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AussieReaper wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

ATG wrote:


Very little, I have maybe .25-.50 ounce in gold nuggets that I prospected. But I do own 6.5 pounds in silver now.

Thanks Mom, R.I.P
You should buy more gold.

I have 4 kilograms, I'm totally not going to regret that investment, as gold will NEVER decrease in value
I'm going to invest in Tulips. The demand for those has skyrocketed the whole year of 1636. They'll be worth double what they are now in 1638 I'm betting.
LOL...  silly bubble talk
AussieReaper
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Tulip bulbs will NEVER decrease in value.
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Turquoise wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

Doctor Strangelove wrote:


You should buy more gold.

I have 4 kilograms, I'm totally not going to regret that investment, as gold will NEVER decrease in value
I'm going to invest in Tulips. The demand for those has skyrocketed the whole year of 1636. They'll be worth double what they are now in 1638 I'm betting.
LOL...  silly bubble talk
I'm looking at water as an investment. evil jew bankers are buying all that shit up.
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this thread is the best
ATG
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This is worth a read. Take this stuff, compare it to what is happening in the world.

1. Harassment: When faced with opposition, the Elitists first attempt to overcome by "buying" someone out. If that doesn't work, they resort to discrediting and then harassment in extreme form via endless phone calls, tapping or tracking, or tailing and following as well as putting out negative, disparaging and secret info on them, snooping in their lives and projects. IRS hassles, accusing one of false crimes, negatively doctoring a person's personal and work records are all means for the Illuminati to gain superiority over individuals and to make them cede to their goals. Driving opponents or dissenters mad or to the point of paranoia is one of their prized exercises.

2. Population Control: Invented food shortages, water contamination, lack of space, depletion of "green" are maneuvers to slice off 2/3rd of the world's six-billion citizens, and save themselves, while allowing death and other horrors to befall the other 4-billion. Subtle means of ending our existence include abortion (Planned Parent is the main culprit), genetic engineering (cloning allows engineers to create an army of soldiers bred to have massive muscle bulk, superior senses, powerful killing skills or to breed doubles to replace people; it also introduces chimeras (hybrid animal/human forms), and angels of death (ridding hospitals, clinics — the general population — of infirmed and old people who put burdens on our society. Euthanasia is a form of this, as are fatal surgical procedures).

3. Contamination: Any form of poisoning will kill a sizeable population, and this can be targeted. The elite can contaminate our water supplies and food resources (genetically modified food may be exemplary), and despoil our land (soil impregnated with bacteria, oil and other toxic spills).

4. Detainment Camps are set up as holding areas until termination ensues or the enslavement of those in society they believe will serve as strong and vital slaves. Whether factual or not, that we even believe they exist puts us in a state of fear and anger. Underlying the knowledge of such Gulags is the simple fact that the American populace realizes that a police state or Martial Law is on the horizon.

5. Moral Corruption has been and remains a major technique for bringing about the New World Order, with all its anti-Americanism, anti-patriotism, and anti-traditionalism going on. Destruction of home-taught values has been aligned with the new educational dockets in government schools. Relative values rule over old-fashioned, family-oriented absolute values...what is morally, ethically and legally right and wrong ("Whatever feels right to you, do it, even if it isn't").

6. Diversity: This refers to forcing us to show tolerance, understanding and acceptance for values we do not believe in. "Political correctness" was the thrust for this. Censorship and hate crimes are also a means for forcing undesirable changes down our throats.

7. Racial Dissention: This is a method they use to create conflict among races and nationalities, as in "Divide and conquer."

8. Removal of God: The Elite work hard to prohibit us from making any reference to God or Christ and the sacredness of Christianity in public but yet they promote pagan holidays, Wicca, black magic and practice Satanism. A society lacking in God and spirituality — especially one supposedly built on Christianity — is a doomed civilization, and one that easily cedes to others. Apostasy in our churches, especially Catholicism, is a sign of the destruction foisted on us. Their goal is to reach back to the Ancient Mysteries, and to learn what they believe are advanced technologies from ancient aliens and gods

9. Ecumenism is another parameter for a one-world religion. Believing that Christ is not the savior, or that other people or so called "prophets" are the saviors makes Christianity invalid. Some believe New Ageism will be the one-world religion, while others think global warming with become the hymn. An aspect of their plan is their contrived apocalypse based on the books of Revelation and Daniel.

