Murdoch/News America Inc. donates $1m to Republicans

2010-08-18 17:03:53

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Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6875|London, England

Rupert Murdoch's News America Inc has donated $1m (£637,000) to the Republican Governors Association ahead of November's US mid-term elections.

The donation from the parent company of Fox News helped the RGA more than double its fundraising in the second quarter of 2010.

The association helps elect Republican candidates to US governorships.

Democrats said the donation meant Fox News had "crossed a bright line" regarding impartiality.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11014504

Any precedence for something like this? It's not a personal donation from one R.Murdoch, it's the company itself. A media outlet. I'm sure it's been done before all over the world, but well it's not news for no reason is it.

I think media corporations donating to political parties is probably just about the worst thing you can do in terms of showing how much of a responsible outlet you are. Having media like that is just as bad as having restricted censored media, IMO.

It isn't right that some punk ass Australian wields so much power in so many countries. News Corp needs to be treated the same as Standard Oil was, except it's much much more worse than Standard ever was...

2010-08-18 17:35:51

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Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5612|London, England

Umm... are you new to American politics?

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-08-18 18:15:53

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

JohnG@lt wrote:
Umm... are you new to American politics?

Corporations own political parties? I didn't know that so how would he?

Fuck Israel

2010-08-18 18:17:11

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Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6803|San Diego, CA, USA

Only a million? How much does Soros though all his shell companies donates to Democrats?

2010-08-18 18:33:36

#5

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5612|London, England

Dilbert_X wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Umm... are you new to American politics?
Corporations own political parties? I didn't know that so how would he?

They don't own political parties, but they do make campaign contributions. $1M is rather negligible compared to the ridiculous sums that are spent every election cycle.

This is a non-news story.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-08-18 19:01:24

#6

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6906|USA

Mekstizzle wrote:
Rupert Murdoch's News America Inc has donated $1m (£637,000) to the Republican Governors Association ahead of November's US mid-term elections.
The donation from the parent company of Fox News helped the RGA more than double its fundraising in the second quarter of 2010.

The association helps elect Republican candidates to US governorships.

Democrats said the donation meant Fox News had "crossed a bright line" regarding impartiality.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11014504
Any precedence for something like this? It's not a personal donation from one R.Murdoch, it's the company itself. A media outlet. I'm sure it's been done before all over the world, but well it's not news for no reason is it.

I think media corporations donating to political parties is probably just about the worst thing you can do in terms of showing how much of a responsible outlet you are. Having media like that is just as bad as having restricted censored media, IMO.

It isn't right that some punk ass Australian wields so much power in so many countries. News Corp needs to be treated the same as Standard Oil was, except it's much much more worse than Standard ever was...

It is bullshit is what it is....THe media should remain neutral on all fronts..and just reportthe news and investigate our elected officals when ethics is in question. Iti s the only way they can secure their position as the 4th estate. As it is now it is nothing more than a propaganda machine for politicans and that is a dangerous thing.

2010-08-18 19:05:22

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Reciprocity: Member; +721|6835|the dank(super) side of Oregon

international corporations are people, too.

2010-08-18 19:42:49

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eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5513|foggy bottom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Citizens_U … Commission

its the law of the land. suck it up and thank the conservative bloc on the supreme court.

Last edited by eleven bravo (2010-08-18 19:45:30)

Tu Stultus Es

2010-08-18 19:51:31

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unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7026|PNW

Harmor wrote:
Soros

What else is there to say?

2010-08-18 21:41:49

#10

Harmor: Error_Name_Not_Found; +605|6803|San Diego, CA, USA

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Harmor wrote:
Soros
What else is there to say?

Yeah...Soros has been funneling campaign contributions and help to Democrats for years through 501.3c organizations:

https://img594.imageshack.us/img594/2428/georgesoros.png

2010-08-19 04:25:10

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Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6875|London, England

JohnG@lt wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Umm... are you new to American politics?
Corporations own political parties? I didn't know that so how would he?
They don't own political parties, but they do make campaign contributions. $1M is rather negligible compared to the ridiculous sums that are spent every election cycle.

