I make video games. Like hell i wouldnt want to continue with this even if i won the lottery. I would start my own studio and make the games ive always dreamed of.Shahter wrote:
you may keep deluding yourself, gents, or you may as well accept the obvious: nobody, i repeat, nobody would work at the opportunity not to. anybody who tells you otherwise is brainwashed, pushig hidden agenda, or a big phat hypocrite. the examples are all over.
brainwashed people incapable of understanding a simple concept of "enough".jord wrote:
There probably are lots of people that would continue to work even if they could live comfortably without going to work. People in power, people whose job they enjoy (Footballers, pilots, doctors, Veternarians, Astronauts, CEO's, etc) wouldn't give their work up until they had to.
doing stuff you enjoy doing =/= work.Vilham wrote:
I make video games. Like hell i wouldnt want to continue with this even if i won the lottery. I would start my own studio and make the games ive always dreamed of.Shahter wrote:
you may keep deluding yourself, gents, or you may as well accept the obvious: nobody, i repeat, nobody would work at the opportunity not to. anybody who tells you otherwise is brainwashed, pushig hidden agenda, or a big phat hypocrite. the examples are all over.
For you maybe. From the sound of it, you have no career.Shahter wrote:
i had all kinds of different jobs at a number of different companies and the only thing i can really say you already put in the subject, KJ - Work Sucks. the biggest bullshit your propaganda is selling you is that work can somehow be enjoyable. give up, start being honest with yourself and stop looking for that bloody black cat in a dark room - it's not even there.
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what does "career" have to do with anything? how exactly does it make work anymore enjoyable?jsnipy wrote:
For you maybe. From the sound of it, you have no career.Shahter wrote:
i had all kinds of different jobs at a number of different companies and the only thing i can really say you already put in the subject, KJ - Work Sucks. the biggest bullshit your propaganda is selling you is that work can somehow be enjoyable. give up, start being honest with yourself and stop looking for that bloody black cat in a dark room - it's not even there.
would you call that "work" though?jsnipy wrote:
But I have to agree with you on some level. If I had no need for money to survive, I'm sure what I would be doing.
work = job = doing stuff i enjoy.Shahter wrote:
doing stuff you enjoy doing =/= work.Vilham wrote:
I make video games. Like hell i wouldnt want to continue with this even if i won the lottery. I would start my own studio and make the games ive always dreamed of.Shahter wrote:
you may keep deluding yourself, gents, or you may as well accept the obvious: nobody, i repeat, nobody would work at the opportunity not to. anybody who tells you otherwise is brainwashed, pushig hidden agenda, or a big phat hypocrite. the examples are all over.
It can if you enjoy a sense of progression and accomplishment. It gives you something to measure against, some to compare against.Shahter wrote:
what does "career" have to do with anything? how exactly does it make work anymore enjoyable?jsnipy wrote:
For you maybe. From the sound of it, you have no career.Shahter wrote:
i had all kinds of different jobs at a number of different companies and the only thing i can really say you already put in the subject, KJ - Work Sucks. the biggest bullshit your propaganda is selling you is that work can somehow be enjoyable. give up, start being honest with yourself and stop looking for that bloody black cat in a dark room - it's not even there.
tbh I'm not sure. Now that you mention it, probably notShahter wrote:
would you call that "work" though?jsnipy wrote:
But I have to agree with you on some level. If I had no need for money to survive, I'm sure what I would be doing.
I work for a NGO supporting carers of people with mental illness. It is something I am passionate about, and I've always had an interest in psychology. The work is good, the people great and most of the time it's not like I'm even at work, more like a second home.Shahter wrote:
i'm not projecting any beleafs, i'm stating an opinion. maybe i worded it badly. maybe. but tell me - how exactly your feeling of being productive is tied to your work? wouldn't you be able to find stuff to do without selling your abilities and time to some company?Jaekus wrote:
You're speaking for yourself, and projecting those beliefs onto others. Tut tut.
