wah i'm a canadian!" bullshit. you're talking shit.Winston_Churchill wrote:
music exposure isnt the same in every country around the world, and canada is probably one of the worst for it due to our lack of festivals/population/radio/crtc
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He didn't say that at all...Uzique wrote:
"they weren't that big over here, except for in faggy 'cool' circles... so i should be allowed to get their music for free"!
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11 Bravo, FYI, here in Austria it's completely legal to share music and films for private, non-commercial use (i.e. family, friends).
Furthermore, even downloading is perfectly legal here in Austria, provided you don't upload at the same time (which most BitTorrent clients do by default), as there are no laws that differentiate such a copy from a private use copy as mentioned above.
And the thing is, with the bittorrent protocol, you're only uploading parts of the full file, so this also falls into a gray area.
For computer games and software, it's pretty much the same, as long as you don't circumvent any copy protection mechanisms (i.e. cracking) in the process. If for example a copy protection is out-dated and every standard burning software can copy it, you can go on and use it privately and non-commercially.
So, 11 Bravo, would you please stop your babbling now, if all you do is continually repeat your American point-of-view, with no knowledge about other countries' juridical situation?
Furthermore, even downloading is perfectly legal here in Austria, provided you don't upload at the same time (which most BitTorrent clients do by default), as there are no laws that differentiate such a copy from a private use copy as mentioned above.
And the thing is, with the bittorrent protocol, you're only uploading parts of the full file, so this also falls into a gray area.
For computer games and software, it's pretty much the same, as long as you don't circumvent any copy protection mechanisms (i.e. cracking) in the process. If for example a copy protection is out-dated and every standard burning software can copy it, you can go on and use it privately and non-commercially.
So, 11 Bravo, would you please stop your babbling now, if all you do is continually repeat your American point-of-view, with no knowledge about other countries' juridical situation?
I love how 11b still thinks I'm the ultimate example of a pirate...
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
the whole 'i would never have discovered this music otherwise' argument is total bullshit. you can discover a band and preview their material for free without having to PIRATE it. if you want to discover music - sign up for spotify, pandora, last.fm... hell, tune in to your fucking radio. you don't have to pirate their music to validly 'discover' it. it's a bullshit argument. i'm sorry. i download up to 1Gb of music a day and i'd still never say "well if it wasn't for the GIMME IT FREE download button, i woulda never heard of this band!"... because it's simply untrue. that's dumb logic.
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why would i discuss it if it were legal? i dont care about other countries laws.globefish23 wrote:
11 Bravo, FYI, here in Austria it's completely legal to share music and films for private, non-commercial use (i.e. family, friends).
Furthermore, even downloading is perfectly legal here in Austria, provided you don't upload at the same time (which most BitTorrent clients do by default), as there are no laws that differentiate such a copy from a private use copy as mentioned above.
And the thing is, with the bittorrent protocol, you're only uploading parts of the full file, so this also falls into a gray area.
For computer games and software, it's pretty much the same, as long as you don't circumvent any copy protection mechanisms (i.e. cracking) in the process. If for example a copy protection is out-dated and every standard burning software can copy it, you can go on and use it privately and non-commercially.
So, 11 Bravo, would you please stop your babbling now, if all you do is continually repeat your American point-of-view, with no knowledge about other countries' juridical situation?
there wouldnt be an OP now would there? fuck sake. go back to EE
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Whenever I pirate I use my neighbors wifi. I'm stealing while stealing.
no you are just the ultimate dumb fuckFloppY_ wrote:
I love how 11b still thinks I'm the ultimate example of a pirate...
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Whatever you say man. I downloaded a Sigur Rios song by accident once, said meh, and moved on. That was about eight years ago and that one downloaded song is the only reason I recognized their name when they had their five minutes of semi-fame here in the US. "zomg you have to listen to this band Sigur Rios!" shit like that lasts a fleeting moment in time. Last year it was Manchester Orchestra and MGMT, then they hit the radio, and became uncool to the fags that made them popular in the first place. This past summer it was Mumford and Sons and Grizzly Bear.Uzique wrote:
kind of a flop? they're the biggest post-rock band of all time. their music has been licensed and used to death on every advert, tv show and movie around. they are practically the benchmark for paint-by-numbers post-rock; they ushered in a whole 5 year era in 'rock' music full of clones, poor copies and general blandness. sigur ros is now a synonymous by-term for 'typical post rock' in any circle that knows anything about music. again it's like you're parading your ignorance as if it's a kind of asset... and none of it is defends piracy at all, anyway.JohnG@lt wrote:
Umm, they weren't that big. They were huge among hipsters but never became mainstream. Kind of a flop really depending on goals.Uzique wrote:
sigur ros pre-127 hours? dude are you fucking kidding? sigur ros come from iceland. 'other side of the world'? that's your doorstep. sigur ros were the BIGGEST BAND IN THE PLANET like... 4 years ago. they toured the states about 10 times. they released a best-selling DVD about 3 years ago, post their world-domination. they appeared on every single american prime-time TV show and headlined every single major world festival.
you've been under a rock. and your ignorance doesn't 'justify' piracy, anyway. why would the record companies care?
