Macbeth
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So with the castle law you have a right to defend your property by any means. So if I had cats from the house next door going out into my back yard and having sex and eating my plants at night would I have the legal right to shoot the cats or to leave posion to kill them?

They are on my property and they are causing damages.
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mcminty
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You are concerned the cat may pose a risk of violent attack to you?
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I call shenanigans on this thread
Flaming_Maniac
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mcminty wrote:

You are concerned the cat may pose a risk of violent attack to you?
Not always necessary for Castle Law. Depends on the state.
13rin
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Just trap it and take it to the pound.
If your municipality is like mine the pound will charge the owner a fee to free its animal.  The fee usually doubles each time.  After a few captures, the owner will owe several hundred dollars to the city/county.  This will be force the owner to either get rid of the animal or change it to an indoor cat.  You may get lucky for the owner may just neglect to check the local pound for "fluffy"-then it'll most likely be put to sleep.

*edit:  I've heard cats find antifreeze rather yummy -even though it is highly toxic.

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2009-09-21 05:33:34)

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mcminty
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

mcminty wrote:

You are concerned the cat may pose a risk of violent attack to you?
Not always necessary for Castle Law. Depends on the state.
I know, but in general.. from that wiki page you linked

While you could argue that an intruder does pose a risk of violent attack, the very nature of a cat is that.. well it doesn't. Unless you are retarded. Thus, one shouldn't be able to just kill it, and go running to the Castle Doctrine.
mcminty
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And on to your actual cat problem macbeth. If you know who it belongs to, then tell them that their cat has been on your property, doing this and that, and that if it continues you will take action. Then, this occurs:

DBBrinson1 wrote:

Just trap it and take it to the pound.
If your municipality is like mine the pound will charge the owner a fee to free its animal.  The fee usually doubles each time.  After a few captures, the owner will owe several hundred dollars to the city/county.  This will be force the owner to either get rid of the animal or change it to an indoor cat.  You may get lucky for the owner may just neglect to check the local pound for "fluffy"-then it'll most likely be put to sleep.
And problem solved eventually.


If it were a bigger and more violent animal, and it were attacking say your pet or a small child, then killing the animal could be justified. However, baiting and poisoning it would be totally immoral.
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Macbeth wrote:

So with the castle law you have a right to defend your property by any means. So if I had cats from the house next door going out into my back yard and having sex and eating my plants at night would I have the legal right to shoot the cats or to leave posion to kill them?

They are on my property and they are causing damages.
Lets paws for a minute and reflect on what he has said. There could be a catastrophe with a feline in someone's garden.
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mcminty wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

mcminty wrote:

You are concerned the cat may pose a risk of violent attack to you?
Not always necessary for Castle Law. Depends on the state.
I know, but in general.. from that wiki page you linked

While you could argue that an intruder does pose a risk of violent attack, the very nature of a cat is that.. well it doesn't. Unless you are retarded. Thus, one shouldn't be able to just kill it, and go running to the Castle Doctrine.
Cats scratch and can carry dangerous diseases....
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Speak to the owner and stop looking for an excuse to kill things.
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mcminty wrote:

And on to your actual cat problem macbeth. If you know who it belongs to, then tell them that their cat has been on your property, doing this and that, and that if it continues you will take action. Then, this occurs:

If it were a bigger and more violent animal, and it were attacking say your pet or a small child, then killing the animal could be justified. However, baiting and poisoning it would be totally immoral.
I would recommend not discussing this with the neighbor.  I would refrain because when (not if) the trapping/pound strategy is implemented, it is best not to have the neighbor knowing it was you trapping his pussy.

Yes baiting and poisoning would be immoral, but so is irresponsible pet ownership.  I wouldn't recommend the antifreeze solution for it is too indiscriminate. 

A hostile animal in my lawn will quickly become a dead animal in my lawn.  I keep a box a generic doggie treats in my garage.  They work great to distract a dog if needed until....
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You're a sick bunch, wanting to bait and kill other people's pets over a stupid lawn or plant.
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Flaming_Maniac
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mcminty wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

mcminty wrote:

You are concerned the cat may pose a risk of violent attack to you?
Not always necessary for Castle Law. Depends on the state.
I know, but in general.. from that wiki page you linked

While you could argue that an intruder does pose a risk of violent attack, the very nature of a cat is that.. well it doesn't. Unless you are retarded. Thus, one shouldn't be able to just kill it, and go running to the Castle Doctrine.
But not, for example, my state, the next most pertinent one considering NJ doesn't have a Castle Law.
Dilbert_X
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So with the castle law you have a right to defend your property by any means.
Thats wrong for starters.
They are on my property and they are causing damages.
And I'd imagine its your parents property, so calm down, let them deal with it.

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-09-21 07:31:35)

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Mekstizzle
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So the first thing that comes across your mind is to kill the cat. Not to talk to the cat owners, or do anything else. gg. You know you fail at life when you think like that.

The fucking cat is eating your plants. Who gives a shit.
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Mekstizzle wrote:

So the first thing that comes across your mind is to kill the cat. Not to talk to the cat owners, or do anything else. gg. You know you fail at life when you think like that.

The fucking cat is eating your plants. Who gives a shit.
If he gardens.  What do you care?  I thought Muslims ate cats...
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Mekstizzle
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Alright firstly, why do you think I'm a Muslim? Where the hell did you get that idea?

Secondly, I don't give a shit that he gardens. The bit that I was focusing on is the fact that he wants to kill a cat for eating his plants, I mean for fuck sake. That's just all round failure.

Thirdly, Muslims eat cats? Or were you just trying to troll in some sort of stupid way because you think I'm a Muslim so you thought you'd throw in some stupid comment about Muslims and cats


Fuck off for calling me a Muslim, and fuck off for trying to troll. Fucking dumb shit.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-09-21 08:38:19)

13rin
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Mekstizzle wrote:

Alright firstly, why do you think I'm a Muslim? Where the hell did you get that idea?

Secondly, I don't give a shit that he gardens. The bit that I was focusing on is the fact that he wants to kill a cat for eating his plants, I mean for fuck sake. That's just all round failure.

Thirdly, Muslims eat cats? Or were you just trying to troll in some sort of stupid way because you think I'm a Muslim so you thought you'd throw in some stupid comment about Muslims and cats


Fuck off for calling me a Muslim, and fuck off for trying to troll. Fucking dumb shit.
hehe.  Yer' over the top panty wadding response to a playful jab was fail.  hesues cristo... fucking dumb shit.

*edit: for debate.  Lets suppose Mac is a farmer... Vermin eating his crop would be a problem.  Would you let an animal keep you from feeding your family?

Last edited by DBBrinson1 (2009-09-21 09:19:27)

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Dilbert_X
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Vermin eating a crop is not the same as the neighbours cat chewing his mum's plant.
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13rin
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Vermin eating a crop is not the same as the neighbours cat chewing his mum's plant.
semantics.
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Its a different situation entirely.
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13rin
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Its a different situation entirely.
Does a farmer grow plants?  Did Mac's mom grow plants?  Do farmers shoot animals f'n with their plants?

Who's property is this taking place on?  You don't want bad thing to happen to your animals?  Try keeping them on a leash or own your own property.
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