Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6691|North Carolina

Ticia wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Ticia wrote:

Why would a filthy rich politician who hires illegal immigrants ask for all mexicans to be deported?
They all have glass houses but if you are elected on ideas that are not your own, well own up to that. I don't ask for the ones in power to lead perfect lives, i just want them to do as i say when i voted for them.

And there are a good amount of gays who are against gay marriage,i don't think they need therapy just a good shove.
If you have someone who is extremely hypocritical in office, that usually implies they are doing a lot of things behind closed doors that are against your interests as a voter.

In effect, Ashburn showed he has no sense of shame.  When someone shameless is in power, that's a very very dangerous thing.
I'm sorry i thought you were american you would be familiar with it by now. My bad.
Hypocrites are not exclusive to America, and honestly, I don't think they're anymore common here than in most developed countries.

Last edited by Turquoise (2010-03-10 19:03:07)

Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6731|The Land of Scott Walker
This opponent only likes teh ladies mmmkay.
Wreckognize
Member
+294|6771

Stingray24 wrote:

This opponent only likes teh ladies mmmkay.
obviously a bastion of repressed homosexuality
DrunkFace
Germans did 911
+427|6967|Disaster Free Zone

RTHKI wrote:

About hate crimes. There just needs to be an equality in how they are decided if it is a hate crime or not. How is white on *insert race here* always seemed to be portrayed as a hate crime while an crime against a white person isn't even if by definition it is. Although I think the media has a lot to do with it .
It's either a US thing or a Lowing delusional mind thing. Not too many years ago a bunch of Lebanese were charged with hate crimes and gang rape against a bunch of white chicks. It works both ways, all that is required is a motive to target a particular person or group based on race, religion, sexuality or gender.
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6508|teh FIN-land

Stingray24 wrote:

This opponent only likes teh ladies mmmkay.
what opponent? you? you're against gay marriage? would be interested to hear why.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

ruisleipa wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

This opponent only likes teh ladies mmmkay.
what opponent? you? you're against gay marriage? would be interested to hear why.
Hell hath no fury like that of being judged by a peaceful, loving, tolerant, Christian.
pace51
Boom?
+194|5459|Markham, Ontario
I'm actually a christian, and I'm not gay, but I do not think gays should be discriminated. Seriously, I don't think t's really right to hate someone for something they can't control. On a serious note, remember the last time some guy hated gays, jews, gypsies, and people who were different? Wwhat was his name again? Oh right. Adolf Hitler.
Yellowman03
Once Again, We Meet at Last
+108|6520|Texas

pace51 wrote:

I'm actually a christian, and I'm not gay, but I do not think gays should be discriminated. Seriously, I don't think t's really right to hate someone for something they can't control. On a serious note, remember the last time some guy hated gays, jews, gypsies, and people who were different? Wwhat was his name again? Oh right. Adolf Hitler.
/facedesk

Last edited by Yellowman03 (2010-03-11 10:03:24)

13/f/taiwan
Member
+940|5984

Yellowman03 wrote:

pace51 wrote:

I'm actually a christian, and I'm not gay, but I do not think gays should be discriminated. Seriously, I don't think t's really right to hate someone for something they can't control. On a serious note, remember the last time some guy hated gays, jews, gypsies, and people who were different? Wwhat was his name again? Oh right. Adolf Hitler.
/facedesk
Ticia
Member
+73|5621

Turquoise wrote:

Hypocrites are not exclusive to America, and honestly, I don't think they're anymore common here than in most developed countries.
Oh believe me I know.
What I was getting at is politicians are by definition hypocrites so I don't understand your surprise.

In this case he is a hypocrite who at least stood by the people who voted for him and not the other way around,not for the best reasons though since he was only trying to hide his sexuality.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6691|North Carolina

Ticia wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Hypocrites are not exclusive to America, and honestly, I don't think they're anymore common here than in most developed countries.
Oh believe me I know.
What I was getting at is politicians are by definition hypocrites so I don't understand your surprise.

In this case he is a hypocrite who at least stood by the people who voted for him and not the other way around,not for the best reasons though since he was only trying to hide his sexuality.
I suppose that is admirable in some respects...

