Poll

TSA Screening to see ya naked

Accept fate and proceed through body scanner22%22% - 12
Opt out for pat down26%26% - 14
Express discontent and proceed through scanner5%5% - 3
Opt out for pat down after making self hard.22%22% - 12
Leave the airport sans screening, take ship down under5%5% - 3
Other5%5% - 3
FU Brinson11%11% - 6
Total: 53
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,981|6909|949

JohnG@lt wrote:

Yeah no thanks. Where I am coming from, the reason for my trip, and my occupation are my own business and not the governments. Fuck that noise.
Haha have you ever left the country (not counting Armed Service)?  It's pretty standard.  Learn to accept it or have fun trouncing around the US.
ROGUEDD
BF2s. A Liberal Gang of Faggots.
+452|5666|Fuck this.
You could at least buy me dinner first, buddy.
Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6952|Canberra, AUS

JohnG@lt wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


So for a plane carrying 200 passengers, it would take 33-50 hours to clear them all. Makes sense, I'm down.
Hmmm, I didn't read the link in kmars post. What I was explaining is what El Al Airlines does over and above standard Israeli security.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al#Security

Passengers are asked to report three hours before departure. All El Al terminals around the world are closely monitored for security. There are plain-clothes agents and fully armed police or military personnel who patrol the premises for explosives, suspicious behavior, and other threats. Inside the terminal, passengers and their baggage are checked by a trained team. El Al security procedures require that all passengers be interviewed individually prior to boarding, allowing El Al staff to identify possible security threats. Passengers will be asked questions about where they are coming from, the reason for their trip, their job or occupation, and whether they have packed their bags themselves. The likelihood of potential terrorists remaining calm under such questioning is believed to be low (see microexpression).[38]

At the check-in counter, passengers' passports and tickets are closely examined. A ticket without a sticker from the security checkers will not be accepted. At passport control passengers' names are checked against information from the FBI, Canadian Security Intelligence Service (CSIS), Scotland Yard, Shin Bet, and Interpol databases. Luggage is screened and sometimes hand searched. In addition, bags are put through a decompression chamber simulating pressures during flight that could trigger explosives.[39] El Al is the only airline in the world that passes all luggage through such a chamber.[40] Even at overseas airports, El Al security agents conduct all luggage searches personally, even if they are supervised by government or private security firms.
Yeah no thanks. Where I am coming from, the reason for my trip, and my occupation are my own business and not the governments. Fuck that noise.

They can scan my luggage and search if they have suspicion, but I also don't want some minimum wage flunky pawing through my things.
Umm... on basically every international flight I've ever had I've had to disclose at least once the reason for my trip and my occupation.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
TheDonkey
Eat my bearrrrrrrrrrr, Tonighttt
+163|5994|Vancouver, BC, Canada

Spark wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

DrunkFace wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

So for a plane carrying 200 passengers, it would take 33-50 hours to clear them all. Makes sense, I'm down.
Hmmm, I didn't read the link in kmars post. What I was explaining is what El Al Airlines does over and above standard Israeli security.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/El_Al#Security


Yeah no thanks. Where I am coming from, the reason for my trip, and my occupation are my own business and not the governments. Fuck that noise.

They can scan my luggage and search if they have suspicion, but I also don't want some minimum wage flunky pawing through my things.
Umm... on basically every international flight I've ever had I've had to disclose at least once the reason for my trip and my occupation.
Not even flights. Going from Canada to the US in a car (a pretty damn basic/easy/"low-risk") border crossing, you're asked where you're from and where you're going.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5635|London, England

TheDonkey wrote:

Spark wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


Yeah no thanks. Where I am coming from, the reason for my trip, and my occupation are my own business and not the governments. Fuck that noise.

They can scan my luggage and search if they have suspicion, but I also don't want some minimum wage flunky pawing through my things.
Umm... on basically every international flight I've ever had I've had to disclose at least once the reason for my trip and my occupation.
Not even flights. Going from Canada to the US in a car (a pretty damn basic/easy/"low-risk") border crossing, you're asked where you're from and where you're going.
International is one thing, domestic is entirely different.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6952|Canberra, AUS

JohnG@lt wrote:

TheDonkey wrote:

Spark wrote:


Umm... on basically every international flight I've ever had I've had to disclose at least once the reason for my trip and my occupation.
Not even flights. Going from Canada to the US in a car (a pretty damn basic/easy/"low-risk") border crossing, you're asked where you're from and where you're going.
International is one thing, domestic is entirely different.
Ah. Should've told us so
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,816|6383|eXtreme to the maX
Do I need to point out at this point that the 9/11 attacks all used domestic flights?
The ones which weren't cruise missiles at least.
Fuck Israel
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6878|132 and Bush

O dear god
Xbone Stormsurgezz
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6927

Kmar wrote:

O dear god
I think he's joking.
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,742|7014|Cinncinatti
you mean trolling
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5514|Cleveland, Ohio

RTHKI wrote:

you mean trolling
jord
Member
+2,382|6955|The North, beyond the wall.
I have a small penis and thus care.
Karbin
Member
+42|6572
The whole point is to make a pat-down so uncomfortable, that you will use the scanner.
The scanner is, from TSA's point, faster and better.

