explain how they bashed himTurquoise wrote:
Well, bashing one of your owners seems pretty weird (as in what Fox is indirectly doing).11 Bravo wrote:
yes but people are bashing fox. god forbid they bash a brown person.Turquoise wrote:
Talal owns Fox, not the other way around.
Poll
The Founders of the proposed Mosque are Honest T/F ?
| Yes - trying to spread peace understanding ! | 73% | 73% - 17 | ||||
| No - trying to Create a Trophy to jihad ! | 26% | 26% - 6 | ||||
| Total: 23 | ||||||
They bashed the charity he heads that also is funding the community center. They've referred to him but not by name (for obvious reasons).11 Bravo wrote:
explain how they bashed himTurquoise wrote:
Well, bashing one of your owners seems pretty weird (as in what Fox is indirectly doing).11 Bravo wrote:
yes but people are bashing fox. god forbid they bash a brown person.
explain how they bashed them. who said what. quotes. etc
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11 Bravo wrote:
explain how they bashed them. who said what. quotes. etc
"...a number of these leaders from the Muslim World who are supported by organizations like the Kingdom Foundation which has been a funder of Imam Rouf in the past. The Kingdom Foundation, so you know, is this Saudi organization headed up by the guy who tried to give Rudy Guiliani $10 million after 9/11 that was sent back. He funds radical madrassahs all over the world."
That guy is Talal.
http://archives.cnn.com/2001/US/10/11/r … ni.prince/
erm..... they bring people on to give their opinions. its what makes people hate and like fox. both bring in money. i think you are grasping at straws.
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Well, the main issue as I see it is that it seems to be a pretty blatant demonstration of them assuming that few people watching this show would bother to research their claims.
Given the level of protesting we've seen so far with this community center, I'd say Fox and many others have done a great job of riling people up while still keeping Talal's connection to the center mostly under wraps.
Given the level of protesting we've seen so far with this community center, I'd say Fox and many others have done a great job of riling people up while still keeping Talal's connection to the center mostly under wraps.
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you think people watching maddow or oberman research what they say? turq you are not making much sense.Turquoise wrote:
Well, the main issue as I see it is that it seems to be a pretty blatant demonstration of them assuming that few people watching this show would bother to research their claims.
Given the level of protesting we've seen so far with this community center, I'd say Fox and many others have done a great job of riling people up while still keeping Talal's connection to the center mostly under wraps.
Maybe they're playing the long game, when Fox change their mind and come out in favour they'll have their tame audience behind the mosque.Turquoise wrote:
Given the level of protesting we've seen so far with this community center, I'd say Fox and many others have done a great job of riling people up while still keeping Talal's connection to the center mostly under wraps.
Fuck Israel
I do. If I discovered a blatant hypocrisy on the part of either, I would post it as well.11 Bravo wrote:
you think people watching maddow or oberman research what they say? turq you are not making much sense.Turquoise wrote:
Well, the main issue as I see it is that it seems to be a pretty blatant demonstration of them assuming that few people watching this show would bother to research their claims.
Given the level of protesting we've seen so far with this community center, I'd say Fox and many others have done a great job of riling people up while still keeping Talal's connection to the center mostly under wraps.
The main hypocrisy I've found with Maddow is when she was blasting gun rights activists as being single issue voters and likening them to prohibitionists. This comparison was hypocritical in two respects.
First, gun rights activists are protecting a right -- not removing one.
Second, prohibitionists were progressives in their day, and Maddow calls herself a progressive. While progressivism has clearly changed a lot since those days, the analogy still seems a bit illogical coming from her.
hmm... an interesting possibility....Dilbert_X wrote:
Maybe they're playing the long game, when Fox change their mind and come out in favour they'll have their tame audience behind the mosque.Turquoise wrote:
Given the level of protesting we've seen so far with this community center, I'd say Fox and many others have done a great job of riling people up while still keeping Talal's connection to the center mostly under wraps.
you dont represent their entire audience (even though it is rather small). so, you know damn well most people dont. they go with whatever they feed to them.
I'm not debating that. But again, so far, I haven't discovered anything on par with this coming from them... yet.11 Bravo wrote:
you dont represent their entire audience (even though it is rather small). so, you know damn well most people dont. they go with whatever they feed to them.
Now, John mentioned that Huffington Post is owned by a conservative. That could lead to some interesting possibilities.
on par with what? i didnt see anything wrong with that clipTurquoise wrote:
I haven't discovered anything on par with this coming from them... yet.
