Push for Florida bestiality law goes 'back to square one'

2010-05-07 15:34:27

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Marlo Stanfield: online poker tax cheating; +122|5436

From every angle, a ban on bestiality, long pushed by state prosecutors and animal rights activists, seemed poised to finally become law this year, with Republicans and Democrats in both chambers of the Florida Legislature joining forces to push it through.

Yet it failed.

The inability to outlaw something so repugnant reveals how difficult it can be to get even the most carefully crafted, widely supported bill passed in the Florida Legislature.

Its advocates say that in the political stew of a legislative session, the very outrageousness of the topic worked against it.

Lawmakers said they did not want to be accused of wasting time addressing a rare crime when Floridians needed them to help create jobs. They also did not want to debate the icky subject in public meetings occasionally frequented by children.

``I made a personal commitment last year to make sure the House would criminalize that type of disgusting, barbaric behavior,'' he said.

News reports of Floridians having sex with animals are infrequent, but draw fierce outrage all the same.

Now I've never had sex with an animal and don't plan to, but shouldn't people be allowed to sex a goat if they owned it? You know that whole libertarian thing about being allowed to do anything you want as long as it doesn't affect anyone else, doesn't that apply here? I think so. I believe people should be allowed to sex their pets or livestock if they wanted.

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2010-05-07 15:37:22

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FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6773|so randum

another bad, bad troll attempt itt.

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2010-05-07 15:40:07

#3

Marlo Stanfield: online poker tax cheating; +122|5436

FatherTed wrote:
another bad, bad troll attempt itt.

I'm actually serious this time. If it doesn't affect any other human beings why should it be illegal? I pretty brought this up before with that whole kitten stomping thing.

2010-05-07 15:43:53

#4

King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|6870|Seattle

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2010-05-07 15:45:54

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

Rep. Mary Brandenburg, D-West Palm Beach, summed up the topic's unpopularity: ``It is yucky.''

Sauce for op: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/07/1 … z0nHpGxNr7

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2010-05-07 15:56:07

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King_County_Downy: shitfaced; +2,791|6870|Seattle

Re-openned @ OP's request.

Sober enough to know what I'm doing, drunk enough to really enjoy doing it

2010-05-07 16:03:57

#7

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

The problem is that, like rape, it is usually about more than getting your rox off. It's a power thing and it often develops into more serious crimes.. like

There was the Panhandle man who sexually battered and asphyxiated a pregnant goat in 2008. In West Palm Beach, there was a man who molested his neighbor's dog in 2004. Leon County has the story of a man who sexually battered his guide dog in 2005.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/07/1 … z0nHsj5FX9

In case you have to be told, this is not normal healthy behavior. It is Psychopathic.

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2010-05-07 16:17:29

#8

Marlo Stanfield: online poker tax cheating; +122|5436

Kmarion wrote:
The problem is that, like rape, it is usually about more than getting your rox off. It's a power thing and it often develops into more serious crimes.. like
There was the Panhandle man who sexually battered and asphyxiated a pregnant goat in 2008. In West Palm Beach, there was a man who molested his neighbor's dog in 2004. Leon County has the story of a man who sexually battered his guide dog in 2005.

Read more: http://www.miamiherald.com/2010/05/07/1 … z0nHsj5FX9
In case you have to be told, this is not normal healthy behavior. It is Psychopathic.

It is less than normal behavior and might lead to more violent or derange acts on animals sure. But as long as the animal belongs to the person having sex or choking it shouldn't it be legal since the animal is that animal screwers property and there aren't other people getting hurt? Why the hell would an animal which I can legally sell, eat, or force to do labor have any sort of rights? Yes I understand that only a deranged person would sleep with a goat, but I would rather that person be allowed to act out their strange impulses on a goat they own rather than on a non-willing person.

2010-05-07 16:27:08

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

It's called animal cruelty. While it is true that you can eat and sell your livestock, you can not torture them to death and then eat them. It is inhumane, and frankly, I believe the people who feel the impulse to do that are mentally deranged.

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2010-05-07 16:28:37

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Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6379|eXtreme to the maX

Florida

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2010-05-07 16:34:40

#11

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5532|foggy bottom

black people used to be property too

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2010-05-07 16:35:37

#12

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

Dilbert_X wrote:
Florida

"News reports of Floridians having sex with animals are infrequent, but draw fierce outrage all the same."
.. infrequent as in I never hear about them. It's also probably why they aren't wasting their time with this legislation. Try looking at KY, AL, GA, or TN

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2010-05-07 16:38:33

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Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

It is currently illegal in Canada, Netherlands, most of the United States, Australia (except for the ACT), and New Zealand. In the UK, only penetrative acts are illegal. Countries such as Belgium, Germany, and Russia are somewhere in between: they permit sexual activity with animals, but prohibit the promotion of animal-oriented pornography.

lmao..srz

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2010-05-07 17:11:56

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Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5975|College Park, MD

Kmarion wrote:
It's called animal cruelty. While it is true that you can eat and sell your livestock, you can not torture them to death and then eat them. It is inhumane, and frankly, I believe the people who feel the impulse to do that are mentally deranged.

