11 Bravo
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macbeth got owned
EVieira
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The USAID program she was responsible for had a 150 million dollar budget to do allot of things which would strengthen US influence and relationship with local leadership and populace.

It is NOT in the Talibans best interests to let US influence any part of Afghanistan. They will kill as many aid workers as they can, men or women.

War isn't pretty. While its sad that she died, she knew she was going into a warzone and that there were bad people who didn't want her there.

Last edited by EVieira (2010-10-11 05:23:11)

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rdx-fx wrote:

If you're talking Soviet era, their Spetznaz Uberbadasses apparently had a standing policy to save a bullet for themselves rather than face the torture, brutality, and cruelty of the Mujahadeen.
They had a pretty horrible method of dealing with downed pilots. They'd peg them out on the ground, put a slit in their stomachs, and then their guts would essentially pop out and cook in the heat. Seems they had a thing for skinning as well.
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Oops.
UK aid worker may have been killed by rescuers' grenade
British aid worker Linda Norgrove may have been accidentally killed by US forces during a rescue mission in Afghanistan, David Cameron has said.

International forces there originally said the 36-year-old died on Friday when one of her captors detonated a suicide vest.

But the prime minister said new details had come to light suggesting her death may have resulted from a US grenade.

He said he had spoken to her family about the "deeply distressing" news.

Mr Cameron said he was told of the new developments in a phone call from Gen David Petraeus, the top US commander in Afghanistan, on Monday morning.

He said the general told him US forces were deeply dismayed at the outcome and said it was "deeply regrettable" that information published on Saturday about Ms Norgrove was highly likely to have been incorrect.

BBC diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall said the latest developments would raise questions over UK and US relations and the possibility there was an attempt to cover up the circumstances of Ms Norgrove's death.
.....

Three local staff were also kidnapped alongside Ms Norgrove when the two cars they were travelling in were ambushed. The staff were released unharmed last week.

The Briton, who was employed by US aid group DAI, is believed to have been taken by her captors from village to village as British, Afghan and other intelligence agencies searched the remote area.

It was reported that tribal elders negotiating her release asked Nato not to intervene so they had more time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2010-10-11 06:39:20)

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Dilbert_X wrote:

Oops.
UK aid worker may have been killed by rescuers' grenade
British aid worker Linda Norgrove may have been accidentally killed by US forces during a rescue mission in Afghanistan, David Cameron has said.

International forces there originally said the 36-year-old died on Friday when one of her captors detonated a suicide vest.

But the prime minister said new details had come to light suggesting her death may have resulted from a US grenade.

He said he had spoken to her family about the "deeply distressing" news.

Mr Cameron said he was told of the new developments in a phone call from Gen David Petraeus, the top US commander in Afghanistan, on Monday morning.

He said the general told him US forces were deeply dismayed at the outcome and said it was "deeply regrettable" that information published on Saturday about Ms Norgrove was highly likely to have been incorrect.

BBC diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall said the latest developments would raise questions over UK and US relations and the possibility there was an attempt to cover up the circumstances of Ms Norgrove's death.
.....

Three local staff were also kidnapped alongside Ms Norgrove when the two cars they were travelling in were ambushed. The staff were released unharmed last week.

The Briton, who was employed by US aid group DAI, is believed to have been taken by her captors from village to village as British, Afghan and other intelligence agencies searched the remote area.

It was reported that tribal elders negotiating her release asked Nato not to intervene so they had more time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210
Heard this side of the story this morning... Who uses a grenade in a rescue mission?
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Last edited by Chou (2010-10-11 06:41:53)

jord
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Chou wrote:

What?
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Oops.
But the prime minister said new details had come to light suggesting her death may have resulted from a US grenade.
11 Bravo
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id rather be killed by a nade than have my head chopped off...

but dilbert is an expert at everything everywhere
Lotta_Drool
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jord wrote:

Chou wrote:

What?
I think he said " "

She bought her ticket, She took her chances.  I say let her die!

Maybe if we just isolate this part of the world they would go back to fucking rocks or whatever it was they were doing before we gave them access to the 21st century.
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The BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul said tribal elders negotiating her release had asked Nato not to intervene, to insure they had more time to secure a release.

And an Afghan intelligence official told the BBC the US had ignored local police and intelligence recommendations supporting this course of action.
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11 Bravo
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Beduin wrote:

The BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul said tribal elders negotiating her release had asked Nato not to intervene, to insure they had more time to secure a release.

And an Afghan intelligence official told the BBC the US had ignored local police and intelligence recommendations supporting this course of action.
all those words make me lol

its the us fault lol
11 Bravo
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ya its our fault arabs cant behave themselves
Turquoise
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11 Bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:

The BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul said tribal elders negotiating her release had asked Nato not to intervene, to insure they had more time to secure a release.