10. Remiss Authority Figures: Many parents and adults fear today's youth. Kids scream, yell, mock, and often physically abuse their parents or other elders. They're rude and disrespectful. Much of this is attributed to the "It takes a village to raise a child" mentality, where children are supposed to be cuddled, free-thinking, and do whatever they want. Parents and authority have become remiss in correcting foul children. The Elite encourage children to resist authority, on one hand, while wanting them to mindlessly obey, on the other.

11. Failing Educational System: Education is the key approach for altering children's beliefs of what is right and wrong through mind control programs, rewriting history, introducing alternative and debased sexual teachings, and false ideologies. This conditions them to accept whatever the Powers lay before them, and they are dumbeddown so that they won't learn the truth and rebel.

12. Sexual Perversion is used to advance Elitists' goals and degrade our morals, getting us to accept and even adopt anything they put on us, and often using such activity to blackmail us.

13. Drugs/Alcohol: Breeding a society of chemically abused and dependent individuals is one way to get people to accept matters contrary to their morals, and to rely on the government to help them get through it. Addiction robs us financially and psychologically while diverting law enforcement efforts to other areas. Prescribed medicine makes us reliant on pills and doctors while ballooning Big Pharma profits.

14. Gambling: Promoting illegal activities through pretenses of "enjoyment" and promises of making big money is yet another scheme by the Elitist to keep us dependent on money and materialism for our happiness, and to be dependent on outside forces for our happenings and success.

15. Chaos is a maneuver to keep us bewildered. By putting events and activities in a framework of utter turmoil where no one knows what to do, who to believe, or on whom to rely, the Powers can emerge as the saviors by offering solutions to the chaos they have secretly exacted. Conflicting issues via the Hegelian Dialectics keep the masses on edge, doubting, and confused, as well as sidetracked from the real issues they want to forward.

16. Cover-ups: What the Illuminati don't want us to know, they cover up by disposing of the people, making them "disappear," or placing vital documents under "classified," or through throwing out red herrings at us. Whistleblowers are often destroyed career-wise, or personally mocked, or injured, and even murdered. Underground and black ops are keys to cover-ups. Propagation of conspiracies is a game for them and a way for them to conflict the masses. Intentional leaks are one of their prescribed methods for conditioning us to their intent and for confusing us.

17. Environment: Using global warming as a "unifying issue," the Illuminati are not only making scads of money through corporate green programs and retail merchandise, but also deceiving people into believing that the issue is real, when in reality hundreds of scientists who are not given print can testify against it. Thus the environment is used as a weapon to employ the Elitist's objectives and to create a common mantra — a religion of its own. Added to this are sustainable development and eminent domain (taking commoners' lands for their own purposes), and controlled weather (HAARP — High frequency Active Auroral Research Program and other weather weapons), among other processes.

18. Destroying the Workforce: Damaging treaties (GATT, NAFTA, etc.) created the massive loss of jobs in our country via outsourcing and the erosion of our industries. America has been minimized as a strong nation and castrated as a super power. Jobs have been given to illegal immigrants in our country or sent overseas to India and China and other nations. Americans struggle financially as the Elitists lower us to third world status. Illegal immigration is just one of their schemes for running the world.

19. Crimes: A society frightened of being murdered, raped, beaten, held hostage, hijacked, or kidnapped, or victims of vehicular deaths, road rage, and "suicided," among other abominable offenses, is a society wailing for security, in spite of lost rights. This, then, is just one more method of cuckolding us into ceding our rights to Big Brother. The ICC (International Criminal Court) was created to imprison people of different cultures, including Americans. The protection of hard core, guilty criminals is also symptomatic of a failing country.

