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ruisleipa wrote:

lowing wrote:

a conversation about racism is racist whether anyone is being racist or not???? hmmmmmmm,  glad you are on eleven bravo's, and ruis's side of this. Because I certainly could not use your kind of logic in any conversation. Be sure to stay there. ALthough I agree that those other 2 agree with you.

jesus can't you fuckin read? He never said it was RACIST he said it contains RACIAL COMMENTS which indicates your statement that you've 'never' written any 'racial comments' is clearly bollox.

Jaekus wrote:

A conversation about racism is full of racial comments whether anyone is being racist or not.

Here we see lowing's excellent tactic of taking what someone says and changing it to make it seem outrageous, without using the original point and ignoring the meaning of it. *slow handclap*

"WHETHER ANY ONE IS BEING RACIST ...........OR NOT "not sue how you read that, but the way I read it is, you can not talk about racism without being racist, I mean since he admits it, even if you are not making racist comments.

Actually eleven bravo has made similar comments

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 7#p3078897 a point, when challenged was never addressed by him.

just more of the same

Last edited by lowing (2010-05-05 03:15:57)

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

I see no need to address it because it's so far fetched is laughable ...

how convenient for you...could you at least explain why you did not voice your dictator argument when Bush was compared to a fascist?

That still doesn't make the "Obama is a fascist" argument anything short of hilariously wrong.

I posted the definition and then posted his action that is described that that definition. You saying it is weong is hardly an argument. Try disqualifying it based on the definition.

ruisleipa wrote:

lowing wrote:

"WHETHER ANY ONE IS BEING RACIST ...........OR NOT "not sue how you read that, but the way I read it is, you can not talk about racism without being racist, I mean since he admits it, even if you are not making racist comments.

http://smilies.newcastlebeats.com/smilies/ri66h2.gif

wow...riveting argument there.

lowing wrote:

Spark wrote:

lowing wrote:

how convenient for you...could you at least explain why you did not voice your dictator argument when Bush was compared to a fascist?

That still doesn't make the "Obama is a fascist" argument anything short of hilariously wrong.

I posted the definition and then posted his action that is described that that definition. You saying it is weong is hardly an argument. Try disqualifying it based on the definition.

And Kmarion fairly conclusively showed that the Obama administration does not share the characteristics of fascism, which were pretty to clear to see in places like Mussolini's Italy and to a lesser extent Hitler's Germany.

But OK

1.  often Fascism
a. A system of government marked by centralization of authority under a dictator, stringent socioeconomic controls, suppression of the opposition through terror and censorship, and typically a policy of belligerent nationalism and racism.
2. Oppressive, dictatorial control.

What I've highlighted is basically everything he is conclusively not, and even the "centralization of authority" charge is tenuous to say the least. But hey - it is a system of government.

fascism [ˈfæʃɪzəm]
n (sometimes capital)1. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology or movement inspired by Italian Fascism, such as German National Socialism; any right-wing nationalist ideology or movement with an authoritarian and hierarchical structure that is fundamentally opposed to democracy and liberalism
2. (Government, Politics & Diplomacy) any ideology, movement, programme, tendency, etc., that may be characterized as right-wing, chauvinist, authoritarian, etc.

Last edited by Spark (2010-05-05 03:39:01)

11 Bravo wrote:

ya right.  you do NOTHING but troll lowing in this section.  thats a fact.  thats all you do.  that or anti america bollocks.  go away, bigot.

troll

ruisleipa wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

ya right.  you do NOTHING but troll lowing in this section.  thats a fact.  thats all you do.  that or anti america bollocks.  go away, bigot.

troll

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11 Bravo wrote:

fag

You're REALLY helpful.

lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

lowing wrote:

The fact that I have never made a truely racial comment should be proof that I have never made a racial comment, but I know in your world that is not good enough. lol

A conversation about racism is full of racial comments, whether anyone is being racist or not.

