Obama gets rid of missle shield right as IAEA says Iran can make nukes

2009-09-17 16:01:50

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Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5587

The White House is scrapping a Bush-era plan for an Eastern European missile-defense shield, saying a redesigned defensive system would be cheaper, quicker and more effective against the threat from Iranian missiles.

"After an extensive process, I have approved the unanimous recommendations of my secretary of defense and my joint chiefs of staff to strengthen America's defenses against ballistic-missile attack," President Barack Obama said in an announcement Thursday morning.

The previous administration's plans will be changed, moving away from the installation of a missile-defense shield in the Czech Republic and Poland in the near future. A second phase to begin in 2015 could result in missiles being placed on land in Eastern Europe.

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB125317801774419047.html

Experts at the world's top atomic watchdog agree that Tehran has the ability to make a nuclear bomb and is on the way to developing a missile system able to carry an atomic warhead, according to a secret report seen by The Associated Press.

http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,551501,00.html
So do you have trust in Obamas judgment or are you afraid now? I'm not worried myself but I am interested in what others have to say.

2009-09-17 16:05:17

#2

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5703|College Park, MD

what the hell do defenses in Eastern Europe do for us?

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2009-09-17 16:20:59

#3

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5359|London, England

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
what the hell do defenses in Eastern Europe do for us?

Easier to shoot down a missile closer to its source and any potential fallout would end up in those countries instead of ours.

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2009-09-17 16:31:34

#4

Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6223|Brisneyland

This is a good thing. Iran knows if it tries anything, it will be wiped off the face of the earth. The US will also save billions of bucks, and stay mates with the ruskies. Be more worried about the nukes in Pakistan.... seriously be worried about it.

2009-09-17 16:33:58

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2009-09-18 00:10:13

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CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6556

Good for Obama. Europe should look after itself. Fucking Eastern European governments selling their sovereignty so cheaply. The people of those nations were broadly opposed anyway so this is good news all round I guess.

2009-09-18 00:19:48

#7

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6602|132 and Bush

Good.. let europe burn.

jk. It looks like the leaders were going against the wishes of the population here. ... although this seems to be more of Obama's doing.

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2009-09-18 00:28:58

#8

Reciprocity: Member; +721|6582|the dank(super) side of Oregon

we've still got our satellite mounted laser cannons.

2009-09-18 00:39:12

#9

TrueMusou: Member; +36|6162|United States Of Hamerica

Why are you worried? We have mobile ICBMs that are so accurate, they can destroy your microwave oven. The extent of Iran's nuclear missile program is probably going to be at BEST a stage where it can launch a missile from a large stationary launch pad that has the range to hit its next door neighbor.

2009-09-18 03:22:51

#10

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6717

TrueMusou wrote:
Why are you worried? We have mobile ICBMs that are so accurate, they can destroy your microwave oven. The extent of Iran's nuclear missile program is probably going to be at BEST a stage where it can launch a missile from a large stationary launch pad that has the range to hit its next door neighbor.

https://southchild.com/images/20080709IranMissilePhotoshop3a.jpg

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2009-09-18 03:51:17

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6154|what

The White House is scrapping a Bush-era plan for an Eastern European missile-defense shield, saying a redesigned defensive system would be cheaper, quicker and more effective against the threat from Iranian missiles.

You had me at hello.

2009-09-18 04:17:58

#12

Mekstizzle: WALKER; +3,611|6622|London, England

CameronPoe wrote:
Good for Obama. Europe should look after itself. Fucking Eastern European governments selling their sovereignty so cheaply. The people of those nations were broadly opposed anyway so this is good news all round I guess.

But that's all those Eastern European countries/governments are used to. They did it to the USSR, now the USA. The people just get screwed either way.

And yeah, didn't the article already say they're still developing an even better system for Iran's missles?

2009-09-18 04:20:14

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Red Forman: Banned; +402|5401

sigh. nobody really listens to what obama says. he is going to put anti-missle destroyers off the coast of iran instead.