"they weren't that big over here, except for in faggy 'cool' circles... so i should be allowed to get their music for free"!
I was a music snob while you were in diapers uzique, and I'm not using that as a put down, it's just a statement of fact. You'll either grow out of the phase or you'll become so fucking pretentious that people won't want to be in the same room with you when you start talking about music. Trust me.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
oh and youre a beer snob also?JohnG@lt wrote:
I was a music snob while you were in diapers uzique
nah youre just a douche
Shouldn't you be out being a blue falcon somewhere?11 Bravo wrote:
oh and youre a beer snob also?JohnG@lt wrote:
I was a music snob while you were in diapers uzique
nah youre just a douche
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
don't excuse your ignorance with some petty "you're a music snob/elitist/hipster faggot argument"JohnG@lt wrote:
Well, you're just not running with the right crowd of people now are ya?Winston_Churchill wrote:
i dont live in america either...Uzique wrote:
sigur ros pre-127 hours? dude are you fucking kidding? sigur ros come from iceland. 'other side of the world'? that's your doorstep. sigur ros were the BIGGEST BAND IN THE PLANET like... 4 years ago. they toured the states about 10 times. they released a best-selling DVD about 3 years ago, post their world-domination. they appeared on every single american prime-time TV show and headlined every single major world festival.
you've been under a rock. and your ignorance doesn't 'justify' piracy, anyway. why would the record companies care?
i bet if you walked around here and asked people who knew of them you'd find less than 5% did. i've yet to meet anyone who has.
music exposure isnt the same in every country around the world, and canada is probably one of the worst for it due to our lack of festivals/population/radio/crtc
Next time you see a nice looking chap such as this:
http://1thought2many.files.wordpress.co … ipster.png
Befriend him and you too may enter the world of music snobbery. Be warned however, your musical taste must be able to change at the drop of a hat or at the first syllable of any ill word said about a band by people who 'matter'.
here, this album came out in 1999
1999. 1999. 1999. they had like 3 EVEN MORE SUCCESSFUL albums after that. there is no way you can pass this off as the snooty preserve of a musical, hip, cool-crowd elite. sigur ros brought post-rock to the mainstream and they are still to this day synonymous with that 'brand' of absolutely ubiquitous and inescapable rock music. you're wrong. just back down for once? or will you conspicuously log out and send me an apologetic PM again from your shady alt account? pathetic, really.International acclaim came with 1999's Ágætis byrjun ([au̯ɣai̯tʰɪs pɪrjʏn] "An all right start"). The album's reputation spread by word of mouth over the following two years. Soon critics worldwide hailed it as one of the great albums of its time,[3] and the band was playing support to established acts such as Radiohead. Three songs, Ágætis byrjun', "Svefn-g-englar", and a live take of the then-unreleased "Njósnavélin" (later 'un-named' "Untitled #4") appeared in the Cameron Crowe film Vanilla Sky. The two songs also subsequently appeared in the US version of the television series Queer as Folk. Their music has also appeared in the TV series 24 with Ný batterí, CSI with "Svefn-g-englar" and CSI: Miami with "Untitled 3" (a.k.a. Samskeyti). In 2004, Wes Anderson used "Starálfur" in The Life Aquatic with Steve Zissou[4] as did the Emmy winning 2005 TV film The Girl in the Café and "Untitled 3" (a.k.a. Samskeyti) can be heard in the final scene from the Gregg Araki film Mysterious Skin. It can also be heard in Skins. They are also used in Enki Bilal's Immortel (Ad Vitam). The song "Svefn-g-englar" was also used on "V (2009 TV series)" on November 24, 2009.
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no but i will bang your future mistake if you likeJohnG@lt wrote:
Shouldn't you be out being a blue falcon somewhere?11 Bravo wrote:
oh and youre a beer snob also?JohnG@lt wrote:
I was a music snob while you were in diapers uzique
nah youre just a douche
don't talk down to me like some veteran. you're a fat cunt that graduated from a shitty navy college and thinks he has seen the world and has 'perspective', just because you joined the military to escape your shitty home upbringing and your deadbeat family. hey look! john is a fucking guru and can talk down to anyone younger than him on matters as diverse as geopolitics, economics, culture and science... no. shut up for once in your fucking life.JohnG@lt wrote:
I was a music snob while you were in diapers uzique, and I'm not using that as a put down, it's just a statement of fact. You'll either grow out of the phase or you'll become so fucking pretentious that people won't want to be in the same room with you when you start talking about music. Trust me.
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I'm not wrong. Do you live in America? Have you ever lived in America? You've had four North Americans tell you in this thread they never even heard of Sigur Rios and one who has vague recollections of them being 'in'. Maybe they were popular in your crowd. They certainly were never mainstream.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat