Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6906|London, England

JohnG@lt wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

SWAT teams have been deployed on rigs in the Gulf of Mexico now... so perhaps foul play/terrorism. But, they say the same thing whenever a plane crashes now too.
probably not the eco-terrorists.
Seems perfectly in line with what a group like ELF would do...
It happened on Earth day (the explosion)

I think we're onto something here, bf2s
Pug
UR father's brother's nephew's former roommate
+652|6827|Texas - Bigger than France

jord wrote:

Is there a way to salvage this oil and make profits?
Yes, I have a client out there right now doing just that.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5987|College Park, MD

Mekstizzle wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:


probably not the eco-terrorists.
Seems perfectly in line with what a group like ELF would do...
It happened on Earth day (the explosion)

I think we're onto something here, bf2s
Get Jack Bauer on the line.
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Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6906|London, England

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


Seems perfectly in line with what a group like ELF would do...
It happened on Earth day (the explosion)

I think we're onto something here, bf2s
Get Jack Bauer on the line.
24 has gone on for long enough, they've probably made him go rogue by now against the now-evil government (as opposed to the then-good government, if you get me)
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5987|College Park, MD

Mekstizzle wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

Mekstizzle wrote:

It happened on Earth day (the explosion)

I think we're onto something here, bf2s
Get Jack Bauer on the line.
24 has gone on for long enough, they've probably made him go rogue by now against the now-evil government (as opposed to the then-good government, if you get me)
that's happened like 9 times already

but it was never fo realz, y'nahmean?

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2010-04-30 08:48:46)

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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6960|Canberra, AUS

JohnG@lt wrote:

Trotskygrad wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:


SWAT teams have been deployed on rigs in the Gulf of Mexico now... so perhaps foul play/terrorism. But, they say the same thing whenever a plane crashes now too.
probably not the eco-terrorists.
Seems perfectly in line with what a group like ELF would do...
i doubt it's true.

but if it is then the environmental movement just took another reputational battering in my eyes.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Reciprocity
Member
+721|6866|the dank(super) side of Oregon
who cares?  This is just part of the cost of pumping poison out of the ground.
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6507|teh FIN-land

Reciprocity wrote:

who cares?  This is just part of the cost of pumping poison out of the ground.
yes it is but that means we SHOULD care surely?
thraSK
Best ___ in Aus
+57|6267
I would be more concerned about that gigantic orange eel in OP's picture. Surely that must be like the longest living eel in existence? I surrender to the king of eels. In the spirit of the Icelandic naming convention, I name him Ilkdyforksopingkyll; the harvester of sorrow.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

ruisleipa wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

who cares?  This is just part of the cost of pumping poison out of the ground.
yes it is but that means we SHOULD care surely?
I think he's being sarcastic.  He's probably making fun of how a lot of people don't care despite the dangers of offshore drilling.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio
keep crying about oil guys.  you sound stupid.  kind of like complaining about a slaughter house while eating a burger.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

keep crying about oil guys.  you sound stupid.  kind of like complaining about a slaughter house while eating a burger.
Ah yes...  apathy...  that's always the best answer.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

keep crying about oil guys.  you sound stupid.  kind of like complaining about a slaughter house while eating a burger.
Ah yes...  apathy...  that's always the best answer.
unless you are oil free please hush
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

keep crying about oil guys.  you sound stupid.  kind of like complaining about a slaughter house while eating a burger.
Ah yes...  apathy...  that's always the best answer.
unless you are oil free please hush
Well, I suppose that means we should stop caring about the environment too, since none of us are trash free.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:


Ah yes...  apathy...  that's always the best answer.
unless you are oil free please hush
Well, I suppose that means we should stop caring about the environment too, since none of us are trash free.
dont be stupid.  do you hear me crying aboot a landfill?
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:


unless you are oil free please hush
Well, I suppose that means we should stop caring about the environment too, since none of us are trash free.
dont be stupid.  do you hear me crying aboot a landfill?
Of course not...  You instead cry about other people being "stupid", since you rarely have anything to offer about any debate.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio
ok...i said you sound stupid and gave the reason why.  seems quite reasonable imo.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

ok...i said you sound stupid and gave the reason why.  seems quite reasonable imo.
And I showed you why your logic fails.  Just because we consume oil currently doesn't mean we can't be interested in moving away from it.  By the way, I do drive a fuel efficient vehicle and travel rarely.  My commute is much shorter than the average American's, and when possible, I carpool.

