Well, it has been a few days now, I guess Ken isn't going to step up and prove his point, with an apples to apples comparison that blacks are paid less because they are black. Shocked, I am not.
I just like the fact of how quickly lowing was to call this guy a shithead. Im gonna use the line a lot of people use here
"How do you know he is a shithead? Do you know him personally?!?"
"How do you know he is a shithead? Do you know him personally?!?"
When will people understand that no matter what skin color you have, when an officer talk, you SHUT UP and LISTEN....under any circumstance should you try to play the thought guy, that only work on the internet....those cops seen hundred of Mr. Thought guy waving their stick around...
Tl:dr: Police talk, you shut up.
Tl:dr: Police talk, you shut up.
All ya gotta do is read the article. What more do you want.destruktion_6143 wrote:
I just like the fact of how quickly lowing was to call this guy a shithead. Im gonna use the line a lot of people use here
"How do you know he is a shithead? Do you know him personally?!?"
No one here knows me personally, and yet everyone has an opinion as to what I am like based on my posts. Unfortunately I am allowed that same judgement of others.
Also do not be a hater because I was proven right.
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Well the liberals here think the police should be charged with defending you at all times, at the same tme however, they also feel they can treat the police anyway they want to because it is their "right". Don't believe me? Just ask them.Roger Lesboules wrote:
When will people understand that no matter what skin color you have, when an officer talk, you SHUT UP and LISTEN....under any circumstance should you try to play the thought guy, that only work on the internet....those cops seen hundred of Mr. Thought guy waving their stick around...
Tl:dr: Police talk, you shut up.
Ken are you ever gunna come back witrh your proof that black people make less than white people because they are black?
Is it so hard to look up some figures yourself?lowing wrote:
Ken are you ever gunna come back witrh your proof that black people make less than white people because they are black?
http://www.infoplease.com/us/census/med … -2006.html
You may not realise but women also generally earn less than men, even when holding the same position...
Imagine if police where thinking this way..."Meh its my right not to risk my life for a poor son of a bitch like you". Stupid ungrateful people make me rage!lowing wrote:
Well the liberals here think the police should be charged with defending you at all times, at the same tme however, they also feel they can treat the police anyway they want to because it is their "right". Don't believe me? Just ask them.Roger Lesboules wrote:
When will people understand that no matter what skin color you have, when an officer talk, you SHUT UP and LISTEN....under any circumstance should you try to play the thought guy, that only work on the internet....those cops seen hundred of Mr. Thought guy waving their stick around...
Tl:dr: Police talk, you shut up.
UK women 'earn 27% less than men'AussieReaper wrote:
Is it so hard to look up some figures yourself?lowing wrote:
Ken are you ever gunna come back witrh your proof that black people make less than white people because they are black?
http://i27.tinypic.com/jzfrqe.jpg
http://www.infoplease.com/us/census/med … -2006.html
You may not realise but women also generally earn less than men, even when holding the same position...
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/4195852.stm
If you found the above just too hard Lowing here is a bespoke guide i created just for you cos i am nice like that:
http://lmgtfy.com/?q=women+earn+less+than+men
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
So Wtf Lowing? Its Been Like 5 Hours And % Minutes Are You Going To Reply Or Not?
You Take The Fucking Piss Man.
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7 hours. Not happy.
You Take The Fucking Piss Man.
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7 hours. Not happy.
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Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
To both of you, (Aussie and M3thod)
Feel free to post links showing whites make more than blacks in an APPLES TO APPLES comparison. Same goes for the women comparison ( since your article did not say it was the same job that was being compared)
Until you do this, your posts about discrimination because a black cop makes less than a white lawyer proves nothing.
Remember, as has been stated a few time already, show me where a black man makes less because he is black when ALL OTHER FACTORS are the EXACT SAME.
At least Ken Jennings was smart enough to run away and abandon the thread when he couldn't prove it.
Feel free to post links showing whites make more than blacks in an APPLES TO APPLES comparison. Same goes for the women comparison ( since your article did not say it was the same job that was being compared)
Until you do this, your posts about discrimination because a black cop makes less than a white lawyer proves nothing.
Remember, as has been stated a few time already, show me where a black man makes less because he is black when ALL OTHER FACTORS are the EXACT SAME.
At least Ken Jennings was smart enough to run away and abandon the thread when he couldn't prove it.
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well Aussie, since I see you are in the forum and you are not responding, I guess you are equally as smart to abandon the thread since you can not back up your BULLSHIT either.
