BF2S Forums Arizona passes controversial illegal immigration bill

ATG wrote:

Actually, the local cops have been told to not do the feds job, prior to this. A cop would pull somebody over who was speeding, he would write a ticket to a person who was using a stolen i.d. who would never appear in court.

Driving without a license is a crime.
Driving without insurance is a crime.
Identity theft is a crime.

I agree, cops don't need a shit system like this. Arizona, Texas and soon Utah are simply pointing out that the epic failure of the feds is no longer acceptable.

The SLCPD’s own data shows that in 2008 44.25% of the crime in Salt Lake City was committed by Hispanics. To verify this, I contacted BCI which had the total crime in Salt Lake City as 46.78% with 81.82% of the murders and 75% of rapes being committed by Hispanics (see attached spreadsheet).

http://steveu.com/blog/2009/07/illegal- … civil.html

What that means is that we now have a crisis that is ripping this country apart.

81.82% of the homicides in Utah, where I am moving, are committed by hispanic illegal aliens.

My main gripe with you has always been that you equate hispanic to illegal.  You read 44.25% of crime was committed by hispanics, you equate it to illegals. That's what I gather when you say the cops aren't doing the federal governments job.  Or is it the federal govt's responsibility to make sure hispanics don't commit crimes?

Then you take a stat that shows 81.82% of murders were committed by hispanics and you say:

ATG wrote:

81.82% of the homicides in Utah, where I am moving, are committed by hispanic illegal aliens

I don't give a fuck if your wife is Mexican, you are a bigot.

ATG wrote:

rawls2 wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Are you guys blind to the notion that we're not getting these hard working, educated people that are just looking for a fair shot in the U.S?

The people who are coming over are living in shanty towns up and down our land and equivalent to Gypsies. They work our food industry jobs with third world country ailments, they get weapons and rob or sell drugs. They are not these law abiding citizens who just want to work hard for low wages. Why can't you understand that?

YOU have to understand your stupid. No way in hell are the majority of illegal Mexicans criminals the way you describe them, just no way. Your just jumping on whatever FOX news has got on TV right now. And anyone even mentioning actually going out and shooting these people is really really sad and retarded. Put your balls where your mouths are and go use illegals as target practice, don't just talk about it.

See? This is why this thread will be a waste of time place to vent



Nobody fucking said shoot the illegals.

Illegals are shooting at us, kidnapping, robbing and sucking public services.


We are asking the federal government to do its fucking job as defined by the constitution.


Uphold the law. If anything, if they fail, then that will lead to more shooting.


Uphold the law.

Sure being an illegal immigrant isn't exactly the same as murdering someone. A crime is still a fucking crime. I don't think anyone on BF2s is calling for a witch hunt for illegal immigrants, just that either A) More secure borders, and make them follow the rules like every single other immigrant in the states (and legal mexican immigrants get a terrible rep) or B) Make an immigration and trade agreement with Mexico (such as AUS-NZ agreements).

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

ATG wrote:

Actually, the local cops have been told to not do the feds job, prior to this. A cop would pull somebody over who was speeding, he would write a ticket to a person who was using a stolen i.d. who would never appear in court.

Driving without a license is a crime.
Driving without insurance is a crime.
Identity theft is a crime.

I agree, cops don't need a shit system like this. Arizona, Texas and soon Utah are simply pointing out that the epic failure of the feds is no longer acceptable.

The SLCPD’s own data shows that in 2008 44.25% of the crime in Salt Lake City was committed by Hispanics. To verify this, I contacted BCI which had the total crime in Salt Lake City as 46.78% with 81.82% of the murders and 75% of rapes being committed by Hispanics (see attached spreadsheet).

http://steveu.com/blog/2009/07/illegal- … civil.html

What that means is that we now have a crisis that is ripping this country apart.

81.82% of the homicides in Utah, where I am moving, are committed by hispanic illegal aliens.

My main gripe with you has always been that you equate hispanic to illegal.  You read 44.25% of crime was committed by hispanics, you equate it to illegals. That's what I gather when you say the cops aren't doing the federal governments job.  Or is it the federal govt's responsibility to make sure hispanics don't commit crimes?

Then you take a stat that shows 81.82% of murders were committed by hispanics and you say:

ATG wrote:

81.82% of the homicides in Utah, where I am moving, are committed by hispanic illegal aliens

I don't give a fuck if your wife is Mexican, you are a bigot.

but ken, all mexicans are illegal immigrants. Just like all blacks are african americans.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

ATG wrote:

Actually, the local cops have been told to not do the feds job, prior to this. A cop would pull somebody over who was speeding, he would write a ticket to a person who was using a stolen i.d. who would never appear in court.

Driving without a license is a crime.
Driving without insurance is a crime.
Identity theft is a crime.

I agree, cops don't need a shit system like this. Arizona, Texas and soon Utah are simply pointing out that the epic failure of the feds is no longer acceptable.

