lowing
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This was sent to me via e-mail:

"Finally.............It is Said Publicly.
>          I have never seen the white side explained better!
>
>
>       Pat Buchanan had the guts to say it.
>   It is about time.
>                     BUCHANAN  TO  OBAMA
>                            By  Patrick J.  Buchanan
>
>                     Barack says we need to have a  conversation about race
> in America .. Fair enough.. But this time, it has to be a two-way
> conversation.. White America needs to be heard from,  not just lectured
> to... This time, the Silent Majority needs to have its  convictions,
> grievances and demands heard. And among them are  these:
>
>                     First,  America has been the best country on earth for
> black folks. It was here that  600,000 black people, brought from Africa in
> slave ships, grew into a  community of 40 million, were introduced to
> Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and
> prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and
> thank God he is an American.
>
>                     Second, no people anywhere has done more to lift up
> blacks than white Americans.  Untold trillions have been spent since the '
> 60s on welfare, food stamps, rent supplements, Section 8 housing, Pell
> grants, student loans,  legal services, Medicaid, Earned Income Tax Credits
> and poverty programs designed to bring the African-American community into
> the mainstream.  Governments, businesses and colleges have engaged in
> discrimination against white folks -- with affirmative action, contract
> set-asides and quotas -- to advance black applicants over white applicants.
> Churches, foundations, civic groups, schools and individuals all over
> America have donated their time and money to support soup kitchens, adult
> education, day care, retirement and nursing homes for blacks.
>
>                     We hear the  grievances.
>                      Where is the gratitude??
>
>                     Barack talks about new 'ladders of opportunity' for
> blacks. Let him go to Altoona?  And Johnstown, and ask the white kids in
> Catholic schools how many were visited lately by Ivy League recruiters
> handing out scholarships for 'deserving' white kids.? Is white America
> really responsible for the fact that the crime and incarceration rates for
> African-Americans are seven times those of white America?  Is it really
> white America's fault that illegitimacy in the African-American community
> has hit 70 percent and the black dropout rate from high schools in some
> cities has reached 50 percent?
>
>                     Is that the fault of white America or, first and
> foremost, a failure of the black community itself?
>
>                     As for racism, its ugliest manifestation is in
> interracial crime, and especially interracial crimes of violence. Is Barack
> Obama aware that while white criminals choose black victims 3 percent of the
> time, black criminals choose white victims 45 percent of the time?
>
>                     Is Barack aware  that black-on-white rapes are 100 times
> more common than the reverse, that black-on-white robberies were 139 times
> as common in the first  three years of this decade as the reverse?
>
>                     We have all heard ad nauseam from the Rev. Al  about
> Tawana Brawley, the Duke rape case and Jena. And all turned out to be
> hoaxes. But about the epidemic of black assaults on whites that are real, we
> hear nothing.
>
>                     Sorry, Barack, some of us have heard it all before,
> about 40 years and 40 trillion tax dollars ago."



and yeah it has been snopes verified, sorry.
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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Are you serious about this racist trash?

lowing by proxy wrote:

>                     First,  America has been the best country on earth for
> black folks. It was here that  600,000 black people, brought from Africa in
> slave ships, grew into a  community of 40 million, were introduced to
> Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and
> prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and
> thank God he is an American.
If you're really defending this I don't see how it's a serious violation of rule #2.
Marlo Stanfield
online poker tax cheating
+122|5164
Um do you want a thank you or something for what your ancestors did?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6652|USA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Are you serious about this racist trash?
What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6652|USA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Are you serious about this racist trash?

lowing by proxy wrote:

>                     First,  America has been the best country on earth for
> black folks. It was here that  600,000 black people, brought from Africa in
> slave ships, grew into a  community of 40 million, were introduced to
> Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and
> prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and
> thank God he is an American.
If you're really defending this I don't see how it's a serious violation of rule #2.
You mean there is another nation with a population of blacks the size that America has that prospered more than in America? Do tell
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6469
Posting chain e-mails in DST is worst than posting the crap out of the mouth of Glenn Beck (who might be a murderer/rapist, I'm not saying I;m just asking questions).

Though it is better than Alex Jones and his conspiracy leejin.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6708|67.222.138.85
Oh my fucking god are you going to gloss over the hypocritical, utterly inhumane enslavement of the black race for over 100 years in America in order to back up arguments against present-day reverse racism?

I find saying America is the best thing that ever happened to black people extremely offensive.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6652|USA

Marlo Stanfield wrote:

Um do you want a thank you or something for what your ancestors did?
My ancestors didn't do shit. They were not rich did not own land or slaves. you seem to forget it was the elite that were slave owners not middle America
ATG
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lowing wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Are you serious about this racist trash?
What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
Because he disagrees with it.


He doesn't ask if blacks have a better standard of living here or not, just condemns what you say.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6708|67.222.138.85
Who did it has nothing to fucking do with it. The fact is it happened, even if there is no retroactive compensation to say America is awesome for "bringing up" the black man is so ASTOUNDINGLY ignorant it enters the territory of racist.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6652|USA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Oh my fucking god are you going to gloss over the hypocritical, utterly inhumane enslavement of the black race for over 100 years in America in order to back up arguments against present-day reverse racism?

I find saying America is the best thing that ever happened to black people extremely offensive.
Hmmm  the US didn't bring slaves here Europeans did. and 80 years later a war was fought that freed them. They were slaves under European rule a hell of a lot longer than they were under the USA
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|6708|67.222.138.85
I'm not talking about Europe, don't pull that crap. We're talking about what WE did, using the excuse "they did it too" is ridiculously juvenile.

For fuck's sake they were treated as 3/5s of a person in the original writing of our Constitution. It's not like we didn't know better, it was just more convenient.