Just another way to "herd the masses"
https://sphotos.ak.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ak-ash2/hs570.ash2/149203_1726817055375_1386887974_31861075_8350700_n.jpg
get fisted on yer way home for the holidays..

Replace the "S" in TSA to an "&"

"I'm sorry, sir. Say's here you're on the no-fly Craigslist. I'm gonna have to ask that you accompany me to the dick-pic area and disrobe from the areola down."
RTHKI
mmmf mmmf mmmf
+1,742|7014|Cinncinatti
[]funny
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5635|London, England
TSA strip searching a chld.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6408|North Tonawanda, NY

Turquoise wrote:

It's not bullshit.  Shit happens.  All that matters is how you react to it.  I'm not really sure why we're arguing when we both agree that the TSA is overkill.
Turquoise, you use that 'it will happen again' reasoning as though it justifies something.  You can't prove there won't be another attack...so that does not imply that there will be one.  This is obviously faulty reasoning.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6682|North Carolina

SenorToenails wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

It's not bullshit.  Shit happens.  All that matters is how you react to it.  I'm not really sure why we're arguing when we both agree that the TSA is overkill.
Turquoise, you use that 'it will happen again' reasoning as though it justifies something.  You can't prove there won't be another attack...so that does not imply that there will be one.  This is obviously faulty reasoning.
How many times do I have to post it?  Statistically, it will happen again -- it's very unlikely for something like 9/11 to occur again, but hijackings occur at a fairly periodic rate.  Considering the number of flights that occur annually and the variance in quality of security by airport, it's inevitable that more hijackings will occur.

Again, we seem to agree that the current security measures are overboard.  I'm not really sure why you're disagreeing with me that more hijackings will occur in the future.  It's not faulty reasoning if there is a historical record for it.

The only faulty reasoning in this discussion involves most of the defenses for the current security measures.  It's perfectly logical to expect more hijackings to inevitably occur over time.
CC-Marley
Member
+407|7106
I guess some people could buy these. http://www.denverpost.com/nationworld/ci_16676098
Personally I do not fly much anyway. So I have no problem getting scanned. I do agree this has gone a bit too far. If I ever do get picked out for the "pat down" I hope she's kinda hot...
jord
Member
+2,382|6955|The North, beyond the wall.
Why would you want her to be hot, you don't wanna be walking around an airport nursing a stonker.

My main apprehension at my medical was that id get a boner if the nurse was hot. She was scottish and thus not, phew.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6973|NJ
The guy who's selling those machines was once a TSA director and there are more than a few senators that had stock in Rapiscan before the government contract was signed and accellerated. What's wrong with bomb sniffing dogs?

Simple though, you have a problem with it don't fly. You hurt the pockets of the airlines and they'll do away with it.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5635|London, England

JohnG@lt wrote:

TSA strip searching a chld.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XSQTz1bccL4
Before the video started the boy went through a metal detector and didn't set it off but was selected for a pat down. The boy was shy so the TSA couldn't complete the full pat on the young boy. The father tried several times to just hold the boys arms out for the TSA agent but i guess it didn't end up being enough for the guy. I was about 30 ft away so i couldn't hear their conversation if there was any. The enraged father pulled his son shirt off and gave it to the TSA agent to search, thats when this video begins.
(2:16:39 PM):     After I finished videotaping the incident I went through the check point myself. I collected my things and went over to talk to the father and son. Before I could get to them a man in a black suit who had been talking with the other TSA officials approached me. He asked to speak to me and I obliged, wondering what was to come. He then proceeded to interrogate me about why I was videotaping the "procedures of the TSA". I told him that I had never seen such practices before on a young child and decided to record it. The man being frustrated at this point demanded to know my plans with the video, of which I didn't respond. Repeatedly he asked me to delete the video, hoping his mere presence could intimidate me to obey, but I refused. By this point it became obvious that he felt TSA had done something wrong and that I caught it on tape. After the interview, I left for my gate. I called my brother who told me I should put the tape on YouTube because this had been a recent hot topic in the news.
The comment by the youtube video poster.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6859|SE London

Sure, it'll save a few lives, but millions will be late!
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6973|NJ

Bertster7 wrote:

Sure, it'll save a few lives, but millions will be late!
It's useless, it's not going to save any lives. For frequent flyers it will actually give them a higher risk of cancer.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6682|North Carolina

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

Sure, it'll save a few lives, but millions will be late!
It's useless, it's not going to save any lives. For frequent flyers it will actually give them a higher risk of cancer.
Well, cancer is really one of the lesser worries about scanners.  Tanning booths are much more likely to give you cancer than one of these scanners -- even if you're a frequent flyer.

There's even evidence to suggest that cell phones pose a greater risk for cancer than these scanners.

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