Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6738|Toronto | Canada

ive been using a logitech performance mouse mx on 2 different computers for about 2 years now and literally never had a problem, theyre fantastic.  just got a logitech wireless keyboard as well and its never been an issue either
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6771|PNW

that feel when:

>you're doing it wrong
>computer starts bluescreening randomly over a period of a week
>OS drive no longer recognized
>you switch SATA controllers on OS drive and successfully boot
>halfway through kaspersky scan, only to have it stop responding and force a restart, then no longer recognized again
>switch SATA cables, drive now recognized. kaspersky quickscan finds nothing, schedule a chkdsk /f, finds nothing on restart. freezes and restarts again, drive missing.
>you yank out your SSD in utter frustration only to find that one of the SATA power connectors was crushed and probably shorting against the chassis. seal in rubber, zip-tie out of the way.
>plug all drives back into their original controllers, reboot. storage drive not online. power yanked out of storage drive when you yanked SSD out. frantically creating fresh backups JUST IN CASE

>you look on admiringly at your new fist-shaped hole in the wall and reminisce about the skin that used to be on two knuckles. time to head to home depot while BR is filled with files.

https://i.imgur.com/ZaPwD.jpg

e: Why bother creating fancy cable routing chutes when you provide NO ROOM BETWEEN THE CHASSIS PLATE AND THE FUCKING FRAME?! The HAF bulges out away from the tray side to make room for possibly bulky CPU heatsinks, but is pretty much flush to everything else once you get past that and start going towards the front of the PC. I love this case, but it could've been better thought out.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6771|PNW

"destination path too long. you can shorten the filename blah blah blah blah"

THIS IS 20-FUCKING-12! Aren't we past shit like this, MICROSOFT?
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+682|6290|Washington St.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

"destination path too long. you can shorten the filename blah blah blah blah"

THIS IS 20-FUCKING-12! Aren't we past shit like this, MICROSOFT?
less subfolders!

or just UNIX that shit up nigga

do longer filenames create more fragments?  heh

Last edited by Kimmmmmmmmmmmm (2012-09-10 12:42:23)

unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6771|PNW

pirana6 wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

"destination path too long. you can shorten the filename blah blah blah blah"

THIS IS 20-FUCKING-12! Aren't we past shit like this, MICROSOFT?
less subfolders!

or just UNIX that shit up nigga

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dFUlAQZB9Ng
I swear I'll install Linux before I ever buy another Microsoft OS, and will probably break that promise when I build a new PC in 201x. Anyway, Windows 7 is nice, but seriously? It skipped over four jpeg files on the desktop because they had long filenames that SCARED WINDOWS.

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

do longer filenames create more fragments?  heh
Fragments on an SSD haw haw.
bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,311|6311

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

"destination path too long. you can shorten the filename blah blah blah blah"

THIS IS 20-FUCKING-12! Aren't we past shit like this, MICROSOFT?
C:\users\newb\desktop\MY.AWESOME.COLLECTION.OF.CLOWN.PORN.1080P.BLURAY.X264.AXXO.torrent
doesn't seem so long to me

Edit: apparently I broke live

Last edited by bugz (2012-09-10 13:19:22)

_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6716|Riva, MD
There's a registry setting to remove the file name character limit I think.  The only reason it still does it is like that is for legacy OS compatibility with file names

Last edited by _j5689_ (2012-09-10 13:09:28)

Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|4968|Dundee, Scotland.

bugz wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

"destination path too long. you can shorten the filename blah blah blah blah"

THIS IS 20-FUCKING-12! Aren't we past shit like this, MICROSOFT?
C:\users\newb\desktop\MY.AWESOME.COLLECTION.OF.CLOWN.PORN.1080P.BLURAY.X264.AXXO.torrent
doesn't seem so long to me

Edit: apparently I broke live
Rofl.
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
unnamednewbie13
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+2,053|6771|PNW

Whatever the case may be, I think I've narrowed it down. Power supply tests good and the CD/storage drives are seen on any controller (so I don't think it's the SATA controllers), so I'm guessing that the SSD may just be one of those ones that bites it after a year.

It was overdue for a Windows 7 installation, so I ran one and watched it crash after 15 minutes while testing file copy from the SSD to storage. My last option will be to go to the windows install ramdrive (X:>) and run the "diskpart, listdisk, select disc #, detaildisk, clean all" routine and reinstall once more. In fact, I should've done that in the first place (supposed to help fix SSD problems), but there were still some files I wanted.

