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Well, yes. Depends on how we define culture.
But by reading what you guys wrote, does that mean that all Christians have the same culture? All muslims have the same culture?
All the followers of one religion have one culture?

I used to attend every week.
But then the Youth Minister left the church (he was like a second father to me) and since then I havent returned except for christmas/easter.
I consider myself a christian scientist.

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Beduin wrote:

Well, yes. Depends on how we define culture.
But by reading what you guys wrote, does that mean that all Christians have the same culture? All muslims have the same culture?
All the followers of one religion have one culture?

All I was saying is that religion is based on culture. For Christianity it's Jewish and for Islam its Arabic, there's no real way of denying this.

That doesn't mean everyone that follows the religions have the same culture. Obviously there's more to life and culture than religion, although religion can have a very big role in it and it varies depending on where you live, it's still ultimately only a part of the picture.

Now that we've established that, all I was asking was how do (specifically religious people) feel to have this key piece of their life to be based on something foreign. This is also why I said this doesn't even concern you, you're an Arab following a religion created by Arabs, so there's not much to think about in terms of the identity of Islam vs the identity of what you are. It's relatively easy for you. It all fits together. It's a question for those who follow religions that aren't really connected to who they are. Like I was saying, any European reading the Bible will quickly realise that this is something that has come from far far away from completely different people. Likewise for non-Arab Muslims.

Someone answered that they never really thought about it. That's all I was wondering in the first place.

Macbeth wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Well, yes. Depends on how we define culture.
But by reading what you guys wrote, does that mean that all Christians have the same culture? All muslims have the same culture?
All the followers of one religion have one culture?

All I was saying is that religion is based on culture. For Christianity it's Jewish and for Islam its Arabic,

Christianity is just resentment of Romans.

It's clearly based on Judaism and further down the line from that, Middle Eastern traditions/religions and such. It's an Abrahamic religion. It's completely different to the indigenous European religions.

Here's a list of the European religions and the article is of how they developed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo … evelopment

Here's a list of what the Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) are based upon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_ … _Near_East

Or more specifically, this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Semitic_religion



Religious history is an interesting thing (as long as you look at it, outside the perspective of the religion in question, so don't use a Bible for the history of Christianity), more often than not it can answer any questions about a religion by flicking through its history.

Mekstizzle wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

All I was saying is that religion is based on culture. For Christianity it's Jewish and for Islam its Arabic,

Christianity is just resentment of Romans.

It's clearly based on Judaism and further down the line from that, Middle Eastern traditions/religions and such. It's an Abrahamic religion. It's completely different to the indigenous European religions.

Here's a list of the European religions and the article is of how they developed:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Proto-Indo … evelopment

Here's a list of what the Abrahamic religions (Christianity, Judaism, Islam) are based upon:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Religions_ … _Near_East

Or more specifically, this:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ancient_Semitic_religion



Religious history is an interesting thing (as long as you look at it, outside the perspective of the religion in question, so don't use a Bible for the history of Christianity), more often than not it can answer any questions about a religion by flicking through its history.

In his book, The Antichrist, Nietzsche sets out to denounce and illegitimize not only Christianity itself as a belief and a practice, but also the ethical-moral value system which modern western civilization has inherited from it. This book can be considered a further development of some of his ideas concerning Christianity that can be found in Beyond Good and Evil and in The Genealogy of Morals, particularly the idea that the present morality is an inversion of true, noble morality. An understanding of the main ideas in the latter works are therefore quite helpful in understanding and fully appreciating the ideas set forth in The Antichrist. One of the most important of these ideas is that Christianity has made people nihilistic and weak by regarding pity and related sentiments as the highest virtues. Here, just as in the Genealogy, Nietzsche traces the origin of these values to the ancient Jews who lived under Roman occupation, but here he puts them in terms of a reversal of their conception of God. He argues that the Jewish God was once one which embodied the noble virtues of a proud, powerful people, but when they became subjugated by the Romans, their God began to embody the "virtues" (more like sentiments) of an oppressed, resentful people, until it became something entirely alien to what it formerly had been.

http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/ … hrist.html
It's an interesting read. Try
http://plato.stanford.edu/entries/nietzsche/
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Mekstizzle wrote:

All I was saying is that religion is based on culture.....

That doesn't mean everyone that follows the religions have the same culture.

For me religion is out of the equation. People will always have their own culture with or without religion.
We can talk about common practises, as praying 5 times a day or fasting ramadan, but those are religious practises, not culture.

Beduin wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

All I was saying is that religion is based on culture.....

That doesn't mean everyone that follows the religions have the same culture.

For me religion is out of the equation. People will always have their own culture with or without religion.
We can talk about common practises, as praying 5 times a day or fasting ramadan, but those are religious practises, not culture.

Islam is a reflection of the culture.

eleven bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

All I was saying is that religion is based on culture.....

That doesn't mean everyone that follows the religions have the same culture.

For me religion is out of the equation. People will always have their own culture with or without religion.
We can talk about common practises, as praying 5 times a day or fasting ramadan, but those are religious practises, not culture.

Islam is a reflection of the culture.

Islamic culture is a reflection of Islam.

well..we all assume this isnt the matrix, pretty big assumption