Knives. Solves the problem. Or get a BB gun, and aim for the kidneys.
I like pie.
He didn't go to trial. He was never even charged with anything.Cybargs wrote:
Heard about that. He shouldn't have gone to trial in the first place. I'd rather have guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens than only to a collection of criminals. Buy back programs don't really work...JohnG@lt wrote:
Well yeah, that's different. You can't run out in the street and start shooting at peopleTicia wrote:
He shot at their car as they were leaving and the driver lost control and crashed. Good riddance i say but my friend is in a really messy situation.
NYC has banned handguns. This guy had a registered shotgun and killed two of the four people that walked into his store to rob him. He received no jail time in the second most liberal city in America
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/nyregion/14shoot.html
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
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-Frederick Bastiat
Orly.JohnG@lt wrote:
He didn't go to trial. He was never even charged with anything.Cybargs wrote:
Heard about that. He shouldn't have gone to trial in the first place. I'd rather have guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens than only to a collection of criminals. Buy back programs don't really work...JohnG@lt wrote:
Well yeah, that's different. You can't run out in the street and start shooting at people
NYC has banned handguns. This guy had a registered shotgun and killed two of the four people that walked into his store to rob him. He received no jail time in the second most liberal city in America
http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/14/nyregion/14shoot.html
Shit, justice was served. But I think with something that is as deadly as a gun... There should be psychological testing and more background checks etc, but shouldn't cost so much to administer said tests.
What legal options do you have?
Other weapons don't work as well as guns, but they may not carry a 3 year sentence either...
Other weapons don't work as well as guns, but they may not carry a 3 year sentence either...
Throwing knives?
sounds like Canada now really... when attacked you're advised to just give up and wait for the policeTicia wrote:
Portugal in southern Europe where violence is rising but you're not allowed to defend yourself.Jenspm wrote:
Where do you live?
they would have deserved it tbhDoctor Strangelove wrote:
And if you did do that then you would have just killed a guy with an illegal weapon, this negating the claims to justification you could have made because they were robbing you.Ticia wrote:
I don't own a safe deposit at the restaurant i have one back at home. Last time they just came through the front door as i was closing and forced me to open the register which was loaded, people tell me that was good because if it had no money they'd probably would harm me physically. It's weird but i wasn't really afraid i was so pissed off i could've blow their heads off if i had a gun.SEREMAKER wrote:
are they coming through the front door and popping at the cash register near the door or are they coming through the back and hitting your safe thats in your office
if guns get made illegal here... mine are all gone thanks to everything having to be registeredunnamednewbie13 wrote:
Probably, because a new law isn't going to make them magically vanish from my safe.Ticia wrote:
Gun owners - Would you still have one if it was illegal?
...or anyone else's, for that matter.
I'd sarcastically wish the feds the best of luck in trying to gather them all up. What a hornet's nest THAT would be...
the swat team would be here not long after with their list
knives as a self defense method is really not a good idea... unless you have a lot of training with itTSI wrote:
Knives. Solves the problem. Or get a BB gun, and aim for the kidneys.
i could always try and send you one of the cans of bear repellent... since pepper spray and tazers/stun guns are banned here
Move to America...Ticia wrote:
Portugal in southern Europe where violence is rising but you're not allowed to defend yourself.Jenspm wrote:
Where do you live?
Get a sword. Or get an air gun disguised as an umbrella that shoots poison covered pellets that penetrate the skin just enough to deliver the poison.
Make X-meds a full member, for the sake of 15 year old anal gangbang porn watchers everywhere!
ROGUEDD wrote:
Get a sword. Or get an air gun disguised as an umbrella that shoots poison covered pellets that penetrate the skin just enough to deliver the poison.
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
Poison and other debilitating chemicals usually take time to work. What is the point of killing a robber if they shoot you before dying?
You want something that can nearly instantly STOP an attacker (killing is not the intended goal, but it may be an effect).
Interesting idea: I've been told that certain types of bug spray actually work better than mace/pepper spray against humans and dogs. I have not verified this, but it is an interesting idea. Bug spray isn't normally considered a weapon by law. I'd assume you can have bug spray available without legal consequences...
You want something that can nearly instantly STOP an attacker (killing is not the intended goal, but it may be an effect).
Interesting idea: I've been told that certain types of bug spray actually work better than mace/pepper spray against humans and dogs. I have not verified this, but it is an interesting idea. Bug spray isn't normally considered a weapon by law. I'd assume you can have bug spray available without legal consequences...
I like this idea. Get one of those cans of wasp killer that shoot like 22 feet.RAIMIUS wrote:
Poison and other debilitating chemicals usually take time to work. What is the point of killing a robber if they shoot you before dying?
You want something that can nearly instantly STOP an attacker (killing is not the intended goal, but it may be an effect).
Interesting idea: I've been told that certain types of bug spray actually work better than mace/pepper spray against humans and dogs. I have not verified this, but it is an interesting idea. Bug spray isn't normally considered a weapon by law. I'd assume you can have bug spray available without legal consequences...
OT: I have 3 guns right now. One is registered. So no, I would not have one if it was illegal, I would have 2.
