CameronPoe
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+2,925|6756
Hi Folks,

Seen as I was just in Krakow recently and visited the above-mentioned I thought I would share my snaps. The weather wasn't exactly optimum for photography but you get the general idea.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1 … 752fd67f55

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-12-14 15:35:56)

blademaster
I'm moving to Brazil
+2,075|6846
nice pics go to Jasenovac next
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6612|'Murka

You took pictures of something that either:

1. didn't happen or

2. was the Jew's own fault

Depending on whether you agree with Dinnerjacket or certain posters here.

On a serious note, any commentary on the impact it had on you to visit that place? If I ever get to visit Poland, I will make every effort to visit there, if for no other reason than to honor an old EE professor of mine who was a survivor of that place (and a character in Maus, btw).
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
1stSFOD-Delta
Mike "The Spooge Gobbler" Morales
+376|6179|Blue Mountain State
was there a few months ago. depressing shit
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Baba Booey
13rin
Member
+977|6680

CameronPoe wrote:

Hi Folks,

Seen as I was just in Krakow recently and visited the above-mentioned I thought I would share my snaps. The weather wasn't exactly optimum for photography but you get the general idea.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1 … 752fd67f55
I've seen that sign before. "Work Makes You Free"  -  Bullshit.

I've been to Dachau.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
KuSTaV
noice
+947|6712|Gold Coast
I was there roughly the same time of year in 2006 (granted you were there pretty recently).

It was freezing, lightly snowing, and the fog was heavy. I was wearing a jacket and jumper and still freezing my ass off.

Good pics btw.
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Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6801|132 and Bush

That's perfect weather for Photography Cam! An overcast sky will give you a softbox type effect. Overcast skies are good because of the balanced light they produce. The clouds act as a natural diffuser. That helps to get rid hard shadows and reflections. The gloomy/somber nature of gray skies is also appropriate considering the history of that location. I think the photos were great.

I didn't mean to hijack. I would love a chance to visit someday as well.
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CameronPoe
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FEOS wrote:

On a serious note, any commentary on the impact it had on you to visit that place? If I ever get to visit Poland, I will make every effort to visit there, if for no other reason than to honor an old EE professor of mine who was a survivor of that place (and a character in Maus, btw).
I had already been to Dachau and oddly, despite Auschwitz being far more of a killing machine, Dachau had a bigger impact on me. Dachau is smaller and contains large blown up photographs of how each room was found upon liberation - piles of corpses, etc. - and little chilling things like a slight ditch in the ground beyond a ridge in a quiet wooded area where people were summarily executed by pistol and left to 'bleed out'. Dachau also has an impressive sculpture a copy of which is in Yad Vashem in Jersualem (a place I should have visited while I was there but didn't get the chance) and a more intimate feel to it. Auschwitz is so large that it makes it impossible to comprehend the scale of the killing even though you're walking around it. It's just too difficult to get your head around. Particularly chillling elements of Auschwitz include 2 tonnes of human hair stripped off inmates for use in rugs, piles of suitcases with family names and details scrawled on them and - the most chilling for me - piles of childrens shoes.

Electing to visit on a tour rather than independently I think was the wrong option. Rather than spend decent time at particular points of interest to soak it all up we were shuffled around like a herd of sheep on a converyor belt. If you visit I advise you to go independently and get the audioguide (which is what I did in Dachau).

Last edited by CameronPoe (2009-12-15 00:38:30)

Shahter
Zee Ruskie
+295|6976|Moscow, Russia
shit... honestly, i just can't imagine why would anybody want to go there in person. i mean, the stories i've heard and photos i've seen are... well, "colorfull" enough.

/shiver
if you open your mind too much your brain will fall out.
AussieReaper
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+5,761|6354|what

Thanks for sharing.
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Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6875|Canberra, AUS
Good pics Cam. Even reading about that place gives me the chills.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6612|'Murka

CameronPoe wrote:

Particularly chillling elements of Auschwitz include 2 tonnes of human hair stripped off inmates for use in rugs, piles of suitcases with family names and details scrawled on them and - the most chilling for me - piles of childrens shoes.
Sounds like the Holocaust Memorial/Museum in DC, tbh. A place I would highly recommend, as well.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6940|Toronto | Canada

I went to Mauthausen Concentration Camp last summer, I have a bunch of pictures from that if anyone's interested.