ATG wrote:

lowing wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Are you serious about this racist trash?
What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
Because he disagrees with it.


He doesn't ask if blacks have a better standard of living here or not, just condemns what you say.
jesus titty fucking christ you too? You are seriously going to say that just because blacks have achieved 1/10th the prosperity of whites as the nation's wealth has sky-rocketed that it was okay we denied them right for hundreds of years?
lowing
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Who did it has nothing to fucking do with it. The fact is it happened, even if there is no retroactive compensation to say America is awesome for "bringing up" the black man is so ASTOUNDINGLY ignorant it enters the territory of racist.
The point being the US spent trillions of dollars acknowledging and correcting a great wrong. To the point that "reverse" discrimination has set in. Any other country doing that?

Has any European country done as much. I mean since Europeans are the ones that are guilty to a greater degree.
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+794|6686|United States of America

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Are you serious about this racist trash?

lowing by proxy wrote:

>                     First,  America has been the best country on earth for
> black folks. It was here that  600,000 black people, brought from Africa in
> slave ships, grew into a  community of 40 million, were introduced to
> Christian salvation, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and
> prosperity blacks have ever known. Wright ought to go down on his knees and
> thank God he is an American.
If you're really defending this I don't see how it's a serious violation of rule #2.
We can fix that, FM.


   First,  America has been the best country on earth for
> black folks. It was here that  600,000 black people, brought from Africa in
> slave ships and treated as slaves for generations, and only beginning to achieve racial equality ~150 years after the international slave trade ended and 100 years after slavery was outlawed, grew into a community of 40 million, were forcefully introduced to
> Christian salvation as opposed to their native cultural beliefs, and reached the greatest levels of freedom and
> prosperity blacks have ever known at a level that is a often fraction of what whites enjoy .
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6652|USA

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I'm not talking about Europe, don't pull that crap. We're talking about what WE did, using the excuse "they did it too" is ridiculously juvenile.

For fuck's sake they were treated as 3/5s of a person in the original writing of our Constitution. It's not like we didn't know better, it was just more convenient.

ATG wrote:

lowing wrote:


What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
Because he disagrees with it.


He doesn't ask if blacks have a better standard of living here or not, just condemns what you say.
jesus titty fucking christ you too? You are seriously going to say that just because blacks have achieved 1/10th the prosperity of whites as the nation's wealth has sky-rocketed that it was okay we denied them right for hundreds of years?
you say things like "jesus titty fucking christ" and you call me juvenile? oooooooooooooook

read up a great deal has been spent righting that injustice. Any other nation stepping up?
Marlo Stanfield
online poker tax cheating
+122|5164

lowing wrote:

Any other nation stepping up?
I'm pretty sure EU states donate a decent amount to helping in Africa.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6652|USA

Marlo Stanfield wrote:

lowing wrote:

Any other nation stepping up?
I'm pretty sure EU states donate a decent amount to helping in Africa.
Africa? Well shit the US does that as well. the EU is JUST as guilty if not MORE SO for slavery than the US, what have you done to help out the black community that you set up in America?
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|6752|Chicago.
I'm sick of hearing about slavery. It's been 400 years. Everybody's suffered enough. We all got abused, be it emotionally, physically, or politically.
13/f/taiwan
Member
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BigmacK wrote:

I'm sick of hearing about slavery. It's been 400 years. Everybody's suffered enough. We all got abused, be it emotionally, physically, or politically.
It's been 120 years, white boy.
Marlo Stanfield
online poker tax cheating
+122|5164

lowing wrote:

Marlo Stanfield wrote:

lowing wrote:

Any other nation stepping up?
I'm pretty sure EU states donate a decent amount to helping in Africa.
Africa? Well shit the US does that as well. the EU is JUST as guilty if not MORE SO for slavery than the US, what have you done to help out the black community that you set up in America?
It's not their problem. The slaves we bought became our property/problem. They just transported them here and we bought them like commodity. To say the Euros have an obligation to helping our black people is like saying a gun store owner has an obligation to make sure you don't kill someone with your gun or to cover the damages you caused with your gun.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

BigmacK wrote:

I'm sick of hearing about slavery. It's been 400 years. Everybody's suffered enough. We all got abused, be it emotionally, physically, or politically.
It's been 120 years, white boy.
145 but close enough.
BigmacK
Back from the Dead.
+628|6752|Chicago.

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

BigmacK wrote:

I'm sick of hearing about slavery. It's been 400 years. Everybody's suffered enough. We all got abused, be it emotionally, physically, or politically.
It's been 120 years, white boy.
145 but close enough.
My bad. White boy done fucked it up.
eleven bravo
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very un-racist
Tu Stultus Es
ATG
Banned
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I'm not talking about Europe, don't pull that crap. We're talking about what WE did, using the excuse "they did it too" is ridiculously juvenile.

For fuck's sake they were treated as 3/5s of a person in the original writing of our Constitution. It's not like we didn't know better, it was just more convenient.

ATG wrote:

lowing wrote:


What is racist about it? The fact that he had the nerve to say it?Or you think there is no truth to it?
Because he disagrees with it.


He doesn't ask if blacks have a better standard of living here or not, just condemns what you say.
jesus titty fucking christ you too? You are seriously going to say that just because blacks have achieved 1/10th the prosperity of whites as the nation's wealth has sky-rocketed that it was okay we denied them right for hundreds of years?
Well, we did change, they have their rights and one of them is president of the United States.

Last I checked villagers were still drinking cows blood.


Your statement that suggesting blacks have it better here is racists is just retarded.
NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6343|Atlanta, Georgia
Everyone should shut up. Blacks and whites. Blacks for bitching about everything and whites trying to use their logic over everyone.

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