20. Terrorism: The Powers keep us in a state of trepidation over terrorism — real or contrived — and cause us to cede our freedoms for protection. 2001's 9/11 caused a major breakdown of the U.S. Constitution, the infringement of rights and policies through Homeland Security, the Patriot Act, biochips, and soon-to-come Martial Law; hence, the concentration camps for those who balk against the Police State or promote dissension.

21. Slavery and Prostitution: Many people, especially younger ones, are rounded up in clandestine ways and are forced into slavery or prostitution. They may be stolen during the night, taken coming and going from school, or whisked off in parking lots. They are often earmarked by the Powers who want young maidens or lads to "entertain" visiting dignitaries or foreign VIPs who abuse the kids and sell them to slave masters, pimps, and other black market factions. Some researchers believe that these missing people have even been sacrificed in satanic rituals.

22. Genocide is a method for wiping out an entire society for depopulation purposes, for government gain, for eliminating enemies, for creating a super race by purging traits deemed negative. Genocide, then, is an effective way for the Elite to sort out which people they want and which they don't; it gets rid of the unwanted in one fell swoop. Some of their methods include random extermination (holocausts) and heinous atrocities, creating insurrections to kill off a religious or racial group, and holocausts.

23. Decision Makers: The Illuminati's power shores them up to decide who the next president or prime minister will be, who will receive grants and government funding, and anything else that affect us on a personal and national level.

24. Diseases: Bacteria and viruses can be released during either war or peace time to create a chaos and a demand for protection that would help the powers to achieve their mission of globalism; bio-warfare can be reserved for combat when the substances are unleashed on enemies. Besides using bacteria in germ warfare, they also test substances on humans, some unknowingly. The introduction of HIV, the rise of once eliminated childhood diseases, biochem warfare, and the growing number of unknown bacterial and viral diseases are representative of their manipulations. They can put substances into drinking water; they've introduced cell phones knowing the dangers of cancer; and they've used microwaves and other technologies against us, as well as various forms of experimentation.

25. Computerization/Technology: The Elite have many classified means of controlling us, though some are still in the trial stages. Consider nanochips (teeny tiny robots can be placed in humans to control them), robotic reproduction (the ability of robots and computers to reproduce), and GTWA (Global Technology World Alliance which is a secret society developing and working with advanced technology to achieve control and denomination of international supremacy and economics. Bluetooth, Wii and other high-tech tools, along with laser and advanced weaponry (stun guns, particle beams) are also tools for fully establishing the NWO. The Elite have secret labs and black ops; yet, they won't support scientists and researchers who create inventions or medications for the good of mankind.

26. UFOs: Whether truly from another planet or invented by the government, they can be used to instill paralyzing dread in us if they tell us that an invasion is real. Quickly we would give up all our rights to be protected from enemies.

27. Economy: In order for the Elite to completely take over the world, they have to capture the economic sector to create a one-world economy, as seen in the collapse of the American dollar, along with merging the U.S., Canada and America into one of the ten regions. These ten regions each will have a representative on a governing panel, with one member emerging as a dictator. Many of the other ten regions have already been set up. Elitists manipulate the stock market and all other monetary resources; they own the Federal Reserve, and control all international currencies, determining what your paycheck will be worth.

28. Feminism and Working Mothers: From the moment the Powers decided to use left-wing feminism as a way to cause resentment between men and women and their children, is the moment when the institution of marriage faltered. Two incomes gave Mom and Dad the false sense that they had money, and thus materialism also seeped into our lives at the same time. The role of males has been re-defined and belittled.

29. UN: Most damaging for American citizens is the UN which strives to undermine our country, reduce our spending power, eliminate our freedoms, lower us to third world status, make us pay for other countries' problems, and rape of us of everything that once made us powerful. Doing this allows the NWO to weaken the most prevailing muscle in the world so that we have no strength to fight any of their programs.

30. Confiscation of Rights: The NWO Elitists can't fully stage their takeover until our country is disarmed, as an armed citizenry can fight back. The day they take our guns is the total end of our sovereignty and our country.

31. Secret societies serve to unite the Elitists in their demise of our nation and the installation of a global government via their networking force and underground operations, as well as control over religious, educational and corporate systems. They will never admit that these societies exist and that they are the muscle behind the authority. Symbolism is one facet of them, and they use newspapers, radio airwaves, and TV to subliminally pass messages to one another.

