Lucien
Fantasma Parastasie
+1,451|6911
One day there will be a pmp with the video playback capabilities of MPC+CCCP+some other crap

And I'll buy it
https://i.imgur.com/HTmoH.jpg
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Where would you go that you need to bring HD movies around with you? I bring my laptop to the tvs around the house with its HDMI

Also, not a lot of movies use mp4.  You'd probably have to encode them yourself for a majority of them.  I wouldnt buy it for playing movies anyways, it looks like a great step up from my ipod touch
As I said before bringing a zune over to a friend or family's house is much easier than setting up shop with a laptop. It is also good idea for travel.

Every single one of the movies on my zune now is mp4. Where are you getting your movies from?
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

Oh, I see.  Yeah, I'd never really do that so thats why it doesnt interest me much.

Really? All mine are from private trackers I've only seen a couple movies with mp4 in HD... where do you get yours?
justice
OctoPoster
+978|6999|OctoLand
Needs more GB, then I will definitely want this.
I know fucking karate
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Oh, I see.  Yeah, I'd never really do that so thats why it doesnt interest me much.

Really? All mine are from private trackers I've only seen a couple movies with mp4 in HD... where do you get yours?
Usenet.

Btw, I like the idea.. that doesn't mean that it's going to work 100% as specified. Tis why I said I would wait at least a month before considering purchase.
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VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6650|Southern California

Kimmmmmmmmmmmm wrote:

the iphone is a better deal and awsumr
Eh? the zune is not a phone so it would be compared to the touch... and how is it a better deal when the 32gig zune costs less then the 16 gig itouch?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

Further research has revealed that a good deal of my movies are in this format.

https://i28.tinypic.com/nxsxmv.jpg
Mpeg-4 720
Which is fully compatible
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VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6650|Southern California
Your the only one

All my HD movies (very few) and all the ones I have seen for download have been in MKV.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

I have plenty mkv as well.. but perusing over usenet I don't see why I cant get nearly everything in that format. The few I can't will be converted.

another one for shiz and giz..

https://i28.tinypic.com/2dimxbp.jpg

https://i29.tinypic.com/2gy9h4w.jpg
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

Kmarion wrote:

Further research has revealed that a good deal of my movies are in this format.

http://i28.tinypic.com/nxsxmv.jpg
Mpeg-4 720
Which is fully compatible
Thats a pretty brutal video bitrate for HD, not even 2000kbps? Scene 720p rips are around 4500kbps area

I'll stick to my x264 mkvs

Edit: Also, thats not 720p lol, 720p is 1280x720 (or whatever cropped value is)

Last edited by Winston_Churchill (2009-08-26 06:57:27)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Further research has revealed that a good deal of my movies are in this format.

http://i28.tinypic.com/nxsxmv.jpg
Mpeg-4 720
Which is fully compatible
Thats a pretty brutal video bitrate for HD, not even 2000kbps? Scene 720p rips are around 4500kbps area

I'll stick to my x264 mkvs

Edit: Also, thats not 720p lol, 720p is 1280x720 (or whatever cropped value is)
2 gig and under. .. that's was what I thought was nice.
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

Kmarion wrote:

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Further research has revealed that a good deal of my movies are in this format.

http://i28.tinypic.com/nxsxmv.jpg
Mpeg-4 720
Which is fully compatible
Thats a pretty brutal video bitrate for HD, not even 2000kbps? Scene 720p rips are around 4500kbps area

I'll stick to my x264 mkvs

Edit: Also, thats not 720p lol, 720p is 1280x720 (or whatever cropped value is)
2 gig and under. .. that's was what I thought was nice.
But its also not HD, which was what the whole point of this argument was   Thats just a high quality DVD rip, which you could probably do the same with a 1.3GB x264 mkv rip.

Anyways, I just wish someone implemented what WD did with their Media Player drives, they support x264 mkv with HDMI output and 1080p support. Put those codecs into that (maybe not even 1080p, just 720p) and Microsoft would have a winner on their hands
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

Size was my point.. http://www.riverpast.com/en/support/tut … kv/mp4.php
makes "the argument" obsolete.. 'course if you read what I wrote earlier MS claims that Zune 4.0 will do this at sync. MKV included.


I just don't see getting HD movies on the Zune as a problem.
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

Kmarion wrote:

Size was my point.. http://www.riverpast.com/en/support/tut … kv/mp4.php
makes "the argument" obsolete.. 'course if you read what I wrote earlier MS claims that Zune 4.0 will do this at sync.
But we were talking about HD

Anyways, if size was your argument then the x264 rips are better than your xvid ones.  Also, I wouldnt want to convert my videos since
a) I have close to 1000
b) It would take up all that space having copies of movies
c) It would take ages to convert all those
d) Transcodes always have significant quality loss

I never saw this, they're going to support x264 mkv?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

See edit. Most descent transcending program will let you adjust the quality. I don't think anyone is putting their entire movie collection (thousands) on their portable media players .

