BF2S Forums Palin Edging to 2012 Run, Says She's Willing to 'Give It a Shot'

perhaps, just perhaps you should listen to her rather than someone speaking of her. I only wish we had been able to do that with obama. Better yet read the book ? Wont hurt you.

what did McCain say?

Candidate McCain wrote:

The fundamentals of the economy are strong

right before he suspended his campaign to go back to Washington.

Republicans suck, Democrats suck, and together, they will suck the life out of this nation . . .

Harmor wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

...However, it's kind of hard to believe someone with as dimwitted of a demeanor as Palin would actually be intelligent enough to understand the complexities of economic policy....

And Obama is doing a grand job with the economy.  At least she's for making the Bush tax cuts permanent, which I can't say our President is for.

She doesn't have the pedigree like Professor Obama I grant you, but at least you believe what she says because she means it.

But I'm not going to change our mind about her so we'll agree to enjoy SNL skits with her :-)

Well, for the record, I subscribe to neither Krugman's view nor Palin's.

Harmor wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

...However, it's kind of hard to believe someone with as dimwitted of a demeanor as Palin would actually be intelligent enough to understand the complexities of economic policy....

And Obama is doing a grand job with the economy.  At least she's for making the Bush tax cuts permanent, which I can't say our President is for.

She doesn't have the pedigree like Professor Obama I grant you, but at least you believe what she says because she means it.

But I'm not going to change our mind about her so we'll agree to enjoy SNL skits with her :-)

Personally, I'm all for tax increases. Seriously. I've thought about this for a while, and whilst I don't like paying taxes, it seems really obvious when you actually visit places that differ to what you're accustomed to. The UK is a fucking shithole, whereas if you visit places like Norway, Sweden, Denmark and the Netherlands, which have much higher taxes, they seem really nice and organised in comparison. I've come to the conclusion that I'd much rather live in a decent country and have less spending money than live in an utter shithole and have more money.

EDIT: I'm going to turn this into an entire topic I think.

Last edited by ghettoperson (2010-10-01 18:37:06)

The UK is a fucking shithole,

You will be happy to know we are following in the U.K.'s footsteps then !

if you visit places like Norway, Sweden, Denmark which have much higher taxes, they seem really nice and organised

Do Norwegians Swedes and Danes live there ? We have all sorts of people living here. It is also safe to say, there are places we could let Americans drive at autoban (sp) speeds but with some what different results than they have in Germany.

     When you let the government take more of your money, your basically letting them spend it for you, They buy your Art, Heath Care, decide on and provide the transportation you need. Basically you'd trade the cost, responsibility and freedom of making your own decisions for the convenience of having the government provide them at a cheaper price, Am I correct ? Do you pay taxes yet ? If so what percentage of your salary does the government take ? The U.S.A. isn't a total " shithole " yet. Just the places where the Government has intervened to manage peoples affairs for them.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-10-01 18:59:46)

rdx-fx wrote:

Amateur Hour at the White House is officially over in 2012.

The man-child we have in charge is currently doing Amateur Hour...

rdx-fx wrote:

Fuck this.  We're done having the dumbest, least competent leadership on the planet.

Palin couldn't do any worst than Professor Obama.  Running up the debt and attacking prosparity is all he's doing.  So lets get used to the higher taxes coming January 1st, 2011 and the so called recovery we been having for the last year.

No offence, but Palin would be the death of America's credibility in my eyes.

rdx-fx wrote:

Palin is a nogo, if for no other reason than the left 40% of the population has already put her in a neatly labeled box and filed her away.
She has been packaged, labeled, and dismissed by too large a chunk of the population to be electable.

There is no more thinking or discussion about her from the left.
Neatly labeled, stereotyped, packaged, and dismissed.
Like a box of last years paperwork. Palin - (File under: MILF, GOP, donchaknow, clueless, talking head)

Once your opponents in D.C. have pre-packaged you in a neat, tidy, well defined stereotype, you're done.  Unless you have another (better) spin-doctor give you another 'package' to wear, you're through in D.C.

sounds like the way the right placed obama before he was even inaugurated

One thing about Obama's experience...he was a little more than a year in the Senate when he announced he would be President (no accomplishments in the Senate...can you name one?), and was a notably a Community Organizer before that.

Anyhow, that's all water under the bridge now.

I can not refute that Palin, as you guys noted, has high negatives that would be difficult or near impossible to reduce because of her treatment.  So I did some researched and pull up this CNN poll: that matched known Republicans to Obama back in April:

CNN wrote:

The poll shows Obama topping Romney 53 percent to 45 percent, beating Huckabee 54 percent to 45 percent, defeating Gingrich 55 percent to 43 percent and topping Palin 55 percent to 42.

"It is important to remember that at this stage of the game, candidate matchups are largely driven by name recognition, and at least a quarter of all Americans are unfamiliar with Romney, Huckabee and Gingrich. As a result, Obama has an 8- to-12-point edge over each of them in hypothetical matchups," adds Holland.

So ANY Republican would loose to Obama, even with his ~42% approval rating.  The poll continues with:

CNN wrote:

"But in a previous CNN poll, Obama managed no better than a tie against an unnamed Republican."

which is telling me that the Public is itching for another candidate they don't know yet or hasn't made themselves known on the national stage - this is encouraging (perhaps a Tea Party Candidate???).


Therefore while I believe Sarah Palin has her heart and Conservative values in the right place she should play cheeerleader to someone new in the party.  How's that for a revelation?

FatherTed wrote:

high negatives? the womans a fucking retard

She's doing a lot better than you. 

So how long before this thread gets locked because this `debate` is becoming a flame hate fest against Sarah Palin?

rdx-fx wrote:

Palin 2012?

Fuck off, go away, and NO! 

Amateur Hour at the White House is officially over in 2012. 

Republicans got their boy Junior, Democrats got Rev. Dr. Hopey-Changey and the Wingnut Allstars Band

It's someone else's turn to elect a paste-eating window-licker for the rest of the world to point and laugh at.
Russia gets a KGB badass & PR master, France gets a supermodel for 'first lady', and even the Ukraine gets a semi-hot woman for PM.

Fuck this.  We're done having the dumbest, least competent leadership on the planet.
We get to elect someone competent in 2012 (not Palin), and then we can all go back to laughing at the UK;
'The touching story of Dumbo the Boy-Prince and his faithful Horse:  The Charles and Camilla story' next on BBC-1

I'm not entirely sure what the UK and the royal family have to do with anything, but haven't you worked it out yet?

I'll enlighten you...

The inherent trait of having a massive population that is largely uneducated with regards to politics and logic means you lack the ability to democractically elect anything but a mediocre and below leader. The sooner you realise that for at least the next 20 years you aren't going to have anyone competent in the White house the less of a shock it will be.

The best Palin can/should hope for is a Cabinet job in the next Republican administration, to prove that she's not the caricature she's been made out to be. Much like Hillary has done, though she's had less of a challenge on the caricature side.

The beauty of that is that Sarah can be sent packing back to salmonland if she's as incompetent as her detractors make her out to be, and if not, it's a great way to publicly prove them all wrong. Just don't give her one of the big jobs (like State) at first.

She can speak much better than obama. obama with no TelePrompter is the definition of the would " Disabled ".
I hope your not falling into a herd mentally.

Delicious irony.