This is a non-news story.

No, It's news because it's a media corporation/company that's doing the donating. That's what I even specifically mentioned in the OP, everyone knows that regular companies always make political donations but they don't hide behind glossy newsrooms and internet pages with ideals of being unbiased and a shining beacon like most media outlets think of themselves as.

2010-08-19 05:22:28

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cdailey2142: Flesh Peddler; +14|5317

And this whole thing surprises everyone WHY????

2010-08-19 05:26:39

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jord: Member; +2,382|6932|The North, beyond the wall.

cdailey2142 wrote:
And this whole thing surprises everyone WHY????

Nobody is surprised. Its a thread regarding the bastardization of the media with a recent example cited. A subject more interesting than bitching about a mediocre us president perhaps.

2010-08-19 05:28:34

#14

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,815|6360|eXtreme to the maX

jord wrote:
A subject more interesting than bitching about a mediocre us president perhaps.

That doesn't narrow it down a lot.

Fuck Israel

2010-08-19 07:01:41

#15

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5612|London, England

Mekstizzle wrote:
JohnG@lt wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:

Corporations own political parties? I didn't know that so how would he?
They don't own political parties, but they do make campaign contributions. $1M is rather negligible compared to the ridiculous sums that are spent every election cycle.

This is a non-news story.
No, It's news because it's a media corporation/company that's doing the donating. That's what I even specifically mentioned in the OP, everyone knows that regular companies always make political donations but they don't hide behind glossy newsrooms and internet pages with ideals of being unbiased and a shining beacon like most media outlets think of themselves as.

You honestly think this is the first time? I bet if one were to dig we'd see thousands of news reporters over the years that have donated money to a specific candidate that they believed in. To expect Fox to donate an equal amount to Dems is just lolz. To make a news story out of it is just petty 'gotcha' politics. I guess the right caught the left with their pants down on the mosque thing this week so they pulled this out.

Look, American news media can't get any more discredited. It's not even news, it's entertainment with an opinion. I'm just trying to figure out why anyone is surprised...

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-08-19 07:27:01

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Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6875|London, England

Yeah. Individuals and such aren't that much of a surprise either, I also said that in the OP. I'm talking more about media/news companies themselves. It's different compared to individuals and different compared to regular (non-media) companies. Which is why I also wondered if there was any precedence for this. I dunno about Time Warner or the BBC (the companies themselves) ever donating to political parties. Never heard of that before.

I guess the right caught the left with their pants down on the mosque thing this week so they pulled this out.

I mean, I heard that the mosque thing was created as a cover up for some other 9/11 first responders bill which they're blocking... but that's me getting too into US politics, which frankly, makes me feel sick nowadays anyway.

2010-08-19 07:38:13

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Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5612|London, England

Mekstizzle wrote:
Yeah. Individuals and such aren't that much of a surprise either, I also said that in the OP. I'm talking more about media/news companies themselves. It's different compared to individuals and different compared to regular (non-media) companies. Which is why I also wondered if there was any precedence for this. I dunno about Time Warner or the BBC (the companies themselves) ever donating to political parties. Never heard of that before.

I guess the right caught the left with their pants down on the mosque thing this week so they pulled this out.
I mean, I heard that the mosque thing was created as a cover up for some other 9/11 first responders bill which they're blocking... but that's me getting too into US politics, which frankly, makes me feel sick nowadays anyway.

It's been a series of non-news-stories blown into national issues by both sides for the past twenty years. It's disgusting and makes the ignorant masses in this country even more ignorant. They've effectively made it so that anyone who actually watches cable news turns into a mindless partisan drone incapable of rational thought. Just look at this board, is it not obvious who gets their opinions from the MSM? Have you tried debating them? Impossible.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2010-08-19 07:44:24

#18

Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6659|North Carolina

Mekstizzle wrote:
I mean, I heard that the mosque thing was created as a cover up for some other 9/11 first responders bill which they're blocking... but that's me getting too into US politics, which frankly, makes me feel sick nowadays anyway.

