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"Locklear complained that she and her children are "disadvantaged" because her son is not able to "move around on the Web like he likes and needed to" to complete school assignments:"





Townhall
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In 2009, the average price of dial-up internet–as Ms. Locklear claimed to have been “stuck with”–in the U.S. was $26.60.  A little research shows that in the Pembroke, NC, area however, Locklear has access to both cable and satellite internet providers at costs starting at $29.99/month.  For a difference of a few dollars, she insists the FCC come to the rescue to provide “fast, affordable and open” internet access for her and her community.

Maybe she could give up a cheeseburger a month and save the 3 dollars she needs for her kids future?
Are they entitled to fast internet or not?
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eleven bravo
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eventually, just like TV signals
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Turquoise
O Canada
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Broadband (or even dialup) isn't a right.

Granted, there are some countries that have managed to make it a very affordable and effective service (South Korea for one).

Either way, this is bullshit.

EDIT:  I pay a lot more than her for broadband, by the way.  She really needs to STFU about the price.

Last edited by Turquoise (2010-04-13 15:20:26)

Flecco
iPod is broken.
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Turquoise wrote:

Broadband (or even dialup) isn't a right.

Granted, there are some countries that have managed to make it a very affordable and effective service (South Korea for one).

Either way, this is bullshit.

EDIT:  I pay a lot more than her for broadband, by the way.  She really needs to STFU about the price.
South Korea, Japan and the Scandanavian countries that have done that aren't exactly HUGE, so don't have to run fibre optic lines as far as say, the USA, Brazil or Australia to get the same penetration of extremely fast internets.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
11 Bravo
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Flecco wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Broadband (or even dialup) isn't a right.

Granted, there are some countries that have managed to make it a very affordable and effective service (South Korea for one).

Either way, this is bullshit.

EDIT:  I pay a lot more than her for broadband, by the way.  She really needs to STFU about the price.
South Korea, Japan and the Scandanavian countries that have done that aren't exactly HUGE, so don't have to run fibre optic lines as far as say, the USA, Brazil or Australia to get the same penetration of extremely fast internets.
yup.  but then turq would cry aboot the price due to the amount of work it would take.
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
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Her son is probably over weight and his games lagg out.

Is that Eric Cartmans real life mom?
Jay
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Man, every time the Democrats want to push part of their agenda they break out these sob stories and try to bombard people with arguments based on emotion rather than logic. It makes me sick.
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cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
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Dem and rep do the same..
Jay
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

Dem and rep do the same..
I haven't seen Republicans do it nearly as much. Every time I see an argument pushed and backed by emotion rather than logic and reason it makes me A) automatically take the opposing position and B) tied into A, makes me think they're trying to pull the wool over my eyes and blind me because they are lying about their stated intentions.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6981|NJ
The war on terror?

It's very backed by emotion rather then logic, that's why we have tons of over lapping agencies.
seymorebutts443
Ready for combat
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JohnG@lt wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Dem and rep do the same..
I haven't seen Republicans do it nearly as much. Every time I see an argument pushed and backed by emotion rather than logic and reason it makes me A) automatically take the opposing position and B) tied into A, makes me think they're trying to pull the wool over my eyes and blind me because they are lying about their stated intentions.
they still do it though.
FEOS
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cpt.fass1 wrote:

The war on terror?

It's very backed by emotion rather then logic, that's why we have tons of over lapping agencies.
ORLY? Do tell...

As to the scope argument: interesting that it's applied and seemingly accepted out of hand here, but totally ignored/blown off in other discussions where it's just as applicable (health care, etc).
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Spark
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JohnG@lt wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

Dem and rep do the same..
I haven't seen Republicans do it nearly as much. Every time I see an argument pushed and backed by emotion rather than logic and reason it makes me A) automatically take the opposing position and B) tied into A, makes me think they're trying to pull the wool over my eyes and blind me because they are lying about their stated intentions.
That's a slightly odd reaction. You should only accept or hold a position because it itself is logically sound. It has nothing to do with the flaws or emotionality of distastefulness of anything else.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
mikkel
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FEOS wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

The war on terror?

It's very backed by emotion rather then logic, that's why we have tons of over lapping agencies.
ORLY? Do tell...
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6696|'Murka

mikkel wrote:

FEOS wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

The war on terror?

It's very backed by emotion rather then logic, that's why we have tons of over lapping agencies.
ORLY? Do tell...
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Still waiting.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
mikkel
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FEOS wrote:

mikkel wrote:

FEOS wrote:


ORLY? Do tell...
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … er.svg.png
Still waiting.
To the surprise of no one.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6696|'Murka

mikkel wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Still waiting.
To the surprise of no one.
No reason to be bitchy. Just produce the example of emotion-based overlapping agencies due to the war on terror.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
mikkel
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FEOS wrote:

mikkel wrote:

FEOS wrote:


Still waiting.
To the surprise of no one.
No reason to be bitchy. Just produce the example of emotion-based overlapping agencies due to the war on terror.
Bitchy? FEOS, I'm merely responding in kind. The post you replied to, and the post which it was in reply to, covered the subject of appealing to emotion in politics. If you specifically want elaboration on a casual inference made in a post, then you ought to be specific about what you want elaborated.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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mikkel wrote:

FEOS wrote:

mikkel wrote:


To the surprise of no one.
No reason to be bitchy. Just produce the example of emotion-based overlapping agencies due to the war on terror.
Bitchy? FEOS, I'm merely responding in kind. The post you replied to, and the post which it was in reply to, covered the subject of appealing to emotion in politics. If you specifically want elaboration on a casual inference made in a post, then you ought to be specific about what you want elaborated.
I was as specific as need be, given the context of the entire post-string, mikkel. Don't even pretend you didn't know what was intended.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6691|North Carolina

11 Bravo wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Broadband (or even dialup) isn't a right.

Granted, there are some countries that have managed to make it a very affordable and effective service (South Korea for one).

