Poll

Who attends church regularly? Or tries to.

i do10%10% - 14
i dont, but im christian29%29% - 40
i dont, im not christian60%60% - 83
Total: 137
eleven bravo
Member
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its a molestation factory
Tu Stultus Es
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5727|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Uzique wrote:

k lets do some logic

10,000 reported and confirmed cases.

worldwide perception of the catholic church as a corrupt financial institution full of ex-nazis and pederasts = numbers dont matter

but hey, it's your religion, not mine. so i dunno why you're 'criticising' me.
catholicism is not responsible for a few bad apples.  99% of priests you'll meet are loving people who just want to help people find their faith/make the world a better place.
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6741

HaiBai wrote:

99% of priests you'll meet are loving people who just want to help people
like a rancher helping sheep over a fence . . .
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5481|Cleveland, Ohio

eleven bravo wrote:

its a molestation factory
Hunter/Jumper
Member
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SenorToenails wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

Uzique wrote:

10,000 cases of pederasty and clerical sex abuse since 1950 in the American catholic church

is that enough examples of religion 'fucking people'?

retard
lol gtfo.  if every single person in the world believed in catholicism, rape, crime, and murder would all drive down dramatically.

and i mean actually catholic, not the 'catholics' that go to church only for christmas.
'actual Catholics' have perpetrated some terrible crimes throughout history...that argument is pretty crap.
If they " perpetrated some terrible crimes " they would not be practicing Catholicism. And they would Go to Hell if what they believe is true. They sure as heck would pass up the 73 virgins .

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-15 05:04:39)

Hunter/Jumper
Member
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Xxxxi wrote:

Uzique wrote:

yep. the catholic church also has known holocaust deniers approved by ratzinger as bishops... and not excommunicated.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Wi … 8bishop%29

they cover up shit and their clerical structure is full of fuckups. plain and simple.
wait, you mean there's corrupt members in the ( ADD ANY ORGANIZATION HERE ) ?  oh my god i had no idea!
Broad and sweeping generalizations. Perpetrated by the Sensationalist Hype Media You all swear You don't listen to and have no regard for? Interesting. I have seen 1 or 2 examples listed but the Numbers being cast about are not consistent in ratio,
I wouldn't be surprised if priests had a higher % of Homosexuals  back when Homosexuality* was not widely accepted because it would seem a natural calling for some one who had no use for female companionship.  But it doesn't go much farther than that I'd bet.

Which leads back to the Driving Force behind this whole Story !

* This would make them Very Senior members now and no doubt sympathetic towards members who are confused sexually. Would it not ?
Hunter/Jumper
Member
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11 Bravo wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

its a molestation factory
well like you said Prove it !
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6598

SenorToenails wrote:

Except they did cover things up.  I think some people made the allegations directly to the church, who facilitated pay-offs in ]

wrote:

I think some people made the allegations directly to the church,
Then they are stupid.

wrote:

who facilitated pay-offs
THEY TOOK MONEY ? Then they willingly pimped their children for money.

If someone ever touched my Kid they would be willingly seeking the safety and comfort of a jail cell.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-15 05:33:23)

SamTheMan
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+341|5385|Stoke, England

SamTheMan wrote:

the priest who baptised me was done for child molesting a few years back
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6741

on a world-wide forum, with countless different religions, bf2s chooses to spend 15 pages posting about catholicism.

good game.
Mutantbear
Semi Constructive Criticism
+1,431|6208|London, England

Or we could spend 15 one page threads on different religions

I smell a good spam topic
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m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6915|UK
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eleven bravo
Member
+1,399|5503|foggy bottom
continent of peace
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Wreckognize
Member
+294|6729
A priest, a rapist, and a pedophile walk into a bar...


Spoiler (highlight to read):
He shuts the door behind himself, and orders a drink.
SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6374|North Tonawanda, NY

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Except they did cover things up.  I think some people made the allegations directly to the church, who facilitated pay-offs in ]

wrote:

I think some people made the allegations directly to the church,
Then they are stupid.

wrote:

who facilitated pay-offs
THEY TOOK MONEY ? Then they willingly pimped their children for money.

If someone ever touched my Kid they would be willingly seeking the safety and comfort of a jail cell.
Now, if only you'd read my whole post.

but also got a pass from the police and prosecutors who ignored reports from his victims
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5481|Cleveland, Ohio

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

its a molestation factory
well like you said Prove it !
why?  if he can make claims with no proof then so can we
Hunter/Jumper
Member
+117|6598

11 Bravo wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

well like you said Prove it !
why?  if he can make claims with no proof then so can we
He isn't slandering someones reputation, You are, So the burden of proof is yours. Correct ?
It doesn't reinforce your argument and becomes just your opinion which tho valued may not sway as many people.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-15 11:27:29)

Hunter/Jumper
Member
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SenorToenails wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

SenorToenails wrote:

Except they did cover things up.  I think some people made the allegations directly to the church, who facilitated pay-offs in ]

wrote:

I think some people made the allegations directly to the church,
Then they are stupid.

wrote:

who facilitated pay-offs
THEY TOOK MONEY ? Then they willingly pimped their children for money.

If someone ever touched my Kid they would be willingly seeking the safety and comfort of a jail cell.
Now, if only you'd read my whole post.

but also got a pass from the police and prosecutors who ignored reports from his victims
Actually I did read your whole post, Your point about they

"   also got a pass from the police and prosecutors who ignored reports from his victims "
Is not relevant to the church being culpable is it?
Though the police and prosecutors being involved tho an alarming accusation,

Might be any number Valid of reasons they  didn't take his request and follow up.

Last edited by Hunter/Jumper (2010-09-15 11:36:09)

Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6714
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DonFck
Hibernator
+3,227|6875|Finland

Did we post this one already?

https://i56.tinypic.com/2r3jc08.jpg
I need around tree fiddy.
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6960
the pope can suck my dick wait....
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SenorToenails
Veritas et Scientia
+444|6374|North Tonawanda, NY

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

Actually I did read your whole post, Your point about they

"   also got a pass from the police and prosecutors who ignored reports from his victims "
Is not relevant to the church being culpable is it?
Though the police and prosecutors being involved tho an alarming accusation,

Might be any number Valid of reasons they  didn't take his request and follow up.
I don't think anyone claimed the police and prosecutors were involved in the molestation, or part of any deliberate coverup...they were just negligent.  The church is beyond mere negligence for having knowingly moved priests with multiple complaints around, delaying investigations and arranging payoffs.  The church as a whole didn't partake in the molestation either...but they sure did cover it up, and there is plenty of evidence to show that.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|7015|PNW

DonFck wrote:

Did we post this one already?

http://i56.tinypic.com/2r3jc08.jpg
Jesus loves everybody.

/sacrilege
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6714
jeesh, you guys here on bf2s will argue over anything

debating whether or not the catholic church is a corrupt league of child pederasts

GOOD ONE
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UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5280|Massachusetts, USA
ban tbh
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