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Now that's retarded ... you may find it strange but infact we value life in Europe ... and we don't automatically presume criminals will use deadly force, we have a different gun culture and it takes a hell of lot more for people starting shooting at eachother over petty things like money, cars and material goods.JohnG@lt wrote:
That's retarded. If someone attacks you they forfeit their life. Who's to say they wouldn't have used deadly force on you?Ticia wrote:
I know. I have a friend who owns a coffee shop who is facing trial right now 'cause he shot a burglar and the thing is his gun was legal but the courts are seeing as a case of excessive self-defense.Doctor Strangelove wrote:
And if you did do that then you would have just killed a guy with an illegal weapon, this negating the claims to justification you could have made because they were robbing you.
Either way i'm screwed.
Insurence will cover your loss anyways so why risk your own life?
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
On topic:
Shotguns are usually easier to get a license for than handguns.
Replica guns, blank-firers etc - May be useful if the other guy doesn't have a gun, and can't be used against you if you lose it in a struggle.
OTOH If the other guy does have a gun you're more likely to get shot.
I had my Colt Trooper deactivated rather than hand it in, I reckoned it looked convincing, made all the right clicking noises and if any potential bad guy really wasn't convinced it would have made an excellent mace with the rubber grip, good weight and blunt edges.
While pistol-whipping sounds like kinky fun a real pistol could do a lot of damage.
Shotguns are usually easier to get a license for than handguns.
Replica guns, blank-firers etc - May be useful if the other guy doesn't have a gun, and can't be used against you if you lose it in a struggle.
OTOH If the other guy does have a gun you're more likely to get shot.
I had my Colt Trooper deactivated rather than hand it in, I reckoned it looked convincing, made all the right clicking noises and if any potential bad guy really wasn't convinced it would have made an excellent mace with the rubber grip, good weight and blunt edges.
While pistol-whipping sounds like kinky fun a real pistol could do a lot of damage.
Fuck Israel
Blanks can kill up closeDilbert_X wrote:
On topic:
Shotguns are usually easier to get a license for than handguns.
Replica guns, blank-firers etc - May be useful if the other guy doesn't have a gun, and can't be used against you if you lose it in a struggle.
OTOH If the other guy does have a gun you're more likely to get shot.
I had my Colt Trooper deactivated rather than hand it in, I reckoned it looked convincing, made all the right clicking noises and if any potential bad guy really wasn't convinced it would have made an excellent mace with the rubber grip, good weight and blunt edges.
While pistol-whipping sounds like kinky fun a real pistol could do a lot of damage.
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
As for an illegal/unregistered gun - Thats a tricky one.
Fuck Israel
I'd make a zip gun.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
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If it is illegal, then don't do it. Instead get a cyborg cheetah
Taser. It'll fuck people up without there being much chance of killing them, and you won't get ass-fucked like you would if you're caught with an illegal weapon.
unless tasers are banned in your area
seeing as I always have my bearmode on ............ economically I think we can come to an agreeable price
About a year ago i would totally agree with you. But after having a gun pointed at a couple of times and having lost a fairly amount of money i'm just over it,i'm not about to kill someone but i need to show these fuckers not to mess with me.Varegg wrote:
Now that's retarded ... you may find it strange but infact we value life in Europe ... and we don't automatically presume criminals will use deadly force, we have a different gun culture and it takes a hell of lot more for people starting shooting at eachother over petty things like money, cars and material goods.JohnG@lt wrote:
That's retarded. If someone attacks you they forfeit their life. Who's to say they wouldn't have used deadly force on you?Ticia wrote:
I know. I have a friend who owns a coffee shop who is facing trial right now 'cause he shot a burglar and the thing is his gun was legal but the courts are seeing as a case of excessive self-defense.
Either way i'm screwed.
Insurance will cover your loss anyways so why risk your own life?
Insurance is ripping me off as it is, they won't cover robberies until i get a better alarm system and right now i just can't afford that.
To everyone else:
What good would a knife do? I'm 5'5 and 120, they'd just laugh at me.
Tasers are banned here.
My best option is the fake gun or become a hunter and apply for a license again.
If that is the case, planning your response around a gun is stupid.Ticia wrote:
i'm not about to kill someone but i need to show these fuckers not to mess with me.
If you do not intend to use it, you would be escalating their perceived threat while not actually providing any additional means to stop an attack against you.
Why not give free coffee or 25% discount on meals to Police?
Just putting a notice up might make people think there could be a Policeman at any table, and the Police attitude to helping you might be better.
There's always screamer alarms, so loud the only thing they want to do is get out.
Just putting a notice up might make people think there could be a Policeman at any table, and the Police attitude to helping you might be better.
There's always screamer alarms, so loud the only thing they want to do is get out.
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Fuck Israel
Agreed.RAIMIUS wrote:
If that is the case, planning your response around a gun is stupid.Ticia wrote:
i'm not about to kill someone but i need to show these fuckers not to mess with me.
If you do not intend to use it, you would be escalating their perceived threat while not actually providing any additional means to stop an attack against you.
If they rob you at gunpoint, then they would probably have no problems with shooting you if you point a gun at them..