The SLCPD’s own data shows that in 2008 44.25% of the crime in Salt Lake City was committed by Hispanics. To verify this, I contacted BCI which had the total crime in Salt Lake City as 46.78% with 81.82% of the murders and 75% of rapes being committed by Hispanics (see attached spreadsheet).

http://steveu.com/blog/2009/07/illegal- … civil.html

What that means is that we now have a crisis that is ripping this country apart.

81.82% of the homicides in Utah, where I am moving, are committed by hispanic illegal aliens.

My main gripe with you has always been that you equate hispanic to illegal.  You read 44.25% of crime was committed by hispanics, you equate it to illegals. That's what I gather when you say the cops aren't doing the federal governments job.  Or is it the federal govt's responsibility to make sure hispanics don't commit crimes?

Then you take a stat that shows 81.82% of murders were committed by hispanics and you say:

ATG wrote:

81.82% of the homicides in Utah, where I am moving, are committed by hispanic illegal aliens

I don't give a fuck if your wife is Mexican, you are a bigot.

Guess you did read the state senators article. Those are not by stats bud.


Even if the number of hispanics that are illegal is 25% it is a number in the millions of people.


You are okay with a system that exploits illegals aliens. You are okay with double standards in law enforcment and business law. Or, you are okay with anarchy and lawlessness.

Or is it that you like your boss hiring illegals to clean your office toilets for shit money?

Your parents likely have your lawn kept by illegal alien gardeners, who the fuck are you kidding?


I challenge you kenny. Go ask your parents gardeners for a drivers license. Post it.

If I am a racist, you sir are an ignorant fool.



It aint just my wife. It my kids you idiot. They are part hispanic.



Here's another challenge; go to any random home depot and give me a rough count on the numbers of asains, slavs, jews, middle eastern or eskimos standing around.



You know what else I do?


I use e verify to make sure the documents my workers provide aren't phony. If they are, fuck them. I would rather close my business than be part of the exploitation and rape of this country.


Btw, I fly out next month on the 11th. California is a lost cause, ruined by brain dead politicians, capitalist exploiters, sissy white douches who don't want to work and illegal aliens.

Say goodbye to another business bud. I did over one million in 2006 and I am out. I aint talking shit, I have started the process and invested the money.


Havig fun watching this paradise implode. People like you ruined it.


Weighing all odds, there is no reason to run a business here, besides the weather. You know it. Ask any of your spoiled south county associates.


You can't eat the weather or use it for gas in your vehicle.


RIP California. Died of apathy and stupidity.

Lol okay. Those gutters on the buildings everywhere you look are just for dressing.


I am slammed with work. I will do 12k this week in sales.


Iam am leaving anyway.


Will fax 11 the work orders and copies of deposit slips as proof upon request.

He employs Spanish people so he can make money. Maybe I am being ridiculous.

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Kmarion wrote:

Who here has been to Mexico? Mexico has been making foreigners carry papers for as long as I can remember. Their immigration laws are harsher than ours, and they enforce them.

Mexico is issuing a travel alert over Arizona's new immigration law. If I lived in Arizona I wouldn't be the least bit phased.

I would be perfectly fine with adopting the exact same laws Mexico uses towards its 'foreigners'.

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

i'm so confused as to why Mexico is pissed off about this law

why don't they take better care of their country so that their citizens don't consider living as clandestine, illegal residents in another country?

Because illegal immigration is a fantastic source of income for Mexico. Between the coyotes hired by those wanting to cross the border, and those that work in America with the intention of sending or bringing the money that they make home with them, it means billions of dollars for their otherwise third world economy.

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

i'm so confused as to why Mexico is pissed off about this law

why don't they take better care of their country so that their citizens don't consider living as clandestine, illegal residents in another country?

Because Mexican citizens legally traveling in AZ can be pulled over because....THEY LOOK LIKE THEY ARE MEXICAN.

I'm curious as to how an illegal looks any different than anyone else?  Scarlet letter time?

JohnG@lt wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

i'm so confused as to why Mexico is pissed off about this law

why don't they take better care of their country so that their citizens don't consider living as clandestine, illegal residents in another country?

Because illegal immigration is a fantastic source of income for Mexico. Between the coyotes hired by those wanting to cross the border, and those that work in America with the intention of sending or bringing the money that they make home with them, it means billions of dollars for their otherwise third world economy.

Yep, because only illegals send money back.

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

i'm so confused as to why Mexico is pissed off about this law

why don't they take better care of their country so that their citizens don't consider living as clandestine, illegal residents in another country?

Because illegal immigration is a fantastic source of income for Mexico. Between the coyotes hired by those wanting to cross the border, and those that work in America with the intention of sending or bringing the money that they make home with them, it means billions of dollars for their otherwise third world economy.

Yep, because only illegals send money back.

They're generally the ones that plan on returning home. Those that seek citizenship in the US plan on staying.

ATG wrote:

eleven bravo wrote:

his wife is 1/16th mexican.  dont be ridiculous.

Dude, I know what you are trying to do. You want me to call you a bastard anchor baby. .

I see what you did there

















I would take anything you say a little more serious if you just werent so proud of your 8th grade education




















Im certainly not going to call a you a failure of a provider and coward

Last edited by eleven bravo (2010-04-28 15:19:52)