32. Mind Control: The government and their counterparts are most adept in brainwashing techniques using a litany of resources, such as drugs (MKUltra, LSD), projects (Project Monarch, Phoenix), propaganda (constant bombardment of untruths and omissions by the media), cults/programming (groups giving up their individuality and blindly following some unstable leader), and video games, rock music, violence and witchcraft on TV, such as Harry Potter. Even works of fine art are polluted with vulgarity and crude innuendos. Societies have agents and sleepers everywhere.

33. Media Mergers: The Illuminati own all the major media in print, television, radio, music, and theater. They create conglomerates and monopolies. Doing this gives them control over everything we watch, read, and listen to.

34. Corrupt Government: CIA drugs and arm smuggling, bought politicians, undercover dealings, disinformation, lies and distortions, blackmail, constant deceptions are all part of their bid for a one world government. Disinformation is a major means of confusing us, which they do through false media reports, chain letters, the articles they place on the internet, and the rumors they start.

35. Lack of Missile Defense: An unarmed America is akin to a fire in a theater with no exits. While other countries are building their arsenals, we're minimizing ours. Disarmament and the decline of our militia, and thus our ability to defend ourselves, certainly mean defeat even before a conflict breaks out.

36. Decline of Military: Our military lacks the self-confidence, the manpower, the equipment and the technology needed to fight opposing forces, and is compromised in morality and morale through unnecessary wars that are not intended to be won.

37. Passing of EOs: EOs (Executive Orders), PDs (Presidential Directives), and PDDs (Presidential Decision Directives) have become so amorphous and customary that no one cares when a new one is enacted. This is an Illuminati tactic to proceed with their personal agendas without first obtaining congressional approval; thus allowing extreme orders to be written that would prove detrimental to the general public. For example, a single EO could dissolve the entire United States.

38. Infiltration: The Illuminati use subtlety to invade churches, schools, corporations, small businesses, organizations, and everything else, and implant their ideology and philosophy of a one-world government through well honed issues, such as global warming. They have their "people" (often members of their secret societies) placed throughout these entities who make decisions beneficial to the Elitists.

39. Regional Government: One of the most effective means for the Powers to gain control and implement their global rule is through regional government where they give mandates to mayors and municipal managers via documents on how matters must be handled. Law enforcement, attorneys and judges are part of the scenario.

40. Created or Contrived Crises: Whether actual or devised, crises "seem real" to us. False or deliberate crises work to scare us and allow the Illuminists to achieve their goals, such as re-designing New Orleans to their desire, or going to Iraq for oil and the take-over of their banks for the Federal Reserve. Examples include global warming, the energy crisis, floods, hurricanes (they can control the weather), and any other disaster they desire.
AussieReaper
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ATG wrote:

This is worth a read. Take this stuff, compare it to what is happening in the world.
I can sum that all up with the following quote:

"First they ignore you, then they ridicule you, then they fight you, then you win."
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ATG
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You didn't have time to read that cp so piss off mate.
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I've seen it before.

You didn't write it.
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So far all I've seen in this thread is right wingers and christian nut jobs projecting their bias onto patterns perceived in popular media. 

Regarding the videos in the OP they present some interesting data but I'm not buying the "zomg satan worshippers are thumbing their noses at good upstanding Christians" schtick.  If anything it presents some compelling evidence for C.G Jungs theories of archetypes and the collective unconscious.
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ATG wrote:

40 paragraphs about how the NWO controls every level of society

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Lenin took less than a decade
Mussolini took less than a decade
Franco took less than a decade
Hitler took less than a decade
Castro took less than a decade
Mao took less than two decades

NWO has been taking over ten decades, and they still are no where close.
Pretty much derp.
ATG
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Maybe.