http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1 … e796c33246
http://www.facebook.com/album.php?aid=1 … 2cf25bed4d

One of the most moving experiences of my life, I really think everyone should see these places.
13rin
Member
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CameronPoe wrote:

FEOS wrote:

On a serious note, any commentary on the impact it had on you to visit that place? If I ever get to visit Poland, I will make every effort to visit there, if for no other reason than to honor an old EE professor of mine who was a survivor of that place (and a character in Maus, btw).
I had already been to Dachau and oddly, despite Auschwitz being far more of a killing machine, Dachau had a bigger impact on me. Dachau is smaller and contains large blown up photographs of how each room was found upon liberation - piles of corpses, etc. - and little chilling things like a slight ditch in the ground beyond a ridge in a quiet wooded area where people were summarily executed by pistol and left to 'bleed out'. Dachau also has an impressive sculpture a copy of which is in Yad Vashem in Jersualem (a place I should have visited while I was there but didn't get the chance) and a more intimate feel to it. Auschwitz is so large that it makes it impossible to comprehend the scale of the killing even though you're walking around it. It's just too difficult to get your head around. Particularly chillling elements of Auschwitz include 2 tonnes of human hair stripped off inmates for use in rugs, piles of suitcases with family names and details scrawled on them and - the most chilling for me - piles of childrens shoes.

Electing to visit on a tour rather than independently I think was the wrong option. Rather than spend decent time at particular points of interest to soak it all up we were shuffled around like a herd of sheep on a converyor belt. If you visit I advise you to go independently and get the audioguide (which is what I did in Dachau).
The human experiment part of Dachau was messed up -bunch of sick fucks.  Coldest f'n place I've ever been to (probably not, but it sure felt that way).    Granted I was there, saw the photos, bunks, ovens, gas showers -but I couldn't fully imagine what those people were put through.

FEOS wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Particularly chillling elements of Auschwitz include 2 tonnes of human hair stripped off inmates for use in rugs, piles of suitcases with family names and details scrawled on them and - the most chilling for me - piles of childrens shoes.
Sounds like the Holocaust Memorial/Museum in DC, tbh. A place I would highly recommend, as well.
Second most somber place I've been to.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2009-12-15 08:57:03)

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5559|London, England

DBBrinson1 wrote:

FEOS wrote:

CameronPoe wrote:

Particularly chillling elements of Auschwitz include 2 tonnes of human hair stripped off inmates for use in rugs, piles of suitcases with family names and details scrawled on them and - the most chilling for me - piles of childrens shoes.
Sounds like the Holocaust Memorial/Museum in DC, tbh. A place I would highly recommend, as well.
Second most somber place I've been to.
Yep. Visited it on a school trip when I was in 8th grade. If I remember correctly it's a shared museum (or it was a temporary section) that also shows the horrors of racism, slavery and segregation in the south complete with KKK hoods and pictures of black men being lynched and having their genitals cut off.