I've had long periods without a job. If I won a million dollars tomorrow, I'd still keep working. I enjoy my work, I feel good when I arrive and when I leave. I like the feeling of being productive with my time as it makes the free time I have more enjoyable, more worthwhile.
Call it delusion if you want, I call it a feeling of satisfied balance between my work and leisure lifestyle.
this is what i've been trying to point out. work, by definition, is something that has a sort of irrepairable part that will always leave one unsatisfied - it's the reward one gets for doing it. have you ever seen a person who'd tell you "i make enough, i don't need a raise"? i'm sure at some point we've all been told something like "what you are good at? what are your interests? make that work and bring you money!" - and this is the biggest pile o'bullshit there ever was. never ever do something you really enjoy doing for living, otherwise you are spoiling it for yourself.jsnipy wrote:
tbh I'm not sure. Now that you mention it, probably notShahter wrote:
would you call that "work" though?jsnipy wrote:
But I have to agree with you on some level. If I had no need for money to survive, I'm sure what I would be doing.
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Some people enjoy challenges. Some people enjoy building a reputation.
Shahter wrote:
brainwashed people incapable of understanding a simple concept of "enough".
Russians are inherently lazy, so this doesn't surprise me tbh.Shahter wrote:
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Some people enjoy challenges. Some people enjoy building a reputation.Shahter wrote:
brainwashed people incapable of understanding a simple concept of "enough".
how many russians do you know?Vilham wrote:
Russians are inherently lazy, so this doesn't surprise me tbh.Shahter wrote:
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Some people enjoy challenges. Some people enjoy building a reputation.Shahter wrote:
brainwashed people incapable of understanding a simple concept of "enough".
Do you actually have any personal experience to back this up or are you just talking out of your arse like normal?Shahter wrote:
never ever do something you really enjoy doing for living, otherwise you are spoiling it for yourself.jsnipy wrote:
tbh I'm not sure. Now that you mention it, probably notShahter wrote:
would you call that "work" though?
i do. so?Vilham wrote:
Do you actually have any personal experience to back this up or are you just talking out of your arse like normal?Shahter wrote:
never ever do something you really enjoy doing for living, otherwise you are spoiling it for yourself.jsnipy wrote:
tbh I'm not sure. Now that you mention it, probably not
its not like you can do anything if he doesnt watch his toneShahter wrote:
i do. so?Vilham wrote:
Do you actually have any personal experience to back this up or are you just talking out of your arse like normal?Shahter wrote:
never ever do something you really enjoy doing for living, otherwise you are spoiling it for yourself.
p.s. i suggest you start watching your tone, dude. you know jackshit about russians and you certainly know nothing at all about me.
O sorry, I thought we were writing total bullshit, my bad...Shahter wrote:
how many russians do you know?Vilham wrote:
Russians are inherently lazy, so this doesn't surprise me tbh.Shahter wrote:
Flaming_Maniac wrote:
Some people enjoy challenges. Some people enjoy building a reputation.
i got banned recently for telling g@lt to fuck off in his thread where he advocated smoking. if v continues the way he started...RTHKI wrote:
its not like you can do anything if he doesnt watch his toneShahter wrote:
i do. so?Vilham wrote:
Do you actually have any personal experience to back this up or are you just talking out of your arse like normal?
p.s. i suggest you start watching your tone, dude. you know jackshit about russians and you certainly know nothing at all about me.
when somebody comes up with a rational argument explaining how exacltly their enjoyment of doing stuff is tied to that stuff being a part of their job then we'll talk. untill then - they are brainwashed. just shut up yourself.RTHKI wrote:
you blame him for knowing jackshit about russians and you, but then you say anyone who loves their job is brainwashed, all without knowing anything about them. just shut up
Its not tied to it.when somebody comes up with a rational argument explaining how exacltly their enjoyment of doing stuff is tied to that stuff being a part of their job then we'll talk. untill then - they are brainwashed. just shut up yourself.
wat? you posted several paragraphs of stuff about yourself. none of that answers my questions, here, let me repeat them:Jaekus wrote:
I thought I already did, but seeing as your reading skills aren't up to scratch, might I suggest some further education be of use?