If the thing continues to have issues, I'll give it a shot. If it still doesn't work, I'm gonna be in the market for a new drive. At the moment, I'm considering the Samsung 830 series, which I've heard good things about in regards to manufacturing quality. 256GB for $250, 512GB for $550. The 128GB is $100, but if I'm going to replace my 128GB SSD, I'm going to make it an upgrade so I'm not constantly stuck wrestling with under 20GB of free space once all my applications are installed.

Now...time to reboot and see if it gives me an endless flashing underscore again. FUN!

bugz wrote:

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

"destination path too long. you can shorten the filename blah blah blah blah"

THIS IS 20-FUCKING-12! Aren't we past shit like this, MICROSOFT?
C:\users\newb\desktop\MY.AWESOME.COLLECTION.OF.CLOWN.PORN.1080P.BLURAY.X264.AXXO.torrent
doesn't seem so long to me

Edit: apparently I broke live
Good guess, but not my username.

The files in question were apparently pics off the net assigned such extremely long filenames that Windows doesn't even know how to rename them. Either that or they're corrupt and Windows can't figure it out.

e: who the hell thinks up clown porn anyway? 0.o
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6771|PNW

I swear I can feel waves of amazement radiate from my desktop as Internet Explorer ecstatically realizes that it's actually being used.

e: REALLY thought I had it for a moment, but it reset while Windows 7 was running updates (might as well while I'm testing write). I'll give reinstallation a shot tomorrow morning after completely resetting the drive. I'm pretty sure it's the drive now, but I don't want to buy anything until I'm positive it's irreparable.

I've reset and worked over my BIOS settings. It's not up-to-date, but it was working fine until now. One thing I have noticed is that when Windows does crash out into a reset and won't restart due to the drive not being found, a cold boot will knock sense into it. 90% of the time.

Still not anything I want to bother reloading work/game apps onto, though.
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6690|Devon, England
My HAF has enough room for my cables.

And I have two Power Supplies.
Camm
Feeding the Cats.
+761|4968|Dundee, Scotland.

FFLink wrote:

My HAF has enough room for my cables.

And I have two Power Supplies.
Why?
for a fatty you're a serious intellectual lightweight.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6771|PNW

So I flattened the drive from the W7 install command prompt and still had problems getting it to install.

Right, so I remembered one of the things I had to do to get a stable installation in the first place was remove half of my 16GB RAM, install windows from a slower SATA controller, then shut down, reinstall the remaining RAM and move the drive to the high-speed controller. Rolling through the massive Windows 7 update. I'll leave it alone and see if it crashes. Still going to run memtest later today, but I'm fairly certain it's not the problem.

FFLink wrote:

My HAF has enough room for my cables.

And I have two Power Supplies.
The most irritating issue is that my cables are as flush to the frame as I can get them without bundling them up and not using the cable routing system in the first place. When I put the side cover on, it's still a tight fit. Part of it has to do with the fact that I'm wrestling with plugs on leads. Overall, they could've given us a bit more room back there...and...why do you have two power supplies?

e: OK recrash. Memtest time, though I'm not expecting to find anything.

peace

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I swear I can feel waves of amazement radiate from my desktop as Internet Explorer ecstatically realizes that it's actually being used....
love this 'waves of amazement radiate from my desktop' .fookin ie
/


what kind of teraflops are you caluculating wiff all dis powa FFLink? what is dis creation?!



/

i was curious about the clown porn also, bugz.
pirana6
Go Cougs!
+682|6290|Washington St.

unnamednewbie13 wrote:

The files in question were apparently pics off the net assigned such extremely long filenames that Windows doesn't even know how to rename them.
Yeah I've run into that but they weren't from teh intorwebz they were from some Mac system on an external drive. How would windows even allow you to download them if they were too long?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6771|PNW

Good news, everyone! Memtest brought back 10 errors from 15 hours of grinding. Before I try anything else, I'm going to crank the RAM back to below-spec at 1100 and see what happens. G.Skill, I am disappoint.

Not to say it doesn't mean that the SSD hasn't soft-failed, just that the RAM/MB are now more suspect than before.

---

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

love this 'waves of amazement radiate from my desktop' .fookin ie
/
I kind of felt bad about ignoring it for so long. It's not an awful browser...