You fail. Epically.

a conversation about racism is racist whether anyone is being racist or not???? hmmmmmmm,  glad you are on eleven bravo's, and ruis's side of this. Because I certainly could not use your kind of logic in any conversation. Be sure to stay there. ALthough I agree that those other 2 agree with you.

Oh well done. Take what I said COMPLETELY out of context and then try to construct some insipid argument from it and then draw some imaginary line in the sand like it's you vs. the world. Great work, I'm sure you're impressed with yourself.

/sarcasm

(NB: I shouldn't have to point out I'm being sarcastic, but your current track record of understanding what other people are saying compels me to do so)

Seeing as I have to spell it out for you, if I said "Obama has african ancestry", that's a racial comment. It's not a racist comment, it's a comment on his RACE.

If I said my lineage is mainly anglo-celtic, that would be a comment on my RACIAL heritage, certainly not racist.

If you're going to try to have these kinds of discussions with people it would be a good start to at least APPEAR to know what you're talking about.

11 Bravo wrote:

back on topic maybe?

11 Bravo wrote:

fag

I rest my case

You never had one to begin with, troll.

i bet you did...or somewhat eluded to it.  or lol'd/karma'd someone for saying it.  or said it with some goofy emoticon.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-05-05 04:57:00)

Ok, let's examine your last posts, to see how "on topic" you think you are.


"wtf is this shit?  even a mod joining in the BS.  troll moar jaekass.  you guys fail so hard."

"wow...riveting argument there."

"ya right.  you do NOTHING but troll lowing in this section.  thats a fact.  thats all you do.  that or anti america bollocks.  go away, bigot."

"fag"

"dont give me shit because you are 12 pages too late."

"back on topic maybe?"


This is going back three pages. As you can see, none of the posts are pertinent to the thread topic.

At best you've "tried" to post on topic without posting anything meaningful or worthwhile to contribute, a discussion you haven't even been a participant until now.. Not exactly "on topic", is it?

At worst you've thrown a couple schoolyard insults at people and complained about people discussing lowing's posts with him (I'm sure he's big enough to handle it without your worrying over him like an expectant mother). As usual, you've pulled some unimaginative racial dig at someone, this time with your little "aussie" quip. And you wonder why the forum thinks you're racist. Very mature. *yawns*
Frankly, we've all seen it before. No wonder you're on your 3rd or 4th account.
You can reply with whatever you wish, but I don't really see the point in continuing a conversation with someone as mediocre as yourself.

Jaekus wrote:

Ok, let's examine your last posts, to see how "on topic" you think you are.


"wtf is this shit?  even a mod joining in the BS.  troll moar jaekass.  you guys fail so hard."

"wow...riveting argument there."

"ya right.  you do NOTHING but troll lowing in this section.  thats a fact.  thats all you do.  that or anti america bollocks.  go away, bigot."

"fag"

"dont give me shit because you are 12 pages too late."

"back on topic maybe?"


This is going back three pages. As you can see, none of the posts are pertinent to the thread topic.

At best you've "tried" to post on topic without posting anything meaningful or worthwhile to contribute, a discussion you haven't even been a participant until now.. Not exactly "on topic", is it?

At worst you've thrown a couple schoolyard insults at people and complained about people discussing lowing's posts with him (I'm sure he's big enough to handle it without your worrying over him like an expectant mother). As usual, you've pulled some unimaginative racial dig at someone, this time with your little "aussie" quip. And you wonder why the forum thinks you're racist. Very mature. *yawns*
Frankly, we've all seen it before. No wonder you're on your 3rd or 4th account.
You can reply with whatever you wish, but I don't really see the point in continuing a conversation with someone as mediocre as yourself.

and this thread went to shit by you guys way before that.  are you really that blind?  aussie is a race?  i said that because this section has a long line of aussie trolls v lowing.  you, bubbles, AR, dogebert, etc.  derp derp.  back to the short bus, son.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-05-05 05:06:08)