I'll indulge you when I'm ready.lowing wrote:
well Aussie, since I see you are in the forum and you are not responding, I guess you are equally as smart to abandon the thread since you can not back up your BULLSHIT either.
Quite frankly I couldn't give a shit about doing so at present and have better things to do.
Well your condescending post along with your chart that shows nothing seemed to dictate otherwise. My mistakeAussieReaper wrote:
I'll indulge you when I'm ready.lowing wrote:
well Aussie, since I see you are in the forum and you are not responding, I guess you are equally as smart to abandon the thread since you can not back up your BULLSHIT either.
Quite frankly I couldn't give a shit about doing so at present and have better things to do.
I can't help but think that if you could "indulge" me, you already would have.
Also see if you can't indulge me with some real evidence that blacks make less because they are black. in a real apples to apples comparison
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And your arrogance is, as usual, boundless.lowing wrote:
Well your condescending post along with your chart that shows nothing seemed to dictate otherwise. My mistakeAussieReaper wrote:
I'll indulge you when I'm ready.lowing wrote:
well Aussie, since I see you are in the forum and you are not responding, I guess you are equally as smart to abandon the thread since you can not back up your BULLSHIT either.
Quite frankly I couldn't give a shit about doing so at present and have better things to do.
I can't help but think that if you could "indulge" me, you already would have.
Also see if you can't indulge me with some real evidence that blacks make less because they are black. in a real apples to apples comparison
The US economy is a giant Ponzi scheme. And 'to big to fail' is code speak for 'niahnahniahniahnah 99 percenters'
sure you do.AussieReaper wrote:
and have better things to do.
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I was just throwing that argument out there bc someone mentioned in another thread about how lame it would be to use against the almighty lowing...lowing wrote:
All ya gotta do is read the article. What more do you want.destruktion_6143 wrote:
I just like the fact of how quickly lowing was to call this guy a shithead. Im gonna use the line a lot of people use here
"How do you know he is a shithead? Do you know him personally?!?"
No one here knows me personally, and yet everyone has an opinion as to what I am like based on my posts. Unfortunately I am allowed that same judgement of others.
Also do not be a hater because I was proven right.
When a cop talks, you STFU and listen. If you DON'T, you deserve to be ethnically cleansed.
What a bunch of douchebags people are these days. "Oooh look at me, I'm fightin' the system because I'm a rebel and it's so fucking cool dude. These blue pigs are the nazis man, yo dude, man, gotta fight the guvernment dude."
Grow up, get a fucking education and be an obedient citizen.
I'm gonna stop looking at this thread. In doing so, I will know that my word is the last word and thus I am right and everyone else who disagrees is wrong.
What a bunch of douchebags people are these days. "Oooh look at me, I'm fightin' the system because I'm a rebel and it's so fucking cool dude. These blue pigs are the nazis man, yo dude, man, gotta fight the guvernment dude."
Grow up, get a fucking education and be an obedient citizen.
I'm gonna stop looking at this thread. In doing so, I will know that my word is the last word and thus I am right and everyone else who disagrees is wrong.
Alpha as fuck.
Fixed.Nyte wrote:
When a cop talks, you STFU and listen. If you DON'T, you deserve to be ethnically cleansed.
What a bunch of douchebags people are these days. "Oooh look at me, I'm fightin' the system because I'm a rebel and it's so fucking cool dude. These blue pigs are the nazis man, yo dude, man, gotta fight the guvernment dude."
Grow up, get a fucking education and be an respectful citizen.
I'm gonna stop looking at this thread. In doing so, I will know that my word is the last word and thus I am right and everyone else who disagrees is wrong.
A lot of the reason why minorities and women get paid less is because they accept lower pay.
This is also why minorities and women are often sought after because it A) fills many quotas and B) is often cheaper than hiring a white male.
Men (especially white men) tend to demand higher pay than their competitors. As a result, they often get passed over in hiring when a minority demands less, but when a white male actually gets hired, he tends to get more pay.
This is also why minorities and women are often sought after because it A) fills many quotas and B) is often cheaper than hiring a white male.
Men (especially white men) tend to demand higher pay than their competitors. As a result, they often get passed over in hiring when a minority demands less, but when a white male actually gets hired, he tends to get more pay.
Education is also a big part of it. White males tend to have better scores and went to better schools.Turquoise wrote:
A lot of the reason why minorities and women get paid less is because they accept lower pay.