Either way, this is bullshit.

EDIT:  I pay a lot more than her for broadband, by the way.  She really needs to STFU about the price.
South Korea, Japan and the Scandanavian countries that have done that aren't exactly HUGE, so don't have to run fibre optic lines as far as say, the USA, Brazil or Australia to get the same penetration of extremely fast internets.
yup.  but then turq would cry aboot the price due to the amount of work it would take.
The only complaints I have about price involve the lack of competition in my area.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6691|North Carolina

FEOS wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

The war on terror?

It's very backed by emotion rather then logic, that's why we have tons of over lapping agencies.
ORLY? Do tell...

As to the scope argument: interesting that it's applied and seemingly accepted out of hand here, but totally ignored/blown off in other discussions where it's just as applicable (health care, etc).
The War on Terror is very ironic.  It garners support by convincing the masses that there's something to be afraid of.

For example, invading Iraq was partially supported by people linking it to 9/11, even though clearly Saddam wasn't involved in that.  People were so fearful after 9/11 that you could've probably suggested that Canada was responsible, and you'd have public support for invading them too.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Turquoise wrote:

FEOS wrote:

cpt.fass1 wrote:

The war on terror?

It's very backed by emotion rather then logic, that's why we have tons of over lapping agencies.
ORLY? Do tell...

As to the scope argument: interesting that it's applied and seemingly accepted out of hand here, but totally ignored/blown off in other discussions where it's just as applicable (health care, etc).
The War on Terror is very ironic.  It garners support by convincing the masses that there's something to be afraid of.

For example, invading Iraq was partially supported by people linking it to 9/11, even though clearly Saddam wasn't involved in that.  People were so fearful after 9/11 that you could've probably suggested that Canada was responsible, and you'd have public support for invading them too.
That's a stretch. Quite a stretch. All war efforts garner emotional support from the masses, regardless of the moniker bestowed upon them, so it's rather a poor example of uniqueness driving overlapping agencies.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
cpt.fass1
The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n
+329|6981|NJ
CIA, FBI, Home land security and there are more I just can't think of them right now. Majority of these agency that have recently been created are a knee jerk reaction to 9/11 and fear mongering. 

Bottom line is you now have alot of salaries and a bigger government that we'll never be able to get rid of. Considering that they're based on "if nothing happens, we obviously doing our job. But we can NOT disclose what we have prevented", not based on "Ok here are the things that we have actually stopped".

I need to start an Anti suicide for children group. Where people pay me lots of money to have a 90% sucess rate, that way I make lots of money and if a kid kills himselves I can say that was part of the 10%.

Last edited by cpt.fass1 (2010-04-15 09:32:47)

Jay
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+2,006|5644|London, England

cpt.fass1 wrote:

CIA, FBI, Home land security and there are more I just can't think of them right now. Majority of these agency that have recently been created are a knee jerk reaction to 9/11 and fear mongering. 

Bottom line is you now have alot of salaries and a bigger government that we'll never be able to get rid of. Considering that they're based on "if nothing happens, we obviously doing our job. But we can NOT disclose what we have prevented", not based on "Ok here are the things that we have actually stopped".

I need to start an Anti suicide for children group. Where people pay me lots of money to have a 90% sucess rate, that way I make lots of money and if a kid kills himselves I can say that was part of the 10%.
The 1947 National Security Act established the CIA.
The FBI was established in 1908 as the Bureau of Investigation (BOI). Its name was changed to the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI) in 1935.


Homeland Security...

Agencies:

    * United States Citizenship and Immigration Services – Processes citizenship, residency, and asylum requests from foreigners
This one has been around (albeit as the INS) since 1891 or 1924 depending on where you view the start point.

    * U.S. Customs and Border Protection – Staff border checkpoints, collect tariffs, and patrol the border
"Responding to an urgent need for revenue following the American Revolutionary War, the First United States Congress passed, and President George Washington, signed the Tariff Act of July 4, 1789, which authorized the collection of duties on imported goods. Four weeks later, on July 31, the fifth act of Congress established the United States Customs Service and its ports of entry."

    * U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement – Long-term investigations of border violations
ICE is rather redundant.

    * Transportation Security Administration – Responsible for aviation security (domestic and international, most notably conducting passenger screenings at airports), as well as land and water transportation security
Created in response to 9/11, so one so far...

    * United States Coast Guard – Maritime security, national defense, maritime mobility, and protection of natural resources (assigned to Department of the Navy during times of war or at the president's direction)
"Founded by Alexander Hamilton as the Revenue Cutter Service on 4 August 1790, it lays claim to being the United States' oldest continuous seagoing service."

    * Federal Emergency Management Agency – Disaster preparedness, response, and recovery
Created by Presidential Order on 1 April 1979.

    * United States Secret Service – Protective services for important officials and protection of the U.S. currency
"With a reported one third of the currency in circulation being counterfeit, the Secret Service was commissioned on July 5, 1865, in Washington, D.C. as the "Secret Service Division" of the Department of the Treasury and was originally tasked with the suppression of counterfeiting."



All easily found on wikipedia. In short, you don't have a fucking clue as to what you are talking about.
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Hurricane2k9
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I don't really see the issue with cheaper and widespread broadband access.
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