So the guy got the initiative on you and is already upclose and personal. How long is it going to take to get that gun out and ready to fire? How long will it take to get stabbed?-Sh1fty- wrote:
Contribute to the discussion or GTFO.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just stop posting.-Sh1fty- wrote:
that guy who wants to steal my wallet either needs to GTFO or take a round.
So Dilbert, here's two scenarios.
#1 - You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. What do you do?
#0 -2 You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. You have a pistol on you. What do you do?
Already said, I am not a doctor, an EMT nor am I a combat medic. but yes, I would try and help to the extent of my ability. I have had limited training in dealing with these kinds of trauma, although I have never used it and might not remember portions of it.Nic wrote:
Oh, I thought it was self-evident. Guess not.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I've grown up around guns my entire life. I'm extremely safety conscious, I've never had any accidents with weapons or found a loaded weapon when it should have been empty.Nic wrote:
You are probably the last person I would ever want holding a gun to protect me. A prime example of why people should not have them.-Sh1fty- wrote:
If they ban guns the bad fellas will get a hold of them and you'll be fucked being the nice little law abiding citizen.
We need guns for protection.
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Why on earth wouldn't you want me to have a weapon to defend myself? You provided no reasoning whatsoever behind your claim that I'm an example of people who shouldn't own weapons.
Your argument is built on fail and supported by nothing.
By this, I mean I think the "Hero boy" complex you have displayed in these forum, most likely from playing video games and to much hollywood. Would make you more likely to cause the situation to come to a point where you could prove yourself a hero, thereby endangering everyone around you. I don't think you have sound judgement in this area because you would want to be the guy who save everyone, instead of being the guy who is put in the situation and does what is needed.
And lowing, you may have missed this:Nic wrote:
I mean, anybody else who may have been injured. If you're likely to get into a situation where you need to save lives with your gun. You're likely to find it just as helpful to know how to stabilize an injured person (see innocent bystander) to save their life after the shooting has stopped, assuming you are still alive.lowing wrote:
you mean save the guy that I shot? nope, don't want him saved, it is why I would have shot him.
#3 laugh at your weak skinny gaunt hobgoblin ass trying to lift a gun up.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Contribute to the discussion or GTFO.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just stop posting.-Sh1fty- wrote:
that guy who wants to steal my wallet either needs to GTFO or take a round.
So Dilbert, here's two scenarios.
#1 - You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. What do you do?
#0 -2 You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. You have a pistol on you. What do you do?
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
It's really mean of you to assume I'm the type of hero-scumbag who wants to go around killing people in the name of justice or something. Or even CREATING a situation where I could do that.Nic wrote:
Oh, I thought it was self-evident. Guess not.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I've grown up around guns my entire life. I'm extremely safety conscious, I've never had any accidents with weapons or found a loaded weapon when it should have been empty.Nic wrote:
You are probably the last person I would ever want holding a gun to protect me. A prime example of why people should not have them.
Why on earth wouldn't you want me to have a weapon to defend myself? You provided no reasoning whatsoever behind your claim that I'm an example of people who shouldn't own weapons.
Your argument is built on fail and supported by nothing.
By this, I mean I think the "Hero boy" complex you have displayed in these forum, most likely from playing video games and to much hollywood. Would make you more likely to cause the situation to come to a point where you could prove yourself a hero, thereby endangering everyone around you. I don't think you have sound judgement in this area because you would want to be the guy who save everyone, instead of being the guy who is put in the situation and does what is needed.
You're fucked up that way
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Make ya a deal, you take ALL the guns away from the criminals and make it impossible for them to possess them, and I will only carry my guns to the range. Deal?presidentsheep wrote:
I think there are less of those people than you believe there to be.lowing wrote:
I am not out to solve all possible scenarios, I am out to have the means to defend my own little part of this world from those that wish to rob me of it.presidentsheep wrote:
Not really, i'm trying to point out that sometimes its not instantly obvious who's responsible for what. You can't pick and choose who lives, that should ultimately in these sort of situations by up to your country's system of law.