Right now it does not support mkv natively. At least not from what I have seen.
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

Kmarion wrote:

See edit. Most descent transcending program will let you adjust the quality. I don't think anyone is putting their entire movie collection (thousands) on their portable media players .

Right now it does not support mkv natively. At least not from what I have seen.
Okay true, but still... Lower quality from transcode is guaranteed, you have to encode from source for good quality.  Also I'm still wasting both hard drive space and time when this should be implemented from the start.

Have you ever done any encoding? Those one click encoders/transcoders are considered terrible by the community, it takes a good 8-10 hours on a good computer to do a proper DVD rip, much longer for a HD movie.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

The "community" provides me with everything I need as it is on usenet (H.264/MPEG-4). I rarely need to use any type of encoding software. History has also shown that with demand .. after a release.. options and availability also increase.
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

There would still be a vast amount of movies unavailable since there is a far, far greater demand for x264 mkv rips than there are for mp4 ones.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

Of course you are speaking about right now.. and of course the Zune HD has not been released. Yes there are more mkv files out there atm. If you look over this thread you will note that I said I would wait at least a month before considering purchase.. as of right now the zune hd looks more promising than the overpriced iPod touch. .. or "a step up".
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justice
OctoPoster
+978|6999|OctoLand
Torrenting is bad guys
I know fucking karate
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

justice wrote:

Torrenting is bad guys
O' I know.. and I don't.

True story.
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VicktorVauhn
Member
+319|6650|Southern California

Kmarion wrote:

justice wrote:

Torrenting is bad guys
O' I know.. and I don't.

True story.
We were talking about the HD independent movies made as projects by film students that we download.

We wouldn't download a copyrighted movie, those sales are how people make a living. If we downloaded how could they feed their families?
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6859|132 and Bush

VicktorVauhn wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

justice wrote:

Torrenting is bad guys
O' I know.. and I don't.

True story.
We were talking about the HD independent movies made as projects by film students that we download.

We wouldn't download a copyrighted movie, those sales are how people make a living. If we downloaded how could they feed their families?
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Winston_Churchill
Bazinga!
+521|6997|Toronto | Canada

Hmm, I actually just lost my ipod touch so I'm in the market for something new.

These apparently aren't being sold in Canada so I could pay a premium to buy one off ebay.  Or I could get a new Touch since there is apparently a huge new revision coming out in response to the Zunes.

The new iPod touch is out. It has a new design: chrome rim, with a tapered back similar to the iPhone, but thinner. It now includes external volume controls as well. It also has Nike+ integrated with no transmitter needed (you still need the in-shoe transmitter, but it has an RFID receiver built-in) as well as on-the-fly genius playlist creation, all included in the new iPhone 2.1 software. It also comes with new prices, available today: $229 for the 8GB, $299 for the 16GB, and $399 for the 32GB. That's $100 cheaper than before. Here are all the features
New iPod touch: All iPod models have been discontinued in the stock databases, so new units are a given, even if they arrive to the shops later than expected. The only question is the feature set. Would it have a new camera? Looks very likely, as new cases pop absolutely everywhere. New storage capacities? It is a very strong possibility. A new processor, once again leapfrogging the iPhone? Perhaps new materials? We will see about that. Hopefully, it won't be just our imagination.
Same price as the Zune + camera and apps?  Zune is going to need a bit more to convince me right now, especially considering Microsoft isn't selling them here!
CosmoKramer
CC you in October
+131|6877|Medford, WI

Winston_Churchill wrote:

Hmm, I actually just lost my ipod touch so I'm in the market for something new.

These apparently aren't being sold in Canada so I could pay a premium to buy one off ebay.  Or I could get a new Touch since there is apparently a huge new revision coming out in response to the Zunes.

The new iPod touch is out. It has a new design: chrome rim, with a tapered back similar to the iPhone, but thinner. It now includes external volume controls as well. It also has Nike+ integrated with no transmitter needed (you still need the in-shoe transmitter, but it has an RFID receiver built-in) as well as on-the-fly genius playlist creation, all included in the new iPhone 2.1 software. It also comes with new prices, available today: $229 for the 8GB, $299 for the 16GB, and $399 for the 32GB. That's $100 cheaper than before. Here are all the features
New iPod touch: All iPod models have been discontinued in the stock databases, so new units are a given, even if they arrive to the shops later than expected. The only question is the feature set. Would it have a new camera? Looks very likely, as new cases pop absolutely everywhere. New storage capacities? It is a very strong possibility. A new processor, once again leapfrogging the iPhone? Perhaps new materials? We will see about that. Hopefully, it won't be just our imagination.
Same price as the Zune + camera and apps?  Zune is going to need a bit more to convince me right now, especially considering Microsoft isn't selling them here!
same price are you kidding? the 32gig zunehd is $289 still more than a $100 less than the similar ipod touch, but yeah i guess that camera really makes up for that $100 ....

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