Then again, it's also a good reason to doubt the validity of democracy when constituents can be so ignorant...
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6508|teh FIN-land

Turquoise wrote:

Then again, it's also a good reason to doubt the validity of democracy when constituents can be so ignorant...
well I wouldn't trust about 80% of any given poopulation to make a well-informed choice at the polls tbh.
Marlo Stanfield
online poker tax cheating
+122|5448
I think it may have something to do with this.
https://scrapetv.com/News/News%20Pages/Science/Images/Gay-Pride-Parade.jpg
My guess that they don't want to be lumped in and categorized with those flamers when their personality is more along the lines of



I know a guy like this. Manly as anything but keeps it secret to a most people because he doesn't want to be thought of like those guys in the top.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6731|The Land of Scott Walker

lowing wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

This opponent only likes teh ladies mmmkay.
what opponent? you? you're against gay marriage? would be interested to hear why.
Hell hath no fury like that of being judged by a peaceful, loving, tolerant, Christian.
Fair point, lowing.  However, judging and stating something is morally wrong are two different things.
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6935

pace51 wrote:

I'm actually a christian, and I'm not gay, but I do not think gays should be discriminated. Seriously, I don't think t's really right to hate someone for something they can't control. On a serious note, remember the last time some guy hated gays, jews, gypsies, and people who were different? Wwhat was his name again? Oh right. Adolf Hitler.
I guess Godwin was right.
Doctor Strangelove
Real Battlefield Veterinarian.
+1,758|6754

Stingray24 wrote:

This opponent only likes teh ladies mmmkay.
Are you telling us that or are you telling yourself that?
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6731|The Land of Scott Walker
You so silly, Doc.  The OP asked, so I answered.
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6937|USA

Stingray24 wrote:

lowing wrote:

ruisleipa wrote:


what opponent? you? you're against gay marriage? would be interested to hear why.
Hell hath no fury like that of being judged by a peaceful, loving, tolerant, Christian.
Fair point, lowing.  However, judging and stating something is morally wrong are two different things.
I really don't see how. Saying my life style is morally wrong, is a judgement on me and my life style. The difference I think you seek to make is what you try and do about it.

you know I love you anyway
IG-Calibre
comhalta
+226|7028|Tír Eoghan, Tuaisceart Éireann
Anti-gay US pastor took rent boy on holiday


A baptist minister who is one of America's leading opponents of gay rights, and who believes that homosexuality is a mental disorder that can be “cured”, found himself with some serious explaining to do yesterday after he was photographed at Miami airport with a male prostitute he had hired to join him on a European holiday.


George Alan Rekers, a middle-aged co-founder of the right-wing Family Research Council, admitted taking the 20-year-old on a 10-day trip to London and Madrid in March.

Rekers met the sex worker on the website www.rentboy.com, where he appears under the alias “Lucien” and claims to be “sensual,” “wild” and “up for anything”.

Rekers, who has appeared as an expert witness in court cases challenging gay adoption, denied having sex with his travelling companion. He had hired Lucien to help carry his luggage, he told reporters, and only found out that he was a prostitute on the trip.

“I had surgery and I can't lift luggage,” Rekers told the Miami New Times. “That's why I hired him.” He declined to say why he had secured bag-carrying services through rentboy.com.

Rekers also neglected to explain what had drawn him to Lucien, who has long blond hair and well developed muscles in pictures on the website.



http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ … z0n9Frzd7n
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5464|Sydney
When you get down to it all, what motivation do people have to be against gay marriage?
Does it affect them in their day to day life?
Sounds more like they just want to interfere further whilst justifying their own feeling of self righteousness.
Give it another decade or so. They'll be teaching our grandchildren in school how backward today's society was on this issue.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX

Jaekus wrote:

When you get down to it all, what motivation do people have to be against gay marriage?
Does it affect them in their day to day life?
Sounds more like they just want to interfere further whilst justifying their own feeling of self righteousness.
Give it another decade or so. They'll be teaching our grandchildren in school how backward today's society was on this issue.
From my perspective its not about interfering, its know what the next steps will be.
They'll want tax breaks, pension benefits, 'rights' to have/adopt/surrogate children - gays demanding govt funded IVF treatment for example, etc.
Ley them 'marry' but don't give them the social benefits due to heterosexual couples.
Fuck Israel
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6935

Dilbert_X wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

When you get down to it all, what motivation do people have to be against gay marriage?
Does it affect them in their day to day life?
Sounds more like they just want to interfere further whilst justifying their own feeling of self righteousness.
Give it another decade or so. They'll be teaching our grandchildren in school how backward today's society was on this issue.
From my perspective its not about interfering, its know what the next steps will be.
They'll want tax breaks, pension benefits, 'rights' to have/adopt/surrogate children - gays demanding govt funded IVF treatment for example, etc.
Ley them 'marry' but don't give them the social benefits due to heterosexual couples.
Why not though? Why shouldn't they be allowed all that?
ruisleipa
Member
+149|6508|teh FIN-land

Dilbert_X wrote:

From my perspective its not about interfering, its know what the next steps will be.
They'll want tax breaks, pension benefits, 'rights' to have/adopt/surrogate children - gays demanding govt funded IVF treatment for example, etc.
So what?

Dilbert_X wrote:

Ley them 'marry' but don't give them the social benefits due to heterosexual couples.
why the hell not?
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,816|6391|eXtreme to the maX
Give tax breaks to everyone then, single people, unmarried couples, people who father kids and run like the wind.
Fuck Israel
ghettoperson
Member
+1,943|6935

Why give them to married straight people then?

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