So, it's not like I'm not doing my part to consume less.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio
same with me.  i do have shitloads of plastic though....

and my logic still stands.  it doesnt fail.  if you have products that are made by or use oil, the analogy fits.

Last edited by 11 Bravo (2010-05-01 11:05:28)

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5643|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

ok...i said you sound stupid and gave the reason why.  seems quite reasonable imo.
And I showed you why your logic fails.  Just because we consume oil currently doesn't mean we can't be interested in moving away from it.  By the way, I do drive a fuel efficient vehicle and travel rarely.  My commute is much shorter than the average American's, and when possible, I carpool.

So, it's not like I'm not doing my part to consume less.
He's talking about the hypocrisy inherent in most causeheads. It's a completely valid argument, he's just rather course in the way he presents it
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

same with me.  i do have shitloads of plastic though....

and my logic still stands.  it doesnt fail.  if you have products that are made by or use oil, the analogy fits.
I know there's one issue you do seem to care about.  You posted a thread a while back about how most modern food has a lot of shit in it.  You shared a clip from Food Inc., I believe.

It was a good thread, and I don't recall anyone trying to put down your concern because of perceived consumption of the agricorp food on your part.

However, if we use your logic, then unless you consume only organic food that isn't produced by these big businesses, then you shouldn't "cry" about the shit that's in your food.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

JohnG@lt wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

ok...i said you sound stupid and gave the reason why.  seems quite reasonable imo.
And I showed you why your logic fails.  Just because we consume oil currently doesn't mean we can't be interested in moving away from it.  By the way, I do drive a fuel efficient vehicle and travel rarely.  My commute is much shorter than the average American's, and when possible, I carpool.

So, it's not like I'm not doing my part to consume less.
He's talking about the hypocrisy inherent in most causeheads. It's a completely valid argument, he's just rather course in the way he presents it
Well, admittedly, the people who claim to care about the environment but drive SUVs are rather humorous.
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5522|Cleveland, Ohio

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

same with me.  i do have shitloads of plastic though....

and my logic still stands.  it doesnt fail.  if you have products that are made by or use oil, the analogy fits.
I know there's one issue you do seem to care about.  You posted a thread a while back about how most modern food has a lot of shit in it.  You shared a clip from Food Inc., I believe.

It was a good thread, and I don't recall anyone trying to put down your concern because of perceived consumption of the agricorp food on your part.

However, if we use your logic, then unless you consume only organic food that isn't produced by these big businesses, then you shouldn't "cry" about the shit that's in your food.
is the oil in the gulf going to kill you?
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5643|London, England

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

same with me.  i do have shitloads of plastic though....

and my logic still stands.  it doesnt fail.  if you have products that are made by or use oil, the analogy fits.
I know there's one issue you do seem to care about.  You posted a thread a while back about how most modern food has a lot of shit in it.  You shared a clip from Food Inc., I believe.

It was a good thread, and I don't recall anyone trying to put down your concern because of perceived consumption of the agricorp food on your part.

However, if we use your logic, then unless you consume only organic food that isn't produced by these big businesses, then you shouldn't "cry" about the shit that's in your food.
Well, if you have a choice, and you fail to make the 'correct' decision you do lose your right to bitch. Currently there isn't an alternative to using oil. Even if you moved next to a nuclear power plant to assure that your power is not from fossil fuels, the car you drive still contains a lot of oil derived plastics and foams. So... congratulations, you maintain your right to bitch because there is no alternative short of riding a horse or walking
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6690|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

11 Bravo wrote:

same with me.  i do have shitloads of plastic though....

and my logic still stands.  it doesnt fail.  if you have products that are made by or use oil, the analogy fits.
I know there's one issue you do seem to care about.  You posted a thread a while back about how most modern food has a lot of shit in it.  You shared a clip from Food Inc., I believe.

It was a good thread, and I don't recall anyone trying to put down your concern because of perceived consumption of the agricorp food on your part.

However, if we use your logic, then unless you consume only organic food that isn't produced by these big businesses, then you shouldn't "cry" about the shit that's in your food.
is the oil in the gulf going to kill you?
Not directly, but it can kill fishing markets and tourism markets.  The tourism doesn't affect me, but if I lived in that area and worked in that industry, it would.  As for fishing, it does affect me in the long run by driving up seafood costs.  Plus, there is the danger of some of the affected seafood still making it to market -- which could definitely affect me if I ate some of it.

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