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LaidBackNinja wrote:

jord wrote:

LaidBackNinja wrote:

1) The "assailant" is unarmed, in which case you drive off if possible or lock your doors if not possible.

2) The assailant is armed, in which case you pull out your gun and he shoots you because he already had his gun ready.

Why would you drive off if you have the upper hand..?

2 is a case by case basis, perhaps he's only got an imitation firearm, perhaps he hasn't made ready, perhaps he hasn't taken care of his firearm, perhaps he doesn't really have it in him to actually shoot someone, perhaps perhaps perhaps. We can do a thousand hypotheticals but at the end of the day there's no negatives to legally carrying a pistol and many possible positives.

1) Why wouldn't you drive off? What could you possibly gain by confronting the punk trying to steal your car? Do you intend to counter-rob him? Or make a citizen's arrest, perhaps? He'd just run away.

2) The negative is obviously that if he could panic and shoot you if you pull out a firearm. Also: accidents. Every person on here will claim to be an expert and that they are always safe blabla. I know for a fact, however, that pistols especially are dangerous and many accidents happen with them.

Edit:
I just wanted to make clear that I am not a hippie or anything. I'm in the military and am intimately familiar with firearms, but it just seems wildly inappropriate to me to drive around with a loaded pistol wedged between the seats or stuck in the cup holder for easy reach. I put my cups in my cup holder. Maybe it's just because I'm a European that I think this level of preparedness is exaggerated. Maybe if I'd live in the US I'd do the same thing, but just thinking about what I know over here it just seems ridiculous to drive around with a pistol on your lap or in the cup holder.
My comment on the safety of pistols is based on experiences in the military, mostly with Glocks, which are, IMHO, accidents waiting to happen.

Last edited by jord (2010-09-30 08:45:15)

eleven bravo wrote:

I really hope your impression of this country doesnt come from your time posting on bf2s jordy.  it sounds like it does.

Ilocano wrote:

Pistols in general.  No matter how careful or experienced you are, it too easy to shoot yourself with and for kids to wield.  Which is why I will never own one.  Rifles are far more safer to handle and inventory.

Jord, which is why you learn martial arts and/or street fighting techniques.  Arnis and eskrima in my case, with a bit of Shotokan.

eleven bravo wrote:

not a lot of people are armed jordan

eleven bravo wrote:

from my own personal experience i would have to say that is an incorrect assumption

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

you gave the cashier a fist bump after the remark? LOLOL

mtb0minime wrote:

I don't understand why anyone without arms would want to pick a fight with someone who did have arms. I mean, how could they steal your shit if they couldn't even carry it? And if you trip them, they're done for!

LaidBackNinja wrote:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Have and not need, rather than need and not have. 
Pistols aren't dangerous, the dumb ass using it is.
Cup holder is on the right side, I'm right handed.  A gun does you fuck all good if you can't easily access it.

1) Have and not need, rather than...  this saying does not always apply, such as in instances where "having" an item has significant downsides. Aside from that, if you follow that logic you'd need to carry pretty much everything with you (fire extinguishers, first aid kits, surgical knife, kevlar vest, etc etc.)

2) Pistols are dangerous. One needs to be an expert to handle them safely, and even then, accidents can happen. If an object is dangerous in the hands of the average person, I call that object dangerous. I do not trust the average person to handle a pistol safely. A rifle is, while much deadlier, also a lot less dangerous.

3) So you drive around with your first aid kit sitting open on the dash and your fire extinguisher between your legs?

LaidBackNinja wrote:

1) Why wouldn't you drive off? What could you possibly gain by confronting the punk trying to steal your car? Do you intend to counter-rob him? Or make a citizen's arrest, perhaps? He'd just run away.

eleven bravo wrote:

not a lot of people are armed jordan