There's a large Jewish population on Long Island too and my hometown has it's own Holocaust museum.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
signa
~~~~~
+50|6929|Michigan, USA
the picture of the rail tracks is just nauseating to think of.

Last edited by signa (2009-12-15 16:17:02)

Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,813|6307|eXtreme to the maX
Mauthausen was certainly a horrible place to visit.
Fuck Israel
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6612|'Murka

I'm sure Cam had nothing to do with this

The infamous iron sign bearing the Nazis' cynical slogan "Arbeit Macht Frei" that spanned the main entrance to the former Auschwitz death camp was stolen before dawn Friday, Polish police said.

The wide iron sign — across a gate at the former Nazi death camp in southern Poland where more than 1 million people died during World War II — was removed by being unscrewed on one side and torn off on the other, police spokeswoman Katarzyna Padlo said.

She said the sign — bearing the German words for "Work Sets You Free" — disappeared from the Auschwitz memorial between 3:30 a.m. and 5 a.m.
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― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,813|6307|eXtreme to the maX
Right now there is an Irishman waking up with a traffic cone full of vomit and some wrought iron-work in a hotel somewhere thinking 'Oi tink oi done surpassed moiself dis toime me old mate'
Fuck Israel
Jenspm
penis
+1,716|6933|St. Andrews / Oslo

CameronPoe wrote:

FEOS wrote:

On a serious note, any commentary on the impact it had on you to visit that place? If I ever get to visit Poland, I will make every effort to visit there, if for no other reason than to honor an old EE professor of mine who was a survivor of that place (and a character in Maus, btw).
I had already been to Dachau and oddly, despite Auschwitz being far more of a killing machine, Dachau had a bigger impact on me. Dachau is smaller and contains large blown up photographs of how each room was found upon liberation - piles of corpses, etc. - and little chilling things like a slight ditch in the ground beyond a ridge in a quiet wooded area where people were summarily executed by pistol and left to 'bleed out'. Dachau also has an impressive sculpture a copy of which is in Yad Vashem in Jersualem (a place I should have visited while I was there but didn't get the chance) and a more intimate feel to it. Auschwitz is so large that it makes it impossible to comprehend the scale of the killing even though you're walking around it. It's just too difficult to get your head around. Particularly chillling elements of Auschwitz include 2 tonnes of human hair stripped off inmates for use in rugs, piles of suitcases with family names and details scrawled on them and - the most chilling for me - piles of childrens shoes.

Electing to visit on a tour rather than independently I think was the wrong option. Rather than spend decent time at particular points of interest to soak it all up we were shuffled around like a herd of sheep on a converyor belt. If you visit I advise you to go independently and get the audioguide (which is what I did in Dachau).
Pretty much sums up how I experienced it. We roamed around the ground on our own first, however, and sucked up the impressions, made an image in our heads of how it was, tried to understand the size of it all, and THEN went on a guided tour.  Worked quite well, that, as it answered almost all of our questions (and those that weren't, we could ask).

Last edited by Jenspm (2009-12-18 04:18:30)

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Karbin
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The iron sign bearing the Nazi slogan "Arbeit Macht Frei" (Work Shall Set You Free) that spanned the main entrance to the former Auschwitz death camp has been stolen, say Polish police.


Museum guards at the Auschwitz concentration camp memorial alerted police at 5 a.m. local time on Friday after they noticed the sign was missing. The thieves appear to have unscrewed the sign on one side and torn it off on the other side, said police spokeswoman Katarzyna Padlo.

Museum spokesman Pawel Sawicki called the theft at the infamous labour camp, where over one million people died or were executed, a "desecration" and said he was shocked the tragic history of the site did not stop the thieves.

Police have launched an intensive investigation at the vast former death camp, where the ruins of watchtowers, barracks and gas chambers still stand in varying states of disrepair, a reminder of the atrocities inflicted by Nazi Germany on Jews, Poles, Roma and others during the Second World War.

Theft desecrates 'world memory'

An exact replica of the sign - made when restoration work was being done on the original - was immediately hung in place of the missing sign. Non-Jewish Polish inmates made the original sign in Auschwitz in 1940. The slogan was also used at the entrances to other Nazi death camps, including Dachau and Sachsenhausen.

Poland's Chief Rabbi Michael Schudrich condemned the theft, saying whoever has done it "has desecrated world memory."

"Auschwitz has to stand intact because without it, we are without the world's greatest reminder - physical reminder - of what we are capable of doing to each other," Schudrich said.

Between 1940 and 1945, more than one million people, mostly Jews, were killed or died of starvation and disease while carrying out forced labour at the camp, which the Nazis built in occupied Poland.

Today the site serves as one of the main tourist draws in southern Poland, attracting more than one million visitors per year.

With files from The Associated Press
Poseidon
Fudgepack DeQueef
+3,253|6738|Long Island, New York
They found the sign, but in 3 pieces. They'll fix it up.
krazed
Admiral of the Bathtub
+619|6981|Great Brown North
still, what a bunch of assholes though
CameronPoe
Member
+2,925|6756
Looks like I'm off the hook....
Benzin
Member
+576|6199
A friend of mine is from the town of Auschwitz in Poland. That's a conversation starter for sure...

The Jewish Memorial here in Vienna is pretty chilling, too. It has the names of all the concentration camps around it and then lists the number of Jews died in Austria alone. It's in the middle of a large, open square and is essentially a large crypt made from concrete. Very evil looking, imo. I imagine if you google it, you'll find it pretty easily along with the passage written on the front. There are always flowers around it on the ground, so you're never really allowed to forget, though it's hard to ignore it when you walk past. That square is off the beaten path but it's always eerily quiet around it. Gives me the creeps.

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