TBH, I don't know where he gets that from. I have heard no such thing.Turquoise wrote:
Now, John mentioned that Huffington Post is owned by a conservative. That could lead to some interesting possibilities.
He claims to know the president of HuffPo and that he's a conservative. I looked up Greg Coleman, but I couldn't find much on him besides his past with Yahoo.Macbeth wrote:
TBH, I don't know where he gets that from. I have heard no such thing.Turquoise wrote:
Now, John mentioned that Huffington Post is owned by a conservative. That could lead to some interesting possibilities.
You'd have to ask John more about this.
ok then...11 Bravo wrote:
on par with what? i didnt see anything wrong with that clipTurquoise wrote:
I haven't discovered anything on par with this coming from them... yet.
tell me what is wrong with itTurquoise wrote:
ok then...11 Bravo wrote:
on par with what? i didnt see anything wrong with that clipTurquoise wrote:
I haven't discovered anything on par with this coming from them... yet.
Bravo, I already did. They're hyping up a controversy that they're willing partners in.11 Bravo wrote:
tell me what is wrong with itTurquoise wrote:
ok then...11 Bravo wrote:
on par with what? i didnt see anything wrong with that clip
the people they pay to talk about these things arent involved with it. they are paid to stir shit up. thats what 24 news stations do ffs. show me a press statement from the ceo at fox news bashing them then your bollocks may hold some water for once.Turquoise wrote:
Bravo, I already did. They're hyping up a controversy that they're willing partners in.11 Bravo wrote:
tell me what is wrong with itTurquoise wrote:
ok then...
So actively paying people to stir things up about a controversy you're involved in isn't hypocritical?..11 Bravo wrote:
the people they pay to talk about these things arent involved with it. they are paid to stir shit up. thats what 24 news stations do ffs. show me a press statement from the ceo at fox news bashing them then your bollocks may hold some water for once.Turquoise wrote:
Bravo, I already did. They're hyping up a controversy that they're willing partners in.11 Bravo wrote:
tell me what is wrong with it
once again you are not looking at it. they know damn well it will be a hot topic. get opinions from both sides, which they do, and it makes for good tv. nothing wrong with that.Turquoise wrote:
So actively paying people to stir things up about a controversy you're involved in isn't hypocritical?..11 Bravo wrote:
the people they pay to talk about these things arent involved with it. they are paid to stir shit up. thats what 24 news stations do ffs. show me a press statement from the ceo at fox news bashing them then your bollocks may hold some water for once.Turquoise wrote:
Bravo, I already did. They're hyping up a controversy that they're willing partners in.
I haven't seen them spend much time on voicing support for the community center.11 Bravo wrote:
once again you are not looking at it. they know damn well it will be a hot topic. get opinions from both sides, which they do, and it makes for good tv. nothing wrong with that.Turquoise wrote:
So actively paying people to stir things up about a controversy you're involved in isn't hypocritical?..11 Bravo wrote:
the people they pay to talk about these things arent involved with it. they are paid to stir shit up. thats what 24 news stations do ffs. show me a press statement from the ceo at fox news bashing them then your bollocks may hold some water for once.
cuz you are busy watching maddow and obermanTurquoise wrote:
I haven't seen them spend much time on voicing support for the community center.11 Bravo wrote:
once again you are not looking at it. they know damn well it will be a hot topic. get opinions from both sides, which they do, and it makes for good tv. nothing wrong with that.Turquoise wrote:
So actively paying people to stir things up about a controversy you're involved in isn't hypocritical?..
Seriously though... have you seen anyone on Fox actually voice support for the community center -- and not in a context where the person is obviously being attacked for holding this stance?11 Bravo wrote:
cuz you are busy watching maddow and obermanTurquoise wrote:
I haven't seen them spend much time on voicing support for the community center.11 Bravo wrote:
once again you are not looking at it. they know damn well it will be a hot topic. get opinions from both sides, which they do, and it makes for good tv. nothing wrong with that.
i havent watched the news in about 2 years i think. but when i did they seemed to do a good job at both sides. matter of fact i swear i saw a stat somewhere about that.Turquoise wrote:
Seriously though... have you seen anyone on Fox actually voice support for the community center -- and not in a context where the person is obviously being attacked for holding this stance?11 Bravo wrote:
cuz you are busy watching maddow and obermanTurquoise wrote:
I haven't seen them spend much time on voicing support for the community center.