Shahter
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http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldne … acket.html

peace, freedom, democracy and... organ trafficking.

somebody, remind me again: what did usa & co went to kosovo for?

edit: fixed the link.

Last edited by Shahter (2010-12-17 04:29:42)

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cl4u53w1t2
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kosovo should never have been allowed to secede from serbia. it cannot survive on its own. it depends on subsidies and transfer payments from emigrants. massive unemployment rate, no industry etc. you name it

on the other hand, intervening militarily was quite necessary and justified...
Kmar
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https://i.imgur.com/MYMyJ.jpg

dead link .. but then again I don't honestly really care about kosovo. Clinton tried to convince us we needed to be there. Personally, I was never sold.
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Shahter
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Kmar wrote:

dead link .. but then again I don't honestly really care about kosovo. Clinton tried to convince us we needed to be there. Personally, I was never sold.
this is the stance assumed by many these days. very convenient.
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Kmar
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Is it really hard to wrap your mind around the fact that I don't care? I don't support nation building. Neither does my constitution. Our politicians don't seem to get that. .. and if you knew anything about me you'd know that I only support military responses to clear and immediate threats to our security. Kosovo was not.
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DonFck
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Is it the fault of the Kosovo people that people in high places are corrupt and dirty? Insert E.g. Russia-reference here. Also applies to pretty much every country with the government acting against the general will of the population. So that makes it every country. Except for maybe.. ..no, nothing springs to mind.

Would've it been better to leave everything in the loving and caring hands of Milosevic? I mean, first the US supported him, then they wanted him for crimes against humanity. Wow, insert Saddam Hussein-reference here.

I'm not pointing a finger in any direction, I'm just saying that nothing's simple and explained just like that. -Sh1fty- should read this line.
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Shahter
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DonFck wrote:

Is it the fault of the Kosovo people that people in high places are corrupt and dirty?
this is what happens when you try to establish so called "democracy" in places which are not ready for it.

DonFck wrote:

Would've it been better to leave everything in the loving and caring hands of Milosevic? I mean, first the US supported him, then they wanted him for crimes against humanity.
i dunno what would've been better. however, what is absolutely evident, imo, is that "enlightened west" only "spreads democracy" to those, who are willing to dance to their tune. there's must be a reason for lawless zones like kosovo being created.

Last edited by Shahter (2010-12-17 05:06:02)

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FatherTed
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if you're going to make a thinly veiled US sucks thread/westerners suck thread why not just say that in the title ffs

came expecting content, got whining C-
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Turquoise
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Shahter wrote:

DonFck wrote:

Is it the fault of the Kosovo people that people in high places are corrupt and dirty?
this is what happens when you try to establish so called "democracy" in places which are not ready for it.

DonFck wrote:

Would've it been better to leave everything in the loving and caring hands of Milosevic? I mean, first the US supported him, then they wanted him for crimes against humanity.
i dunno what would've been better. however, what is absolutely evident, imo, is that "enlightened west" only "spreads democracy" to those, who are willing to dance to their tune. there's must be a reason for lawless zones like kosovo being created.
Well, we both know it's not really about democracy, but trade interests are trade interests.  Occasionally, intervention is necessary to keep things running smoothly.  NATO had no interest in letting the conflicts of Bosnia spread to the rest of the region.
11 Bravo
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well shatler usa & co did help stop the slaughter of muslims.  you prolly dont care about that.  but when i bring that up people say it was mainly nato, not the US.  so therefore.....which is it?

and this was what clinton wanted.  funny bush gets slammed for the same thing and clinton is a hero.

however i take the stance of kmarion......i never cared aboot kosovo and dont really care now.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-12-17 07:28:23)

Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|7050|Moscow, Russia

Turquoise wrote:

Shahter wrote:

DonFck wrote:

Is it the fault of the Kosovo people that people in high places are corrupt and dirty?
this is what happens when you try to establish so called "democracy" in places which are not ready for it.

DonFck wrote:

Would've it been better to leave everything in the loving and caring hands of Milosevic? I mean, first the US supported him, then they wanted him for crimes against humanity.
i dunno what would've been better. however, what is absolutely evident, imo, is that "enlightened west" only "spreads democracy" to those, who are willing to dance to their tune. there's must be a reason for lawless zones like kosovo being created.
Well, we both know it's not really about democracy, but trade interests are trade interests.  Occasionally, intervention is necessary to keep things running smoothly.  NATO had no interest in letting the conflicts of Bosnia spread to the rest of the region.
bees are starting to suspect something... (c)

FatherTed wrote:

if you're going to make a thinly veiled US sucks thread/westerners suck thread why not just say that in the title ffs
when i feel like doing that - i'll do just that, don't you worry.
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FatherTed
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please post more mystic non-sensical posts, i don't think i have eye-cancer yet.
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Shahter
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i dunno about eyes, but a lot of people here posting about usa & co acting as "world police" going aboud the globe fixing other's problems sure do sounld like they have a brain cancer.

somebody, explain to me, how does it always happen so that "democracies" you install in those places you "fix" always produce governments, that aren't simply corrupt, but organ-fucking-trafficking and record-breaking-in-heroin-production corrupt?

Last edited by Shahter (2010-12-17 23:09:17)

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cuz its better than installing a russian govt.  you know, lesser of two evils.
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m3thod
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Shahter wrote:

somebody, remind me again: what did usa & co went to kosovo for?
to stop shit like this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
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Shahter
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+295|7050|Moscow, Russia

m3thod wrote:

Shahter wrote:

somebody, remind me again: what did usa & co went to kosovo for?
to stop shit like this:  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Srebrenica_massacre
there are other places were shit like that is happening right now - why aren't jedi helping?
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Shahter
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11 Bravo wrote:

Nato

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wat?    n   a   t   o     prevents jedi from helping? O_o
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11 Bravo
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no..you asked why in one place and not another.  derp.
Shahter
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11 Bravo
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are they stopping you from helping?  why arent you?
11 Bravo
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you can facepalm all you want you fucking commie retard.  i answered everything you asked.  nato went to kosovo cuz of what method posted. usa went because they are part of nato.  simple as that.  geddit?

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