And an Afghan intelligence official told the BBC the US had ignored local police and intelligence recommendations supporting this course of action.
all those words make me lol

its the us fault lol
I don't think he was suggesting that.  He's simply pointing out that we probably should've tried a different approach.
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Beduin wrote:

The BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul said tribal elders negotiating her release had asked Nato not to intervene, to insure they had more time to secure a release.

And an Afghan intelligence official told the BBC the US had ignored local police and intelligence recommendations supporting this course of action.
ok dude, whats the point of this?  what are you are trying to get across.  Its the fault of the us military that they pissed off her kidnappers enough so they would kill her?  are you actually making that argument?
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eleven bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:

The BBC's Bilal Sarwary in Kabul said tribal elders negotiating her release had asked Nato not to intervene, to insure they had more time to secure a release.

And an Afghan intelligence official told the BBC the US had ignored local police and intelligence recommendations supporting this course of action.
ok dude, whats the point of this?  what are you are trying to get across.  Its the fault of the us military that they pissed off her kidnappers enough so they would kill her?  are you actually making that argument?
turq..read
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presidentsheep wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Oops.
UK aid worker may have been killed by rescuers' grenade
British aid worker Linda Norgrove may have been accidentally killed by US forces during a rescue mission in Afghanistan, David Cameron has said.

International forces there originally said the 36-year-old died on Friday when one of her captors detonated a suicide vest.

But the prime minister said new details had come to light suggesting her death may have resulted from a US grenade.

He said he had spoken to her family about the "deeply distressing" news.

Mr Cameron said he was told of the new developments in a phone call from Gen David Petraeus, the top US commander in Afghanistan, on Monday morning.

He said the general told him US forces were deeply dismayed at the outcome and said it was "deeply regrettable" that information published on Saturday about Ms Norgrove was highly likely to have been incorrect.

BBC diplomatic correspondent Bridget Kendall said the latest developments would raise questions over UK and US relations and the possibility there was an attempt to cover up the circumstances of Ms Norgrove's death.
.....

Three local staff were also kidnapped alongside Ms Norgrove when the two cars they were travelling in were ambushed. The staff were released unharmed last week.

The Briton, who was employed by US aid group DAI, is believed to have been taken by her captors from village to village as British, Afghan and other intelligence agencies searched the remote area.

It was reported that tribal elders negotiating her release asked Nato not to intervene so they had more time.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-11514210
Heard this side of the story this morning... Who uses a grenade in a rescue mission?
how many fucking rescue missions have you done?
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11 Bravo
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so many retards
Turquoise
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11 Bravo wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:


ok dude, whats the point of this?  what are you are trying to get across.  Its the fault of the us military that they pissed off her kidnappers enough so they would kill her?  are you actually making that argument?
turq..read
Is it possible for you guys to understand the difference between constructive criticism and just trolling?

It's a valid point to emphasize that our forces may have disregarded sound advice that may have kept her from getting killed.

I don't think this is about blame.  Cool the emotions for once and try to be logical about this.
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11 Bravo wrote:

so many retards
its americas fault that a kitten died somewhere today.
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Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:


ok dude, whats the point of this?  what are you are trying to get across.  Its the fault of the us military that they pissed off her kidnappers enough so they would kill her?  are you actually making that argument?
turq..read
Is it possible for you guys to understand the difference between constructive criticism and just trolling?

It's a valid point to emphasize that our forces may have disregarded sound advice that may have kept her from getting killed.

I don't think this is about blame.  Cool the emotions for once and try to be logical about this.
i am logical.....i know resue missions...and i know how fucking wrong the media is about them.....and how full of shit the afghans are
Turquoise
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11 Bravo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


turq..read
Is it possible for you guys to understand the difference between constructive criticism and just trolling?

It's a valid point to emphasize that our forces may have disregarded sound advice that may have kept her from getting killed.

I don't think this is about blame.  Cool the emotions for once and try to be logical about this.
i am logical.....i know resue missions...and i know how fucking wrong the media is about them.....and how full of shit the afghans are
You should know by now that I'm no fan of Afghanistan.  If it was my choice, we'd already be out of there.  Still, I think it's probably a good idea to examine this mission and figure out what could be done better to prevent hostages from getting killed.

If it turns out that one of our grenades actually killed this woman, then it's probably a good idea to figure out how to minimize the chances of this happening again.

Maybe the story is full of shit.  I wouldn't know, but I can at least attempt to figure more out by doing some research.  Beduin is just posting a story about this situation.  I don't see how that should automatically deserve an overreaction in response.
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cuz thats all he does as GS pointed out.  never see him in a thread (in this section) not aboot muslims or arabs do you?  nope.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-10-11 08:04:50)

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lol.. get off my dick bitches
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turq I am 110% convinced you have absolutely no opinions of your own and you just parrot popular sentiment.
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