I know you're never going to concede the point that guns are unnecessary, i'm just trying to make you see that there's some massive grey areas where it comes to taking a life.
As for shifty, i'm not even going to dignify that with a proper response.
Unless it is a compact light weight pistol or you are a gunslinger, you can take him out if so. Plus it helps if you know how to fight hand to hand while the guy with the knife doesn't have hand to hand training. You can grab his knife hand pull your gun and poof.
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The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
You're not contributing, get your sorry ass out of this thread.m3thod wrote:
#3 laugh at your weak skinny gaunt hobgoblin ass trying to lift a gun up.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Contribute to the discussion or GTFO.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just stop posting.
So Dilbert, here's two scenarios.
#1 - You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. What do you do?
#0 -2 You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. You have a pistol on you. What do you do?
I love how mature you are. "Lol shifty said something stupid, let me say something equally stupid to insult him, hahahahahaha this was so worth it"
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
in #0-2 I would jump in the car and run over his ass because if I use the gun and get a bunch of dilberts on the jury they fry me, but if I run him over with the car they will let me off.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Contribute to the discussion or GTFO.Dilbert_X wrote:
Just stop posting.-Sh1fty- wrote:
that guy who wants to steal my wallet either needs to GTFO or take a round.
So Dilbert, here's two scenarios.
#1 - You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. What do you do?
#0 -2 You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. You have a pistol on you. What do you do?
in #1 I tell him to give me his wallet or I will skull fuck him then I block his lunge with the knife, hip toss him to the ground, stomp on his throat, take his knife and wallet, then hit the next bar.
Your 'scenario' speaks volumes. You'll just end up getting yourself killed trying to draw a pistol when a guy already has a knife in your face. You imply that you'd try it anyway, and that's what I think Nic was getting at...-Sh1fty- wrote:
It's really mean of you to assume I'm the type of hero-scumbag who wants to go around killing people in the name of justice or something. Or even CREATING a situation where I could do that.Nic wrote:
Oh, I thought it was self-evident. Guess not.-Sh1fty- wrote:
I've grown up around guns my entire life. I'm extremely safety conscious, I've never had any accidents with weapons or found a loaded weapon when it should have been empty.
Why on earth wouldn't you want me to have a weapon to defend myself? You provided no reasoning whatsoever behind your claim that I'm an example of people who shouldn't own weapons.
Your argument is built on fail and supported by nothing.
By this, I mean I think the "Hero boy" complex you have displayed in these forum, most likely from playing video games and to much hollywood. Would make you more likely to cause the situation to come to a point where you could prove yourself a hero, thereby endangering everyone around you. I don't think you have sound judgement in this area because you would want to be the guy who save everyone, instead of being the guy who is put in the situation and does what is needed.
You're fucked up that way
You're awesome drool xD
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Deal, provided you don't then sell them to some libyans in a carpark.lowing wrote:
Make ya a deal, you take ALL the guns away from the criminals and make it impossible for them to possess them, and I will only carry my guns to the range. Deal?presidentsheep wrote:
I think there are less of those people than you believe there to be.lowing wrote:
I am not out to solve all possible scenarios, I am out to have the means to defend my own little part of this world from those that wish to rob me of it.
I know you're never going to concede the point that guns are unnecessary, i'm just trying to make you see that there's some massive grey areas where it comes to taking a life.
As for shifty, i'm not even going to dignify that with a proper response.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
who lives in Baltimore ? demographics etc..Turquoise wrote:
Not if you live in Baltimore...DrunkFace wrote:
More likely to be killed in a house fire then murdered with a gun.Hunter/Jumper wrote:
I have smoke alarms and I have never had a fire nor has anyone I ever knew for that matter.
I'm 120lbs soaking wet, what do you expect me to do, hand to hand fight the guy with the knife? I'm not giving him my fucking wallet. He can get richer off of fking welfareSenorToenails wrote:
Your 'scenario' speaks volumes. You'll just end up getting yourself killed trying to draw a pistol when a guy already has a knife in your face. You imply that you'd try it anyway, and that's what I think Nic was getting at...-Sh1fty- wrote:
It's really mean of you to assume I'm the type of hero-scumbag who wants to go around killing people in the name of justice or something. Or even CREATING a situation where I could do that.Nic wrote:
Oh, I thought it was self-evident. Guess not.
