BF2S Forums Australian politics thread.

Ty wrote:

Jay wrote:

You'd think aussies would be a bit more thoughtful regarding deportation seeing as how most of their ancestors were tossed out of the UK as undesirables. Shitheads.

It's a surprisingly similar situation.

Peter Dutton's all about "these foreigners are undesirables and we don't want them here" but as I said a lot of them, I'd say most of them, are Australian in everything but documentation. The first fellow I mentioned, the main photo of him being used in the media he's wearing a South Sydney Rabbitohs jersey. No-one who identifies as a New Zealander would do that even if they were one of the few weirdo Kiwis who like rugby league.

They are deporting people they don't like through a loophole. And as immoral as that is I can understand the desire, but speaking as a New Zealander in New Zealand, I don't want to deal with Australia's reject Australians. They have no support structure here meaning they will be living on welfare, (which Australian legislation disqualifies them from in Australia because fuck New Zealanders.) A number of them would have left behind families. A lot of them would have been damaged at the hands of the Australian corrections and immigration system. A lot of them do not see themselves as New Zealanders and have no connection to the country at all. What do you think they'll do? Suddenly turn into model citizens?

Australia is irreparably fucking up a lot of people and are dumping them on us because they think they should be able to. And John Key may be complicit because he wants to ride on the coat tails of Australia's turn back the boats policy in case any refugee boats turn up here but as far as I'm concerned the situation reeks.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

It does create an uneven balance of rights of non-citizens v citizens in the criminal justice system sometimes benefiting the non-citizen.

I witnessed a case where a man got s.10 (conviction not recorded) for assaulting his wife. The judge really wanted to punish the guy but they would not give him an AVO because it'd affect his visa, ending his ability to support his wife's study in aus.

The judge shouldn't be playing immigration official, its dangerous when people in authority step outside their role, and obviously wrong that a non-citizen is let-off when a citizen would be punished.

Non-citizens reside in a country at the whim of the govt, if people want a right to live in a country they need to apply for citizenship, until then they need to keep their nose clean.

Civics are very important in the functioning of a country, letting them slide is the path to ruin.

Last edited by Cybargs (2015-11-13 23:05:06)

Dilbert_X wrote:

They shouldn't be playing immigration official when they've got their criminal justice hat on, and you've contradicted yourself.

Last edited by DrunkFace (2015-12-14 04:14:28)

SuperJail Warden wrote:

Was a big deal made out of Australia being blocked from the Syrian peace talks due to an objection from Russia after Tony Abbott talked about shitfronting Putin?