Turquoise
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Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

anti islam would not be about hate.
orly?
you are right. not limted to hate only, but also violence
You can be against fanatical Islam without being a fanatic yourself.

Granted, you are correct that many people make that error.  The guy who stabbed the taxi driver in NYC made the same mistake, and he even should've known better from personal experience.
Beduin
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Turquoise wrote:

Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

anti islam would not be about hate.
orly?
you are right. not limted to hate only, but also violence
You can be against fanatical Islam without being a fanatic yourself.
we are talking about anti islam, not anti radical islam.
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Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

anti islam would not be about hate.
orly?
you are right. not limted to hate only, but also violence
ya?  want me to link a woman getting acid tossed on her face in the name of glorious islam?
Beduin
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11 Bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

anti islam would not be about hate.
orly?
you are right. not limted to hate only, but also violence
ya?  want me to link a woman getting acid tossed on her face in the name of glorious islam?
we could also toss acid at muslims behinde the center. that will teach them.

o/
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11 Bravo
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Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:


orly?
you are right. not limted to hate only, but also violence
ya?  want me to link a woman getting acid tossed on her face in the name of glorious islam?
we could also toss acid at muslims behinde the center. that will teach them.

o/
pancake bunny award
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11 Bravo wrote:

pancake bunny award
https://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee37/Middleeaster/gzprotest.jpg
føk jeaah
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Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

pancake bunny award
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee37 … rotest.jpg
føk jeaah
You're really not helping your case... So do you consider yourself a Muslim or a Dane?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
11 Bravo
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Beduin wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

pancake bunny award
http://i228.photobucket.com/albums/ee37 … rotest.jpg
føk jeaah
if all you are going to do is respond with overused internet pictures then....
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11 Bravo wrote:

if all you are going to do is respond with overused internet pictures then....
two of them will be at the mega mosque 9/11 protest. missiles? ffs
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Turquoise
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Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Beduin wrote:


orly?
you are right. not limted to hate only, but also violence
You can be against fanatical Islam without being a fanatic yourself.
we are talking about anti islam, not anti radical islam.
Well, you can be anti-religion in general without being a fanatic as well.

For example, I disapprove of all religion, but I'm not a fanatic about it.  I could start my own anti-religion center focused on atheism if I wanted to, but admittedly, I have no interest in doing that.
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Turquoise wrote:

I could start my own anti-religion center focused on atheism if I wanted to, but admittedly, I have no interest in doing that.
Focused on atheism, yes, why not? I totally agree. But a center focused on bashing one religion with over 1.4 bill followers? You lose me here.
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Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I could start my own anti-religion center focused on atheism if I wanted to, but admittedly, I have no interest in doing that.
Focused on atheism, yes, why not? I totally agree. But a center focused on bashing one religion with over 1.4 bill followers? You lose me here.
freedom of speech, private property, etc etc etc
Turquoise
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Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I could start my own anti-religion center focused on atheism if I wanted to, but admittedly, I have no interest in doing that.
Focused on atheism, yes, why not? I totally agree. But a center focused on bashing one religion with over 1.4 bill followers? You lose me here.
Well, when I asked Bravo to elaborate more on the center, he seemed to be specifically talking about fanatical Islam, not Islam in general.

So, I guess he should've said "anti-fanatical Islam" center.
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Turquoise wrote:

So, I guess he should've said "anti-fanatical Islam" center.

11 Bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

I could start my own anti-religion center focused on atheism if I wanted to, but admittedly, I have no interest in doing that.
Focused on atheism, yes, why not? I totally agree. But a center focused on bashing one religion with over 1.4 bill followers? You lose me here.
freedom of speech, private property, etc etc etc
No.
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Turquoise
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Well, the freedom of speech allows an anti-Islam center to be built, as long as certain lines aren't crossed.

For example, the center could strongly criticize Islam in general, but it couldn't incite riots or encourage violent behavior toward Muslims.

Basically, freedom of speech allows a wide range of criticism, but speech connected to violence is the limit.

Granted, it's very likely local governments would move to block the construction of an anti-Islam center.
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Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

So, I guess he should've said "anti-fanatical Islam" center.

11 Bravo wrote:

Beduin wrote:


Focused on atheism, yes, why not? I totally agree. But a center focused on bashing one religion with over 1.4 bill followers? You lose me here.
freedom of speech, private property, etc etc etc
No.
yes
Beduin
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Turquoise wrote:

but it couldn't incite riots or encourage violent behavior toward Muslims.
Thats a sweet thought. Unfortunately, thats not how human nature works. The History of humankind proves that.
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Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

but it couldn't incite riots or encourage violent behavior toward Muslims.
Thats a sweet thought. Unfortunately, thats not how human nature works. The History of humankind proves that.
I understand where you're coming from, but the way the system works here is that you have to have evidence of these things before you can block or restrict them.  Granted, as I hinted earlier, there are ways that governments can get around this -- like with zoning laws.
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Turquoise wrote:

Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

but it couldn't incite riots or encourage violent behavior toward Muslims.
Thats a sweet thought. Unfortunately, thats not how human nature works. The History of humankind proves that.
I understand where you're coming from, but the way the system works here is that you have to have evidence of these things before you can block or restrict them.
the way system works? I did not say anything about blocking or shutting down anything.
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Turquoise
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Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Beduin wrote:


Thats a sweet thought. Unfortunately, thats not how human nature works. The History of humankind proves that.
I understand where you're coming from, but the way the system works here is that you have to have evidence of these things before you can block or restrict them.
the way system works? I did not say anything about blocking or shutting down anything.
Beduin, I understand that.  I'm just saying that the freedom of speech is a burden that sometimes results in conflicts because of extreme differences in views.
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Turquoise wrote:

Beduin, I understand that.  I'm just saying that the freedom of speech is a burden that sometimes results in conflicts because of extreme differences in views.
and am only adding : It can, in worst case scenario, cost lives
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Turquoise
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Beduin wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Beduin, I understand that.  I'm just saying that the freedom of speech is a burden that sometimes results in conflicts because of extreme differences in views.
and am only adding : It can, in worst case scenario, cost lives
Absolutely.  Sometimes, the freer a society is, the less secure it is.  Every society has to decide what balance of freedom and security they feel is optimal.
Hunter/Jumper
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I am glad Fox told me. I like to know. I used to live there. Fox Didn't " make me angry " or " Stoke my fear " They just told me. - Thats all.

I don't get mad fast  or scare easy - life's to short.

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Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I am glad Fox told me. I like to know. i used to live there. Fox Didn't " make me angry " or Stoke my fear " They just told me. - Thats all.
We Report. You decide.


I think you didn't take that second piece of info with you.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
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AussieReaper wrote:

Hunter/Jumper wrote:

I am glad Fox told me. I like to know. i used to live there. Fox Didn't " make me angry " or Stoke my fear " They just told me. - Thats all.
We Report. You decide.


I think you didn't take that second piece of info with you.
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