By this, I mean I think the "Hero boy" complex you have displayed in these forum, most likely from playing video games and to much hollywood. Would make you more likely to cause the situation to come to a point where you could prove yourself a hero, thereby endangering everyone around you. I don't think you have sound judgement in this area because you would want to be the guy who save everyone, instead of being the guy who is put in the situation and does what is needed.
You're fucked up that way
edit: wallet would be in the same place as my gun, he can't really do much if he thinks I'm reaching for the dough
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And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
no chancepresidentsheep wrote:
Deal, provided you don't then sell them to some libyans in a carpark.lowing wrote:
Make ya a deal, you take ALL the guns away from the criminals and make it impossible for them to possess them, and I will only carry my guns to the range. Deal?presidentsheep wrote:
I think there are less of those people than you believe there to be.
I know you're never going to concede the point that guns are unnecessary, i'm just trying to make you see that there's some massive grey areas where it comes to taking a life.
As for shifty, i'm not even going to dignify that with a proper response.
^^SenorToenails wrote:
Your 'scenario' speaks volumes. You'll just end up getting yourself killed trying to draw a pistol when a guy already has a knife in your face. You imply that you'd try it anyway, and that's what I think Nic was getting at...-Sh1fty- wrote:
It's really mean of you to assume I'm the type of hero-scumbag who wants to go around killing people in the name of justice or something. Or even CREATING a situation where I could do that.Nic wrote:
Oh, I thought it was self-evident. Guess not.
By this, I mean I think the "Hero boy" complex you have displayed in these forum, most likely from playing video games and to much hollywood. Would make you more likely to cause the situation to come to a point where you could prove yourself a hero, thereby endangering everyone around you. I don't think you have sound judgement in this area because you would want to be the guy who save everyone, instead of being the guy who is put in the situation and does what is needed.
You're fucked up that way
Start at :50. It's pretty much what would happen in most cases.
I'm not against protecting yourself or your property or anything...
What makes that guys life worth less than the contents of your wallet?-Sh1fty- wrote:
I'm 120lbs soaking wet, what do you expect me to do, hand to hand fight the guy with the knife? I'm not giving him my fucking wallet. He can get richer off of fking welfareSenorToenails wrote:
Your 'scenario' speaks volumes. You'll just end up getting yourself killed trying to draw a pistol when a guy already has a knife in your face. You imply that you'd try it anyway, and that's what I think Nic was getting at...-Sh1fty- wrote:
It's really mean of you to assume I'm the type of hero-scumbag who wants to go around killing people in the name of justice or something. Or even CREATING a situation where I could do that.
You're fucked up that way
edit: wallet would be in the same place as my gun, he can't really do much if he thinks I'm reaching for the dough
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
The term we usually use is ( STOP ) we want to Stop them. A gun does this well. Usually when they realize your armed they immediately cease their aggression, If they are Nuts or on something Then you'd really be glad to be armed as logic and reasoning doesn't work with Mad men. Though I have not had to draw down on the latter.presidentsheep wrote:
Post of the year.lowing wrote:
personally i do not. if he is still alive he is still a threat given his actions of the momentpresidentsheep wrote:
So provided he's the only one injured, do you make an effort to save him or not?
The fact he tries to take it.presidentsheep wrote:
What makes that guys life worth less than the contents of your wallet?-Sh1fty- wrote:
I'm 120lbs soaking wet, what do you expect me to do, hand to hand fight the guy with the knife? I'm not giving him my fucking wallet. He can get richer off of fking welfareSenorToenails wrote:
Your 'scenario' speaks volumes. You'll just end up getting yourself killed trying to draw a pistol when a guy already has a knife in your face. You imply that you'd try it anyway, and that's what I think Nic was getting at...
edit: wallet would be in the same place as my gun, he can't really do much if he thinks I'm reaching for the dough
Lol @ above video
I'm sure every "nigga" pulls up in a minivan with a shotgun and a 9 mike mike and forces you out of the car. That's how every robbery goes yeah...