2009-09-18 05:14:08

#14

13rin: Member; +977|6480

Kmarion wrote:
It looks like the leaders were going against the wishes of the population here.

Yea, kinda a trend with this administration. The Supreme Community Organizer seems to enjoy kissing the asses of those who hate us.

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2009-09-18 05:24:56

#15

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6676|Canberra, AUS

DBBrinson1 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
It looks like the leaders were going against the wishes of the population here.
Yea, kinda a trend with this administration. The Supreme Community Organizer seems to enjoy kissing the asses of those who hate us.

Yeah, damn. Those people shouldn't get a say in anything...

PS. I wouldn't call NATO members 'haters'.

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2009-09-18 05:28:40

#16

13rin: Member; +977|6480

Spark wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
It looks like the leaders were going against the wishes of the population here.
Yea, kinda a trend with this administration. The Supreme Community Organizer seems to enjoy kissing the asses of those who hate us.
Yeah, damn. Those people shouldn't get a say in anything...

PS. I wouldn't call NATO members 'haters'.

Screw NATO. Screw Russia.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2009-09-18 05:31:12

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Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6469

Best way to shoot down an Iranian missile is with a sling-shot.

2009-09-18 08:35:49

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cpt.fass1: The Cap'n Can Make it Hap'n; +329|6697|NJ

bring back the star wars program

It's funny how all these huge budget Defense programs went up with the bush era, didn't he have vested interest with alot of those companies?

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2009-09-18 12:53:46

#19

Bertster7: Confused Pothead; +1,101|6582|SE London

DBBrinson1 wrote:
Spark wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:

Yea, kinda a trend with this administration. The Supreme Community Organizer seems to enjoy kissing the asses of those who hate us.
Yeah, damn. Those people shouldn't get a say in anything...

PS. I wouldn't call NATO members 'haters'.
Screw NATO. Screw Russia.

It's that attitude that makes people haters....

Obama is doing a good job of getting them back on good terms.

2009-09-18 12:58:36

#20

13rin: Member; +977|6480

Bertster7 wrote:
It's that attitude that makes people haters....

Obama is doing a good job of getting them back on good terms.

Obama is being naive if he think he's getting America back on good terms with rogue states such as Nkorea, Russia, and Iran. There is no such thing as good terms.

I remember back when the Bamster offered Russia the missle shield in exchange for them pressuring Iran not to develope nukes. Russia said "piss off". So what do we do? Give it up anyways. It is f'n retarded foreign policy.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2009-09-18 17:06:36

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Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6223|Brisneyland

Russia is a rogue state? Thats news to me.

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2009-09-18 17:14:40

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FatherTed: xD; +3,936|6501|so randum

Someone point out the cons of a cheaper system that doesnt infringe on the wishes of other people to me?

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2009-09-18 18:59:03

#23

Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6223|Brisneyland

FatherTed wrote:
Someone point out the cons of a cheaper system that doesnt infringe on the wishes of other people to me?

Ted , everyone knows that the best way to conduct diplomacy is to threaten other countries, or better still , just invade them. Whats wrong, are you a communist or something?

2009-09-19 00:56:58

#24

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6602|132 and Bush

Spark wrote:
DBBrinson1 wrote:
Kmarion wrote:
It looks like the leaders were going against the wishes of the population here.
Yea, kinda a trend with this administration. The Supreme Community Organizer seems to enjoy kissing the asses of those who hate us.
Yeah, damn. Those people shouldn't get a say in anything...

PS. I wouldn't call NATO members 'haters'.

I was talking about Poland ignoring the majority of it's population. The decision to put them there in the first place was a very unpopular one.

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2009-09-19 01:04:25

#25

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6602|132 and Bush

Red Forman wrote:
he is going to put anti-missle destroyers off the coast of iran instead.

I would like to see this tested more.

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Spark wrote:

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Bertster7 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

Spark wrote:

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