Poll

Is the Black Caucus racist?

Yes82%82% - 29
No5%5% - 2
Maybe11%11% - 4
Total: 35
Jay
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A little background. It's a coalition of black senators and congressmen who band together and back each other in the US government. Isn't forming a clique based on race in the same realm as the KKK?
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CameronPoe
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I would have thought the obvious answer is a resounding yes. Start a white caucus and see how long it lasts.
Jay
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Jay
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CameronPoe wrote:

I would have thought the obvious answer is a resounding yes. Start a white caucus and see how long it lasts.
I was thinking the same thing.
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jsnipy
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yes, it is based on "race" so it is "racist"
CameronPoe
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Bit sickening if you ask me.
mcgid1
Meh...
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wikipedia wrote:

Over the years, the question has arisen, "Does the Caucus allow only black members?" Pete Stark, D-Ca., who is white, tried and failed to join in 1975. In January 2007, it was reported that white members of Congress were not welcome to join the CBC.[5] Freshman Representative Steve Cohen, D-Tn., who is white, pledged to apply for membership during his election campaign to represent his constituents, who were 60% black. It was reported that although the bylaws of the caucus do not make race a prerequisite for membership, former and current members of the Caucus agreed that the group should remain "exclusively black." Rep. William Lacy Clay, Jr., D-Mo., the son of Rep. William Lacy Clay Sr., D-Mo., a co-founder of the caucus, is quoted as saying, "Mr. Cohen asked for admission, and he got his answer. He's white and the Caucus is black. It's time to move on. We have racial policies to pursue and we are pursuing them, as Mr. Cohen has learned. It's an unwritten rule. It's understood." In response to the decision, Rep. Cohen stated, "It's their caucus and they do things their way. You don't force your way in."

Clay issued an official statement from his office:

"Quite simply, Rep. Cohen will have to accept what the rest of the country will have to accept - there has been an unofficial Congressional White Caucus for over 200 years, and now it's our turn to say who can join 'the club.' He does not, and cannot, meet the membership criteria, unless he can change his skin color. Primarily, we are concerned with the needs and concerns of the black population, and we will not allow white America to infringe on those objectives."

On January 25, 2007, Representative Tom Tancredo, R-Co., spoke out against the continued existence of the CBC as well as the Democratic Congressional Hispanic Caucus and the Republican Congressional Hispanic Conference saying, "It is utterly hypocritical for Congress to extol the virtues of a color-blind society while officially sanctioning caucuses that are based solely on race. If we are serious about achieving the goal of a colorblind society, Congress should lead by example and end these divisive, race-based caucuses."[6]
Seems to fit the definition of racism to me.  They exclude non-blacks and have a race based adgenda.

That being said, it's not the same as the KKK or other hate groups, but it is still racist.

Last edited by mcgid1 (2009-10-08 16:12:07)

Flaming_Maniac
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It's incredibly stupid to compare a political group based on race to an organization that lynches black people.
ghettoperson
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mcgid1 wrote:

Seems to fit the definition of racism to me.  They exclude non-blacks and have a race based adgenda.

That being said, it's not the same as the KKK or other hate groups, but it is still racist.
Jay
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It's incredibly stupid to compare a political group based on race to an organization that lynches black people.
Sure it's a stretch, but not far off.
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SplinterStrike
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CameronPoe wrote:

I would have thought the obvious answer is a resounding yes. Start a white caucus and see how long it lasts.
Absolutely correct. And to FM, they may not lynch white people, but they sure seem to dislike whites.
ghettoperson
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Someone should start a White Caucus, and use the argument that there's a black one to defend it. They could discuss white issues, like Country Club membership and Barry Manilow.
jsnipy
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Racism is big business in America.
LividBovine
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I will have to pick up an issue of EBONY and watch me some BET to see if they are being racist as well.  EBONY and BET may be just fine as long as they are not promoting any racial bias.

Seriously though, I think the black caucus is a horrible idea.
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Flaming_Maniac
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JohnG@lt wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It's incredibly stupid to compare a political group based on race to an organization that lynches black people.
Sure it's a stretch, but not far off.
There is a very big difference between racially motivated legislation and burning crosses.

It's not even like we're talking black code type legislation.
LividBovine
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

JohnG@lt wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

It's incredibly stupid to compare a political group based on race to an organization that lynches black people.
Sure it's a stretch, but not far off.
There is a very big difference between racially motivated legislation and burning crosses.

It's not even like we're talking black code type legislation.
If you look at them as being right or wrong, they are not so different.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
Flaming_Maniac
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Because magnitude has nothing to do with anything. Extremism and mild political incorrectness are comparable.
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It's a kinda dumb thing to have but it's not a big enough deal for it to be worth making a poll over.
AussieReaper
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They are representing a minority. They aren't trying to destroy one.
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LividBovine
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Because magnitude has nothing to do with anything. Extremism and mild political incorrectness are comparable.
Never said magnitude has nothing to do with it.  You are either trying to deflect the argument or you are just being a tard.  Hard to decipher which sometimes.  The comparison is slightly related at best, but they are related.

AussieReaper wrote:

They are representing a minority. They aren't trying to destroy one.
So it is OK then?
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
Flaming_Maniac
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LividBovine wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Because magnitude has nothing to do with anything. Extremism and mild political incorrectness are comparable.
Never said magnitude has nothing to do with it.  You are either trying to deflect the argument or you are just being a tard.  Hard to decipher which sometimes.  The comparison is slightly related at best, but they are related.
The comparison is useful for nothing but mindless attack.
Pug
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probably

Here's a link where this guy probably would be valuable but has been rejected.  White legislator, married to a black woman, in a district which is 65% black.

http://www.just-a-regular-guy.com/2009/ … -65-black/
LividBovine
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

LividBovine wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Because magnitude has nothing to do with anything. Extremism and mild political incorrectness are comparable.
Never said magnitude has nothing to do with it.  You are either trying to deflect the argument or you are just being a tard.  Hard to decipher which sometimes.  The comparison is slightly related at best, but they are related.
The comparison is useful for nothing but mindless attack.
So you attack the mindless attack and ignore the base argument of whether or not the organization should exist or not.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
AussieReaper
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LividBovine wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

They are representing a minority. They aren't trying to destroy one.
So it is OK then?
If they were actively trying to commit genocide, incite racial violence and kill people then no it wouldn't be okay.

So, are they doing any of these things? And they promoting "racism"?

Seriously if they were you wouldn't see them in any form of the US government.
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LividBovine
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What are they representing in congress then?  Is there a black culture that needs to be protected?  Is this association based on anything other than the color of their skin?
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)

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