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
What if he's taking it to feed his starving children?-Sh1fty- wrote:
The fact he tries to take it.presidentsheep wrote:
What makes that guys life worth less than the contents of your wallet?-Sh1fty- wrote:
I'm 120lbs soaking wet, what do you expect me to do, hand to hand fight the guy with the knife? I'm not giving him my fucking wallet. He can get richer off of fking welfare
edit: wallet would be in the same place as my gun, he can't really do much if he thinks I'm reaching for the dough
Lol @ above video
I'm sure every "nigga" pulls up in a minivan with a shotgun and a 9 mike mike and forces you out of the car. That's how every robbery goes yeah...
edit: for someone who bashes on about religion all the time and is a fairly open christian, have you ever even read the bible?
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I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Then he would do better to ask for help, not try and TAKE away from MY ability to feed my children.presidentsheep wrote:
What if he's taking it to feed his starving children?-Sh1fty- wrote:
The fact he tries to take it.presidentsheep wrote:
What makes that guys life worth less than the contents of your wallet?
Lol @ above video
I'm sure every "nigga" pulls up in a minivan with a shotgun and a 9 mike mike and forces you out of the car. That's how every robbery goes yeah...
edit: for someone who bashes on about religion all the time and is a fairly open christian, have you ever even read the bible?
and yes my wallet is worth more to me than the asshole's life that is threatening my life to take it
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Unless he's using a .50 Desert Eagle for conceal carry, I doubt lifting the gun will be an issue.m3thod wrote:
#3 laugh at your weak skinny gaunt hobgoblin ass trying to lift a gun up.
Yep, and I go to Bible study every Wednesday too.presidentsheep wrote:
What if he's taking it to feed his starving children?-Sh1fty- wrote:
The fact he tries to take it.presidentsheep wrote:
What makes that guys life worth less than the contents of your wallet?
Lol @ above video
I'm sure every "nigga" pulls up in a minivan with a shotgun and a 9 mike mike and forces you out of the car. That's how every robbery goes yeah...
edit: for someone who bashes on about religion all the time and is a fairly open christian, have you ever even read the bible?
He doesn't need to steal my wallet to feed his children, he could go to church and get plenty of help there, otherwise there's charity, oh and the government would feed him.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Sh1fty wrote:
#1 - You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. What do you do?
#0 -2 You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. You have a pistol on you. What do you do?
Nic wrote:
By this, I mean I think the "Hero boy" complex you have displayed in these forum, most likely from playing video games and too much hollywood. Would make you more likely to cause the situation to come to a point where you could prove yourself a hero, thereby endangering everyone around you. I don't think you have sound judgement in this area because you would want to be the guy who save everyone, instead of being the guy who is put in the situation and does what is needed.
Fuck Israel
@ presidentsheep- Let's say some guy walks up to you on the street with expired french onion dip and demands your wallet. You are carrying a concealed fire extinguisher because you have found it to be more usefull in most situations. What do you do?
1. eat the french onion dip
2. give him your wallet
3. spray him with fire extinguisher staining his clothes.
1. eat the french onion dip
2. give him your wallet
3. spray him with fire extinguisher staining his clothes.
I'd go nigga on his ass fo sho with my dual DeaglesDilbert_X wrote:
Sh1fty wrote:
#1 - You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. What do you do?
#0 -2 You're out having a drink with some pals and having a good time. Night comes to a close and you're walking to your car. Some asshole with a knife comes up and demands your wallet. You have a pistol on you. What do you do?Nic wrote:
By this, I mean I think the "Hero boy" complex you have displayed in these forum, most likely from playing video games and too much hollywood. Would make you more likely to cause the situation to come to a point where you could prove yourself a hero, thereby endangering everyone around you. I don't think you have sound judgement in this area because you would want to be the guy who save everyone, instead of being the guy who is put in the situation and does what is needed.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.