In ten years America has seen its constitution all but chucked.
Government Motors anyone?
DesertFox-
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Jesus fucking Christ. The author of that bullshit ATG posted will be happy to know that at least I managed to read all of it. This whole conspiracy would be a massive logistical clusterfuck and require nearly everyone on the earth except for the nutters to be involved in it (which is probably why it seems so plausible). Next they'll be disregarding the shrinks who diagnose them with paranoid schizophrenia.
Jay
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Jestar wrote:

Was linked to this set of videos about the influence of the Illuminati in the media.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DikoLMfn … re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tTM_1ooWTmQ
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_1JGuLK … re=related
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l5qqKScqiuM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-wfOg-9FLow
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pWHiZhl_TBA
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jm2l0FNBsn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BSklaysc3tE
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6znfH43kHsk
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VGnMYD2uuNo

And here's another one about the film industry
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBKDZhu-EZw

Although a fair chunk of the videos are pure skepticism and conspiracy, I do believe, in some aspects, that someone has an influence on things that are presented to us in the media.
Some of the events that happen in this world are simply too strange to be accidents, and if you watch the videos, the part with all the 25th's definitely made me think a bit.

Do you believe in it?
Opinions Nao
zomg! I was born on a 25th! I r illuminati!
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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Pochsy wrote:

jord wrote:

There probably are these secret groups but how much power they wield is probably overestimated.

I think the freemasons have no influence on anything other than their own members. Maybe I'm wrong, or maybe I'm right about the freemasons but there are other more powerful organisations out there. In which case ignorance is bliss.
My father is a member.

You're right for the most part, but you have to remember that the freemasons don't just let in every asshole construction or post-office worker. They have swing over the most influential people in society, and the most influential people gain higher status, more connections, and often gain monetarily (I've heard of some pretty shifty deals under the mason badge).

They definitely come nowhere close to coordinating world events, though.

Also, Opra built the pyramids.
Join a country club.
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-Frederick Bastiat
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AussieReaper wrote:

Also: we built the pyramids.

oug wrote:

Liar clearly that's the work of aliens
Well, the Illuminati drew up the plans.

Once they realized how much labor was involved, they called in the Aliens.
Couldn't get Humans to work on that payscale.

Hell, first we tried to spend a few thousand years tinkering with your dumb, auto-fellating, shit-flinging primate DNA to get you all smart enough to follow simple directions. And most of you all are still stuck on "Fuck it, Eat it, Set it on Fire"; If you can't do any of those three to it, you aren't interested. What passes for creativity for your smarter Humans is to combine two of the three above mentioned activities.
So, obviously, that plan didn't work out on time, so, Plan 9...

Alpha Centauri labor built the Pyramids, Stonehenge, Atlantis, and a few others.
Where the hell you think the phrase Illegal Aliens originally came from?
Mexico?! My 3rd Asshole! 

We also wrote Beowulf, King Arthur, Bible, Koran, and Tanakh as Fairy Tales to read to your children at night.
A little morality, a little hope, a little fear, a little action - keeps the kids behaving.
If we would've know you all were going to get all why so serious? and stabby about it, we might've skipped that bit.

P.S. HP Lovecraft with his Cthulu stories is closest to the truth.
ATG
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Actually, The Pyramids were designed by survivors of Atlantis.

Do you ever wonder how it is that written word ' suddenly ' arrived in Sumatra? Probably not.

But if you studied it, all the available information you would be left with a question mark.

That's were the free Masons come in; they describe the history and designers origins of the Pyramids.




Scoff all you want, but even from a strictly geological point of view consider this; the earth is prone to sudden and violent upheavals. It is a constantly churning ball of mud and fire. It is also subject to bombardment from space. Sudden pole shift.

There could have been advanced civilizations before that were decimated. Churned under. Broken to where no trace remains.



You go right a head and believe that we went from covered wagons to nano technology in a little over a hundred years but spent the last four million living in dung huts and breaking rocks for tools. 

I mock that notion.
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On a serious note:

There really is no need for grand global conspiracies.

Most of the people are plain old lazy, shortsighted, selfish people coasting through life on inertia, whim, and whatever looks cool on TV
A tiny fraction of people are born with the money, wealth, family connections, position, and drive to push their whims and desires on the rest of the people.