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2010-05-07 17:16:56

#15

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5451|Sydney

Marlo Stanfield wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
another bad, bad troll attempt itt.
I'm actually serious this time. If it doesn't affect any other human beings why should it be illegal? I pretty brought this up before with that whole kitten stomping thing.

You're telling me raping goats should be legal?
Are you drunk, or just messed up in the head?

2010-05-07 17:30:32

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6741

YIFF IN HELL!!!!!

2010-05-07 18:15:47

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6678|North Carolina

Wait a minute... Let me get this straight... It's currently legal in Florida to have sex with an animal?

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2010-05-08 00:02:45

#18

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,816|6379|eXtreme to the maX

Kmarion wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Florida
"News reports of Floridians having sex with animals are infrequent, but draw fierce outrage all the same."
.. infrequent as in I never hear about them. It's also probably why they aren't wasting their time with this legislation. Try looking at KY, AL, GA, or TN

Maybe its so common its not newsworthy?

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2010-05-08 00:12:30

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mikkel: Member; +383|6874

Who the hell cares? The only sensible argument in this whole debate is that it might be tantamount to animal cruelty, but animal cruelty is already against the law. If there is genuine concern as to the welfare of whichever animal finds itself the subject of lust for whatever reason, then it's already subject to prosecution if it can be proven that the animal was harmed in the process.

This reeks of legislating morality under a superficially reasonable guise.

2010-05-08 00:16:56

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ruisleipa: Member; +149|6495|teh FIN-land

Marlo Stanfield wrote:
But as long as the animal belongs to the person having sex or choking it shouldn't it be legal since the animal is that animal screwers property and there aren't other people getting hurt? Why the hell would an animal which I can legally sell, eat, or force to do labor have any sort of rights?

answers:
a) no
b) for philosophical reasons you cannot comprehend but in the case of bestiality...you're assuming the animal doesn't like it, for some reason. It's only cruelty if there's no pleasure right?

what's more interesting about the OP isn't about bestiality but the clusterfuck that is law-making procedure in big countries like the US (or really only the US in this case). Totally ridiculous, over the top strictures and one wholly ungovernable fuck up for a state/country. Dear oh dear.

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2010-05-08 00:19:39

#21

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6854|the dank(super) side of Oregon

it's obvious that humans and animals cannot properly raise children in these sick pseudo-families. This is why I'm in favor of this legislation. call me a bigot, I don't care.

2010-05-08 05:17:33

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unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,054|7045|PNW

Marlo Stanfield wrote:
If it doesn't affect any other human beings why should it be illegal?

King_County_Downy wrote:
Wrong. Wrong. Wrong.

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2010-05-09 13:17:58

#23

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

Dilbert_X wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
Florida
"News reports of Floridians having sex with animals are infrequent, but draw fierce outrage all the same."
.. infrequent as in I never hear about them. It's also probably why they aren't wasting their time with this legislation. Try looking at KY, AL, GA, or TN
Maybe its so common its not newsworthy?

Right, it's so common that I never hear about it. Think about that for a minute.

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2010-05-09 13:37:40

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Flaming_Maniac: prince of insufficient light; +2,490|6980|67.222.138.85

Kmarion wrote:
It's called animal cruelty. While it is true that you can eat and sell your livestock, you can not torture them to death and then eat them. It is inhumane, and frankly, I believe the people who feel the impulse to do that are mentally deranged.

but what does this have to do with beastiality...?

Animal cruelty is already against the law and rightly so. But you don't ban things because they could lead to breaking other laws.

2010-05-09 13:44:48

#25

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6874|132 and Bush

Marlo Stanfield wrote:
It is less than normal behavior and might lead to more violent or derange acts on animals sure. But as long as the animal belongs to the person having sex or choking it shouldn't it be legal since the animal is that animal screwers property and there aren't other people getting hurt? Why the hell would an animal which I can legally sell, eat, or force to do labor have any sort of rights? Yes I understand that only a deranged person would sleep with a goat, but I would rather that person be allowed to act out their strange impulses on a goat they own rather than on a non-willing person.

This is what I was replying to Rockstar. He was suggesting that it is ok to whatever to an animal because you own it.

I guess in Texas the animals enjoy it, and therefor consent is implied. Of course in Texas it's hard to separate the women from the cattle.

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