Then again, I've just installed Netscape Navigator 9 for lols. It even has a 'MERICA header.



pirana6 wrote:

Yeah I've run into that but they weren't from teh intorwebz they were from some Mac system on an external drive. How would windows even allow you to download them if they were too long?
Because Microsoft.
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6771|PNW

OK, short summary:

CPU - 2600K
Motherboard: Asus P8Z68V-Pro
VIDEO: GTX 570 + GTX 560 physx
RAM: G.SKILL Ripjaws X Series 16GB (4 x 4GB) DDR3-1333
SSD: Crucial M4 128GB
OS: Windows 7 Ultimate x64

History: Built late August, early September 2011. Functioned fine up until about a week ago, over which span of time the following issue grew more frequent and problematic:

Issue: blue screens at random intervals ranging from 15 minutes to 4 hours; afterwards, SSD disappears from post until cold boot.


Steps taken:
1) SSD swapped to different ports and controllers. issues persist. noted that mechanical drive and optical drives did not vanish. at this point, I suspected that the SSD was having issues and was considering an upgrade to Samsung 830 256GB or 512GB.
2) windows reinstallation over existing windows copy. issues persist. (also crashed once during one install attempt).
3) windows reinstallation over command prompt drive overwrite (with diskpart's clean all) . issues persist.
4) memtest on all four DIMM's. 10 errors in 15 hours. it was here that I got a sinking feeling in the pit of my stomach.
5) reset BIOS to default and reconfigured. issues persisted through the next windows session.
6) reduced memory frequency. issues persist.
7) loosened memory timing. issues persist.

I'm really hoping that it's the RAM and not the motherboard. Here's what I plan to do:
1) Remove the GTX 560. Don't think this will help at all, but worth a shot.
2) Upgrade BIOS. I DOUBT this will work, since I was functioning fine up until now, but it's worth a shot.
3) Memtest on single DIMM's. If no errors found, memtest on different combinations of DIMM pairs. If errors found, replace "problematic" DIMM with known good DIMM. If errors still found, replace motherboard.
So right now, I'm just letting memtest do its thing while tapping away at my old-ass laptop. Anyone have any input on this? Something I've missed or overlooked? I can tell ya right now that I'd much rather simply buy a new computer than spend the next few days memtesting, but whatever.



EDIT:
I'll update with minutiae here.

RAM setup:

DIMM1, slot A1; DIMM2, slot A2; DIMM3, slot B1; DIMM4, slot B2
Recommended settings:
single DIMM, slot A2
dual DIMM, slots A2, B2
MEMTEST results:

DIMMs 2 & 4, Slots A2 & B2 - ~5 hours, 8 passes, no errors
So...
1) I got lucky.
2) DIMMs 1 or 3 or both are bad.
3) Slots A1 or B1 or both are bad.

Onto the following:

1) I'm going to play around for the remainder of the afternoon to see if it crashes.
2) Overnight, I'll memtest DIMMs 1 and 3 in slots A2 and B2. If there are errors by the time I wake up, I'll run each for a few hours in slot A2 (as recommended by the manual for single-DIMM setups). If there are no errors, I'm going to assume that one or both of the remaining slots are bad and see if I can memtest that.

If it turns out that I am indeed stuck using two DIMMs to keep it running stable, I suppose I'll satisfied. 8GB is still better than any previous computer I've ever owned. I'll gladly take the remaining two DIMMs (if they work) and stick them in another DDR3 machine. WAY better than having to replace the motherboard.

I don't do this for a living anymore. Though not much seems to have changed method-wise, there's enough new stuff that I still appreciate input, especially if I'm derping on something obvious.
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5178|Sydney
What time today is the iPhone 5 announced?
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
+2,197|6671|UK
\_/ o clock
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6389
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bugz
Fission Mailed
+3,311|6311

Jaekus wrote:

What time today is the iPhone 5 announced?
http://m.engadget.com/2012/09/12/iphone … announced/

If you haven't found it already
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6667

I disconnected from the Visual Studio 2012 Virtual Launch after about 15 minutes.  But still getting hammered by Twitter updates...
Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6738|Toronto | Canada

so... even with an update they still cant introduce anything remotely significant other phones dont have? and no nfc? lte a year and a half late? dropped the ball on this one

i was at least looking forward to nfc since it would promote its status and make retailers support it for payment. alas...
Ilocano
buuuurrrrrrppppp.......
+341|6667

Even so, looks like our household will be sporting three iPhone 5's by the end of September.

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