That's never been a secret.
Has been plain as day since the first caveman made himself Chief.
Flaming_Maniac
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This is very swiftly becoming not DAST by even the most lax of definitions.

Get back to the fucking topic or get a fucking source if you want to take the thread elswhere, that goes for everyone.

Somewhat along those lines ATG you need to source post #61 if you didn't write that. Not that I think you are claiming to, but if you copy and paste something that extensive if needs a source.
ATG
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

This is very swiftly becoming not DAST by even the most lax of definitions.

Get back to the fucking topic or get a fucking source if you want to take the thread elswhere, that goes for everyone.

Somewhat along those lines ATG you need to source post #61 if you didn't write that. Not that I think you are claiming to, but if you copy and paste something that extensive if needs a source.
As you wish.

Gianni DeVincent Hayes, Ph.D


http://www.newswithviews.com/Hayes/gianni25.htm
ATG
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Oh and, I have been dead serious in every post I have made here.
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ATG wrote:

Scoff all you want [...]
There could have been advanced civilizations before that were decimated. Churned under. Broken to where no trace remains.

You go right a head and believe [...] 

I mock that notion.
There's plenty of unexplained weirdness in the world.
Though I am highly suspicious of anyone or any group that claims to have the Answer that explains everything.

Convince me that you've discovered the answer to some topic, sure.
Why dinosaurs went extinct, where the tale of Atlantis came from, who built Stonehenge - sure.
Explain specific things well enough, and I'll count them credible.
Start playing connect the dots with vague theories, using a superjumbo crayon - not buying it.

Bibles, Religions, and Conspiracy Theories.
They all seem to want you to buy into everything they're selling, because based on a few insights or discoveries, they're convinced they have the Answer to everything.


Yeah, there's weird shit in the world that doesn't have a good explanation.
There's more weird shit that happened precisely because someone didn't have a well thought out plan.
And then there's the Evil Weird Shit, that happened because some psychotic asshole did have a plan, and got lucky.

Pull out Occham's razor, shave off that overgrown crazyguy beard (mostly the Unix programmers on that, but...), and get back down to Earth.
ATG
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I never claimed to have THE answer.

I am claiming that our current political class are servants of Satan or some reptilian sort of demi-god.


I also state that the puppet masters laugh when you poo poo those like me, who see through the smoke.
There will come a day when you remember my warnings, but it will be to late.
Reciprocity
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Doctor Strangelove wrote:

You should buy more gold.

I have 4 kilograms, I'm totally not going to regret that investment, as gold will NEVER decrease in value
good luck buying rusty AK magazines and tins of catfood from the trading caravans with bits of gold and silver.

you want precious metals?  buy 640 round spam cans of 7.62X39.

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ATG wrote:

I never claimed to have THE answer.

I am claiming that our current political class are servants of Satan or some reptilian sort of demi-god.

I also state that the puppet masters laugh when you poo poo those like me, who see through the smoke.
There will come a day when you remember my warnings, but it will be to late.
Not saying you have all the answers.

Saying that the stuff you are reading is trying to sell you a pile.

Human laziness, human greed, human evil, and a few rich powerful families in the world.
That's plenty powerful enough, without wrapping it in grand conspiracies and omnipotent covens.

Bill Gates had a huge influence on where the computer connected world is today.
Stalin, Hitler, Churchill, Truman, Eisenhower.. all cast a huge shadow on where the world is today.
Jesus Christ, Mohammed, Moses, Aaron, Ali.. more men that have had a huge lasting impact on the course of history.

Don't need Satanic reptilian demi-gods.

Simplest reasonable explanation, with the fewest intuitive leaps, and least conjecture - usually the most elegant and correct answer.

IF there were such an omnipotent, omniscient, genius evil directing the affairs of humanity -
why not just go old-school Egyptian and declare themselves divine Pharoh-Emperors of the world.
Any peasants try to revolt or get out of line, we drop a little slice of Armageddon on your ass.

for their own amusement?
Really.
How long can you watch monkeys pissing on each other, flinging shit around, and giving themselves blowjobs before you get bored and decide it's time to leave the zoo?

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