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Well no surprises there, as we already know Israel owns the US govt.
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الشعب يريد اسقاط النظام
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Surprised nobody has mentioned it yet, but Israel recently intercepted a massive haul of Iranian weapons which they said were bound for Hezbollah/Syria. Lol
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343447.stm
Hezbollah response
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343819.stm
Iranian/Syrian response
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343673.stm
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And then Israel's response to "pics or it didn't happen"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343614.stm
Looks like Iran has been caught red handed here!
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343447.stm
Hezbollah response
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343819.stm
Iranian/Syrian response
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343673.stm
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And then Israel's response to "pics or it didn't happen"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343614.stm
Looks like Iran has been caught red handed here!
There was something the Syrian minister (of something) said when he was denying it. It was something like the weapons were imported from Syria and heading to Iran, when they weren't, and that there weren't any weapons on the ship. I wanted to /facepalm at that part. He also said something like it was a legitimate trade between Syria and Iran, despite the fact they hid the weapons behind sacks of civilian stuff.Mekstizzle wrote:
Surprised nobody has mentioned it yet, but Israel recently intercepted a massive haul of Iranian weapons which they said were bound for Hezbollah/Syria. Lol
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343447.stm
Hezbollah response
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343819.stm
Iranian/Syrian response
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343673.stm
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And then Israel's response to "pics or it didn't happen"
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/middle … 343614.stm
Looks like Iran has been caught red handed here!
Syria and Hezbollah are allowed to buy weapons.MOAB wrote:
Looks like Iran has been caught red handed here!
Shame no-one can intercept the 747s full of weapons the US sends to Israel.
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-11-05 16:21:01)
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Palestine needs a new leader as theirs just ragequit.
first time I see an arab leader leaves power voluntarily. I will not believe it until I see itATG wrote:
Palestine needs a new leader as theirs just ragequit.
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he's just using his possible resign to force concessions for the palestenians from the western countries...Beduin wrote:
first time I see an arab leader leaves power voluntarily. I will not believe it until I see itATG wrote:
Palestine needs a new leader as theirs just ragequit.
That or the West has effecvively pulled the rug from under him and he has no real choice.
Shame really, Palestine will probably then have a leader the West likes even less.
Shame really, Palestine will probably then have a leader the West likes even less.
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Key difference being that Israel and the US (or any of the other countries Israel/the US does business with) don't deny that it happens or try to hide it or obfuscate the source.Dilbert_X wrote:
Syria and Hezbollah are allowed to buy weapons.MOAB wrote:
Looks like Iran has been caught red handed here!
Shame no-one can intercept the 747s full of weapons the US sends to Israel.
Now why do you think Iran would do something like that? Weird, huh?
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http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/middle_east/8347145.stmIsraeli officials have expressed concern over the decision by Palestinian Authority President Mahmoud Abbas not to seek re-election.
Several officials suggested that if carried through, the move could hamper efforts to secure Middle East peace.
Mr Abbbas declared on Wednesday that he would not stand because of an impasse in peace negotiations.
But Arab and Israeli media said his announcement could be a tactical manoeuvre and he could change his mind.
It is thought that Mr Abbas, 74, could stay in post for some time, since the election that he called for 24 January may be postponed if Hamas carries through a threat to block the vote in Gaza.
As he announced his decision, Mr Abbas accused the US of backtracking on its Middle East policy and refusing to persuade Israel to freeze the construction of Jewish settlements in the occupied West Bank.
On Thursday, Israeli Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said it was an internal issue for the Palestinians, but hinted at Israeli opposition to the move.
"We don't interfere in others' internal affairs," he told Israeli radio.
"But it is evident that Israel and the United States are interested in a Palestinian leadership that is responsible and pragmatic," he said.
Earlier, Israeli Defence Minister Ehud Barak had issued a statement after Mr Abbas's speech expressing hope that the announcement would not damage "efforts to launch negotiations and achieve a peace accord".
And Israeli newspaper Haaretz reported that President Shimon Peres had called Mr Abbas a day before his announcement and tried to persuade him to change his mind.
"If you leave, the Palestinians would lose their chance for an independent state," the paper quoted Mr Peres as saying.
"The situation in the region would deteriorate. Stay, for the Palestinian people's sake."
Then maybe they should stop being total douchebags and using the settlement issue, which they already signed up to end as part of the Oslo accord, to make his position untenable?
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The latest attempt by the US president to salvage the Middle East peace talks appears to have come to nothing after his meeting with Israel's prime minister ended with only a brief statement from the White House.
Binyamin Netanyahu left the White House on Monday after spending an hour and forty minutes inside with Barack Obama, without making the customary public appearance with his host.
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ya i dont think they see eye to eye. only real thing to do that would mean anything would be to cutoff money to israel. dont think obama has the balls/power to do that though.Beduin wrote:
The latest attempt by the US president to salvage the Middle East peace talks appears to have come to nothing after his meeting with Israel's prime minister ended with only a brief statement from the White House.
Binyamin Netanyahu left the White House on Monday after spending an hour and forty minutes inside with Barack Obama, without making the customary public appearance with his host.
Hezbolla isn't...Dilbert_X wrote:
Syria and Hezbollah are allowed to buy weapons.MOAB wrote:
Looks like Iran has been caught red handed here!
Shame no-one can intercept the 747s full of weapons the US sends to Israel.
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One thing I've never understood is why Israel refuses to stop building settlements in the West Bank, what's the rationale behind that? How do they justify it, and what would it take for them to stop doing it?
It seems to be one of the major points about this whole thing. Probably has something to do with Jerusalem though.
It seems to be one of the major points about this whole thing. Probably has something to do with Jerusalem though.
Simple, their plan is to take the enitre West Bank eventually. If they just march in and wipe out the Palestinians they will be pariahs (more so).Mekstizzle wrote:
One thing I've never understood is why Israel refuses to stop building settlements in the West Bank, what's the rationale behind that? How do they justify it, and what would it take for them to stop doing it?
It seems to be one of the major points about this whole thing. Probably has something to do with Jerusalem though.
If they can continue pinching bits here and there they will win by attrition, if they can continue provoking the Palestinians into attacking Israel they have an excuse to attack in return and steal more land in the name of security - hence the wall.
This is their plan, and they are steadily achieving it.
See below:
All the talk of wanting peace and living side-by-side with Palestine is bullshit plain and simple.
Any halts in settlement building are only ever temporary and rarely observed, and they are quite apart from the expulsions and seizures of Palestinian homes.
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-11-15 15:26:18)
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The six day war is when the Muslims really screwed up and the Jews really scored good, all the damage has already happened decades ago
I guess you mean arabs, not all arabs are muslim.Mekstizzle wrote:
The six day war is when the Muslims really screwed up and the Jews really scored good, all the damage has already happened decades ago
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And not all Israelis are Jews.Dilbert_X wrote:
I guess you mean arabs, not all arabs are muslim.Mekstizzle wrote:
The six day war is when the Muslims really screwed up and the Jews really scored good, all the damage has already happened decades ago
But it seems to be OK to say "teh Joos".
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Ah whatever, you can't deny it's a mostly Muslim/Jew conflict. If it was just Arab and Israeli, you wouldn't have shit like non-Arab Muslims getting involved (e.g: Iran and Pakistan) and if it was just Israeli well you wouldn't have so many Jews around the world (eg: AIPAC or whatever its callled) trying so much to help Israel
But I thought it was only about land.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular