Spark
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Jaekus wrote:

Spark wrote:

Haha I'm not sure what Turnbull is doing... maybe he's gotten bored. Gun that he's going it though.
I think he's playing long term politics with the leadership thing. He's setting Abbott up to either win the next election, in which case he'll wait a while longer, or if the more likely event that he loses he will then step in and wrest leadership from him, banking on the fact that his party will have lost faith in him by then so he should get it more than not, and that Gillard will be a lot less likely to win a third term so if by then he's sailing well he could possibly become the next PM.
Well he has to remember he has to get his own party onside first.
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Jaekus
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True.
KuSTaV
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huh?

Isnt the purpose of a 'carbon tax' to combat environmental issues? Why the fuck would $6bil go to 'lower and middle class earners'?

I dont understand what the fuck that tax is suppose to achieve.
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-pacific-13598243
The Australian government has suspended the live export of cattle to 11 abattoirs in Indonesia, after a TV documentary showed brutal treatment of animals at the facilities.

The footage, broadcast on ABC, showed cattle being flogged and taking minutes to die after their necks were slashed.

Some MPs have called for a total ban on the trade with Indonesia, worth more than A$300m a year
We should cut all live exports.

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Ty
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So yeah, anyone here supporting an early Federal Election to decide the carbon tax? You guys ever hear of a referendum?

I'm astounded that with all the bitching and moaning from Abbott and of others about wasteful spending they are actively pushing for a Federal Election less than a year after the last one. The 2004 Federal Election cost $117.3 million dollars. The 2007 Federal Election cost $163 million dollars. I imagine the 2010 one would have cost significantly more than this, not to mention the messing around given the closeness of the result which turned the whole thing into a headache. Why have another one so soon and why on this one issue?

The thing is this isn't being driven by the carbon tax, it's being driven by Tony Abbott's ego and want for a second chance at forming Government before the Coalition realises how fucking useless he is and replaces him. How do I know this? Because no details have been actually been released about the tax - and that's the Gillard Government's stupid fault - and Tony's been harping on about how the carbon tax will add X amount of dollars to the average power, replacing X with whatever number he's managed to fish out of his arse. Abbott's done his job right to be sure, he's successfully opposed the thing,  that's his prerogative. My problem is that he's not doing it for the betterment of the country, he's doing it for his own selfish sake.

This is an important issue sure - but a Federal Election? Short of Tony Abbott's ego there is no reason for it. A referendum, a binding referendum? Sure, that's a good idea, I can get behind that. It still costs but a lot less than the cost of a Federal Election. But Abbott isn't pushing for this sensible option because it wont result in him getting another chance to form Government. I've been pretty easy on Abbott in the past, short of calling him a whiner and a poor Opposition leader, but  really he has proven himself to be such a wanker in this case.
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Politicians don't give a crap about wasteful spending, as long as they are drawing the salaries and in the limelight.
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Ty
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So then it should be even more intolerable that a politician who's one great stance is against wasteful spending is proposing such a thing - and people seem to be supporting it.
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Abbott is a moron, I'm not wasting any more time listening to anything he has to say, Gillard too.
We need a new crop of politicians, until the current lot go I'm just not interested.
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Lol. Katter's "Australian Party". Really imaginative there Bob.

Apparently Pauline Hansen is considering joining. That will definitely help their credibility
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Lol. Katter's "Australian Party". Really imaginative there Bob.

Apparently Pauline Hansen is considering joining. That will definitely help their credibility
oh how my undying love for dear old pauline. despite being a half breed gook ill never be white enough in her eyes
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white rice isn't white enough in her eyes.

cause it's asian too.
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Ty
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A year to the day since Kevin Rudd was axed as PM in favour of Julia Gillard. Gillard's reasoning on the day was to 'protect a good Government that had lost tis way'. Any thoughts on that? Personally I see Gillard as pretty much following every single one of Rudd's policies yet has made a number of pretty poor policy choices of her own. Recently Malaysia comes to mind but at the start of her Government I remember her announcing her asylum seeker processing centre in East Timor - without consulting anyone from East Timor. Obviously this flopped and I forsee the Malaysian deal to go the same way.

I liked Rudd. Not necessarily for his policies but I thought he was a capable leader. Most importantly for me but irrelevent to most he had a good speaking voice which Gillard certainly lacks. I don't understand why Labor decided to replace him, I think it hasn't worked for them. I definitely think Rudd would have performed better in the election and I think Rudd was a better PM than Gillard is.
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Spark
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I have no idea what's wrong with Gillard. 2007-8 I thought she was the sharpest political mind/operator in the country.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Ty
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I didn't like how she came to power, that's a big reason behind my dislike of her. After publicly stating that she would be supporting Rudd the next thing we hear is that she's shanked him in the back. And why? Because he was having trouble with his mining tax which many people, both industry and otherwise, have been saying was better than Gillard's current one. But it's politics really and I should be less petty about it.

Aside from the East Timor thing and to a lesser extent the current Malaysian thing she's been a pretty good PM. Not brilliant, prone to fuck-ups, but she's held her own. I just don't like her.

It could just stem from the fact that I have to hear her bogan voice every day. It is a very annoying voice.
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Her sole interest is in herself being PM, nothing else seems to matter.

We need some real leaders, not these career politicos.
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Spark
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Ty wrote:

I didn't like how she came to power, that's a big reason behind my dislike of her. After publicly stating that she would be supporting Rudd the next thing we hear is that she's shanked him in the back. And why? Because he was having trouble with his mining tax which many people, both industry and otherwise, have been saying was better than Gillard's current one. But it's politics really and I should be less petty about it.

Aside from the East Timor thing and to a lesser extent the current Malaysian thing she's been a pretty good PM. Not brilliant, prone to fuck-ups, but she's held her own. I just don't like her.

It could just stem from the fact that I have to hear her bogan voice every day. It is a very annoying voice.
By "wrong" I mean completely lost her political instincts and skills. Politically this is the most incompetent government I've ever seen, despite some of its policy moves being pretty good.
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Ty
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Ah, I see. Gillard's Government is built on the cheeseball politics of catch phrases more than actual policy, this is her problem. The actual policy comes later and as a result it's confused and mismanaged. Despite her endless "moving forward" she actually has no direction, (ironic given her reasons for ousting Rudd.) Kevin Rudd on the other hand knew what he wanted to do as PM; he wanted to make Australia fairer. What does Gillard want to accomplish? "Moving forward" - what does that even mean? Tony Abbott's no better, all he wants is to become Prime Minister. All he's done is criticise what Labor's put up while putting half-baked plans up in response, saying that all the real policy will come later. Dammit I miss Kev, he had some integrity.
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mate
Ty
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Robert Schwarten wants to ban repeat criminal offenders from wearing hoodies.

What the shit?
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Spark
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what the fuck?

please tell me that's a qld thing
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
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Dilbert_X
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Ty wrote:

Robert Schwarten wants to ban repeat criminal offenders from wearing hoodies.

What the shit?
I'd ban anyone convicted of violence from driving - we can do without thugs on the road, screw them if their life gets harder.
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Ty
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Yeah but it's such an old man policy, relating a hooded sweatshirt to those damn nogoodnik kids!
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Jaekus
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Australian politics is fucked right now. I'd vote the whole lot out if I could.

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