Pretty much... and yeah, American politics sicken me as well. Canadians are far less partisan by comparison.

2010-08-19 07:53:58

#19

lowing: Banned; +1,662|6906|USA

JohnG@lt wrote:
Mekstizzle wrote:
Yeah. Individuals and such aren't that much of a surprise either, I also said that in the OP. I'm talking more about media/news companies themselves. It's different compared to individuals and different compared to regular (non-media) companies. Which is why I also wondered if there was any precedence for this. I dunno about Time Warner or the BBC (the companies themselves) ever donating to political parties. Never heard of that before.

I guess the right caught the left with their pants down on the mosque thing this week so they pulled this out.
I mean, I heard that the mosque thing was created as a cover up for some other 9/11 first responders bill which they're blocking... but that's me getting too into US politics, which frankly, makes me feel sick nowadays anyway.
It's been a series of non-news-stories blown into national issues by both sides for the past twenty years. It's disgusting and makes the ignorant masses in this country even more ignorant. They've effectively made it so that anyone who actually watches cable news turns into a mindless partisan drone incapable of rational thought. Just look at this board, is it not obvious who gets their opinions from the MSM? Have you tried debating them? Impossible.

Ahhhhhhh yes! the power of debate by the superior minded with "rational thought"..

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 6#p3283486

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 9#p3284289

2010-08-19 08:28:26

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11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5492|Cleveland, Ohio

sad thing that people need a story like this to get all upset when its been under their nose the whole time. yes Mek we know the media...you think this is the first time? you think its just fox? guess you never heard of george soros? thats ok cuz this happened like 10 years ago and it appears you euros are worse media sheep then you claim the US to be. ever here of CNN?

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/stor … st=s_cn_hl

"The Washington Post reported Turner and an investor group that includes international financier George Soros signed a $225 million deal on Tuesday to buy out Gusinsky."

so turner and soros are boys and turner owns CNN yet not a peep from you? where was you outrage then? where is the euro internet outrage about CNN?

fail OP

2010-08-19 08:32:02

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Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6875|London, England

Yeah well they were doing it as individuals not as the company themselves, I think I mentioned that enough already in this thread. That's the distinction. This is News America Inc, doing the donation to a political party. Not Murdoch. Not some other random director. It's a media company. I think it's pretty dastardly.

Actually what you're saying about Soros and such ...well I don't even understand. Were these guys making political donations or..?

From what I can see about your news article, it doesn't even say anything at all about political donations...

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2010-08-19 08:33:12)

2010-08-19 08:34:52

#22

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5492|Cleveland, Ohio

thats why i said go research soros...

2010-08-19 08:40:25

#23

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5492|Cleveland, Ohio

but once again what is news? i mean every station will give you the basic info. 4 die in house fire, car recall, lindsey lohan in court, plane crashes into house, bear attacks woman, etc.....

they all do that just fine. now, when it comes to the primetime talk shows will that aint news. nobody expects it to be news.

2010-08-19 08:40:38

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6659|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:
thats why i said go research soros...

Legally speaking, there is a difference between a media organization and an individual funding candidates. Practically, there isn't.

However, to illustrate this difference in action, campaign finance rules limit what amount that individuals can donate to politicians in a given period of time. Yet, these same rules don't cover corporations or lobbyists.

So, in effect, people like Soros and Murdoch can donate far more money than is allowed for individuals through using their companies to do so.

If nothing else, this shows that we need more comprehensive campaign finance reform. Limiting donations made by individuals actually limits lower and middle class people more than it does the rich, because only the rich tend to have corporations and lobbyists to donate through.

Last edited by Turquoise (2010-08-19 08:41:04)

2010-08-19 08:43:37

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eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5513|foggy bottom

Turquoise wrote:
Legally speaking, there is a difference between a media organization and an individual funding candidates.

wrong

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