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should gay couples be allowed to adopt?

yes86%86% - 37
no13%13% - 6
Total: 43
2010-03-13 14:07:18
Jay
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Pochsy wrote:

Sure. They may even prove more loving parents than straight couples given that most gay couples are committed to liberal ideals. If the child does not turn out to be what they expected, they would likely be the most accepting.

"May' is key. It obviously varies between couples.
Holding liberal beliefs hardly makes someone better/fitter parents. In fact, the spawn of liberals tend to be the least well adjusted to society.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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2010-03-13 14:09:10
ruisleipa
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Pochsy wrote:

Sure. They may even prove more loving parents than straight couples given that most gay couples are committed to liberal ideals. If the child does not turn out to be what they expected, they would likely be the most accepting.

"May' is key. It obviously varies between couples.
Holding liberal beliefs hardly makes someone better/fitter parents. In fact, the spawn of liberals tend to be the least well adjusted to society.
oh fuckin hell who turned this into another stupid assed 'liberal'-bashing thread. Galt that is a stupid statement that deserves absolutely no argument.  I know several gays who are practically so right wing they could be Fox News Gay Pundits. Completely irrelevant to the thread, never mind unproveable bullshit.

Last edited by ruisleipa (2010-03-13 14:09:55)

2010-03-13 14:12:10
Jay
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ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Pochsy wrote:

Sure. They may even prove more loving parents than straight couples given that most gay couples are committed to liberal ideals. If the child does not turn out to be what they expected, they would likely be the most accepting.

"May' is key. It obviously varies between couples.
Holding liberal beliefs hardly makes someone better/fitter parents. In fact, the spawn of liberals tend to be the least well adjusted to society.
oh fuckin hell who turned this into another stupid assed 'liberal'-bashing thread. Galt that is a stupid statement that deserves absolutely no argument.  Hell I know several gays who are practically so right wing they could be Fox News Gay Pundits.
Pochsy did. And it's not a stupid statement. The term 'soccer mom' is used to describe mostly liberal homemakers who shuttle their kids between sports, dance etc and are usually overwhelmingly pushy when it comes to directing their kids lives. Having an open mind is one thing but that really isn't the case with most 'liberals'.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-03-13 14:19:57
ruisleipa
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Pochsy did. And it's not a stupid statement. The term 'soccer mom' is used to describe mostly liberal homemakers who shuttle their kids between sports, dance etc and are usually overwhelmingly pushy when it comes to directing their kids lives. Having an open mind is one thing but that really isn't the case with most 'liberals'.
a soccer mom is a middle-class woman, nothing to do with being liberal or not. And since the title of the thread is should gay couple be allowed to adopt I fail to see how your liberal-bashing has anything to do with the topic in hand. You're now the one who introduced soccer moms into it...wtf?

oh and the bit that was stupid was this:

the spawn of liberals tend to be the least well adjusted to society.
which is a bullshit statement with no factual or any other basis.

Last edited by ruisleipa (2010-03-13 14:22:10)

2010-03-13 14:21:18
Jay
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ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Pochsy did. And it's not a stupid statement. The term 'soccer mom' is used to describe mostly liberal homemakers who shuttle their kids between sports, dance etc and are usually overwhelmingly pushy when it comes to directing their kids lives. Having an open mind is one thing but that really isn't the case with most 'liberals'.
a soccer mom is a middle-class woman, nothing to do with being liberal or not. And since the title of the thread is should gay couple be allowed to adopt I fail to see ho your liberl-bashing has anything to do with the topic in hand. You're now the one who introduced soccer moms into it...wtf?
Middle class women are generally former liberal arts college majors Goes with the territory.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-03-13 14:23:09
ruisleipa
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Middle class women are generally former liberal arts college majors Goes with the territory.
oh purleease...

I assume you're joking due to the
2010-03-13 14:25:55
Jay
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ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Middle class women are generally former liberal arts college majors Goes with the territory.
oh purleease...

I assume you're joking due to the
Nah, it was a sickened I dislike the people that went to school on daddy's dime just to find a husband
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-03-13 14:27:20
ruisleipa
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Nah, it was a sickened I dislike the people that went to school on daddy's dime just to find a husband
alright but how do you figure on them being 'liberal' then?

actually, don't bother answering...this thread is getting derailed fast.
2010-03-13 14:31:38
Jay
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ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Nah, it was a sickened I dislike the people that went to school on daddy's dime just to find a husband
alright but how do you figure on them being 'liberal' then?

actually, don't bother answering...this thread is getting derailed fast.
There is a significant correlation between degree earned and political views. Those with liberal arts degrees, English, Sociology (and even some hard sciences) etc tend to be far more Progressive/Liberal than those with degrees in Business/Economics/Engineering. Those that earn 'useful' degrees that pay well in life tend to be more conservative in nature.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
2010-03-13 14:35:13
ruisleipa
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JohnG@lt wrote:

There is a significant correlation between degree earned and political views. Those with liberal arts degrees, English, Sociology (and even some hard sciences) etc tend to be far more Progressive/Liberal than those with degrees in Business/Economics/Engineering. Those that earn 'useful' degrees that pay well in life tend to be more conservative in nature.
hmmm...

can you provide evidence for this statement?

and how does this affect pochsy's suggestion that gay people might prove to be more accepting adoptees? (Which I don't necessarily agree with btw).
2010-03-13 14:41:45
LividBovine
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lowing wrote:

Also regardless  as to how you feel about gay couples adopting. the childs welfare in a loving gay home is a better option than no loving home at all.
Isn't that what I said?
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2010-03-13 14:58:03
Wreckognize
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JohnG@lt wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Middle class women are generally former liberal arts college majors Goes with the territory.
oh purleease...

I assume you're joking due to the
Nah, it was a sickened I dislike the people that went to school on daddy's dime just to find a husband
Yea, damn those bastards for using the resources available to them
2010-03-13 15:08:19
ATG
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lowing wrote:

Anyone, or couple that can provide love and stability to a child should be able to adopt. This is also one institution where I feel govt. should subsidize. the entire program.

Too many loving and able families out there have the means and desire to adopt a child but are kept down by the unbelievable high costs involved. A child's chance at stability and quality of life should not be road blocked by the inability to pay off the agency holding him. In my humble opinion it is no less than human trafficking..
See here, the average fucking troll/tool?

Here is an example of compassionate conservatisim at its finest.

The masses here could do well to learn from Lowing; issues are not always black and white.  There is often two roads with a middle ground between them. This thought that Lowing expressed goes against the stereotype that he is often condemned for.
2010-03-13 16:49:39
13/f/taiwan
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jsnipy wrote:

Of course.

Troll thread fails.
2010-03-13 16:51:09
androoz
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Of course.

Troll thread fails.
not a troll thread. please leave if you dont like it. thanks.

@atg, 100% agree.
2010-03-13 17:08:45
ATG
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androoz wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:

jsnipy wrote:

Of course.

Troll thread fails.
not a troll thread. please leave if you dont like it. thanks.

@atg, 100% agree.
Don't try and kiss my ass, I hate you.
2010-03-13 17:11:30
androoz
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ATG wrote:

androoz wrote:

13/f/taiwan wrote:


not a troll thread. please leave if you dont like it. thanks.

@atg, 100% agree.
Don't try and kiss my ass, I hate you.
i hate you too but i agreed with you, people bagging on lowings train of thought even though they dont even seem to know him/theyre wrong.
2010-03-13 17:14:20
ATG
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Spelling and punctuation in dst or gtfo.
2010-03-13 17:28:08
Chou
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should people in phoenix be allowed to keep animals?
2010-03-13 17:31:22
13/f/taiwan
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Chou wrote:

should people in phoenix be allowed to keep animals?
troll

Last edited by 13/f/taiwan (2010-03-13 17:31:52)

2010-03-13 17:37:17
Chou
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

Chou wrote:

should people in phoenix be allowed to keep animals?
troll
just saying man some people are really fucked up towards animals *cough* phoenix *cough* but anyone can keep them, same goes for parent ship, some people ought to be smacked to death for the way they care for their kids (raising virtual shit but neglecting their own flesh )

I'll say this about gay couples and kids, at least they are thinking it through instead of accepting it out of a little accident over the weekend so perhaps they are better prepared than others and i'm sure as fuck these kids wont be spooned with prejudice bullshit.

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2010-03-13 19:15:26
Turquoise
O Canada
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lowing wrote:

Anyone, or couple that can provide love and stability to a child should be able to adopt. This is also one institution where I feel govt. should subsidize. the entire program.

Too many loving and able families out there have the means and desire to adopt a child but are kept down by the unbelievable high costs involved. A child's chance at stability and quality of life should not be road blocked by the inability to pay off the agency holding him. In my humble opinion it is no less than human trafficking..
This is an interesting point.  To a degree, we already subsidize the process via orphanages.  However, it's largely the regulations in place that drive up the cost of adoption.  Less regulations would make the process much cheaper.

As for the money changing hands...  well, that's just the way the system is.  It's not the most moral or ethical way of doing things, but...  it's kind of inevitable.
2010-03-13 19:18:57
SEREMAKER
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^^^ I'm with the above - they need to lower the cost on adoption but do ALOT more DSS pop ins to make sure the well being of the child is maintained













and yes everyone hates the pop in
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2010-03-13 21:03:58
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
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ruisleipa wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Pochsy did. And it's not a stupid statement. The term 'soccer mom' is used to describe mostly liberal homemakers who shuttle their kids between sports, dance etc and are usually overwhelmingly pushy when it comes to directing their kids lives. Having an open mind is one thing but that really isn't the case with most 'liberals'.
a soccer mom is a middle-class woman, nothing to do with being liberal or not. And since the title of the thread is should gay couple be allowed to adopt I fail to see how your liberal-bashing has anything to do with the topic in hand. You're now the one who introduced soccer moms into it...wtf?

oh and the bit that was stupid was this:
You 2 have very different definitions for a 'soccer mum'. (Maybe the u makes all the difference). Anyway, the 'real' definition is any mother who drives an SUV.
2010-03-13 22:34:57
ruisleipa
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ATG wrote:

Spelling and punctuation in dst or gtfo.
lol

you first.

 

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