This is also why minorities and women are often sought after because it A) fills many quotas and B) is often cheaper than hiring a white male.
Men (especially white men) tend to demand higher pay than their competitors. As a result, they often get passed over in hiring when a minority demands less, but when a white male actually gets hired, he tends to get more pay.
I see, so because I do not cower to condescending belittling posts directed toward me, I am arrogant. Sorry to disappoint ya.Stubbee wrote:
And your arrogance is, as usual, boundless.lowing wrote:
Well your condescending post along with your chart that shows nothing seemed to dictate otherwise. My mistakeAussieReaper wrote:
I'll indulge you when I'm ready.
Quite frankly I couldn't give a shit about doing so at present and have better things to do.
I can't help but think that if you could "indulge" me, you already would have.
Also see if you can't indulge me with some real evidence that blacks make less because they are black. in a real apples to apples comparison
By the way, I am still patiently waiting for Aussie, Ken-Jennings or M3thod to back up their contention that blacks make less because they are black.
Is that gunna happen anytime soon?
Someone talking about me behind my back in this forum? I can't believe it.destruktion_6143 wrote:
I was just throwing that argument out there bc someone mentioned in another thread about how lame it would be to use against the almighty lowing...lowing wrote:
All ya gotta do is read the article. What more do you want.destruktion_6143 wrote:
I just like the fact of how quickly lowing was to call this guy a shithead. Im gonna use the line a lot of people use here
"How do you know he is a shithead? Do you know him personally?!?"
No one here knows me personally, and yet everyone has an opinion as to what I am like based on my posts. Unfortunately I am allowed that same judgement of others.
Also do not be a hater because I was proven right.
Here are some extracts from a research paper on exactly that topic (published by the University of Washington, entitled "Understanding the Black-White Wage Gap among Physicians"). Specifically dealing with the wage gap between black and white doctors.lowing wrote:
I see, so because I do not cower to condescending belittling posts directed toward me, I am arrogant. Sorry to disappoint ya.Stubbee wrote:
And your arrogance is, as usual, boundless.lowing wrote:
Well your condescending post along with your chart that shows nothing seemed to dictate otherwise. My mistake
I can't help but think that if you could "indulge" me, you already would have.
Also see if you can't indulge me with some real evidence that blacks make less because they are black. in a real apples to apples comparison
By the way, I am still patiently waiting for Aussie, Ken-Jennings or M3thod to back up their contention that blacks make less because they are black.
Is that gunna happen anytime soon?
So they do earn less.The main question for this paper is whether black doctors earn less than white doctors because of their professional choices about issues like their specialty type and the location of their practice, or whether black doctors earn less than similarly situated white doctors.
The biggest factor in determining why they earn less appears to be that they see more black patients, which somehow means they earn less.
According to this paper they earn less because they see more black patients. But ultimately that does demonstrate that they earn less than similarly situated white doctors.Black doctors have both lower returns to the percent of their patients who are black and that the greater concentration of black patients who see black doctors adds a large portion to the income gap. Other than the different intercepts for black and white doctors and returns to hours worked, the proportion of a doctor’s patients who are black contributes more to the black-white wage gap than any other variable. In fact, most other variables in the model contribute very little to understanding the black-white wage gap.
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One solution proposed by some in the medical community was to recruit more black doctors to work with black patients. However, if black doctors face a severe wage penalty for working with black patients, then they may choose to do so less in the future, which leaves black patients in the same position of having poor access to health care and poor health.
I don't see why there is such a big wage penalty for working with black patients.
THis tells me that they earn less based on their clientele and not because they themselves are black. From your post I have no choice but to assume that if a black doctor saw similar white patients JUST LIKE the white doctor their pay would be similar.Bertster7 wrote:
Here are some extracts from a research paper on exactly that topic (published by the University of Washington, entitled "Understanding the Black-White Wage Gap among Physicians"). Specifically dealing with the wage gap between black and white doctors.lowing wrote:
I see, so because I do not cower to condescending belittling posts directed toward me, I am arrogant. Sorry to disappoint ya.Stubbee wrote:
And your arrogance is, as usual, boundless.
By the way, I am still patiently waiting for Aussie, Ken-Jennings or M3thod to back up their contention that blacks make less because they are black.
Is that gunna happen anytime soon?So they do earn less.The main question for this paper is whether black doctors earn less than white doctors because of their professional choices about issues like their specialty type and the location of their practice, or whether black doctors earn less than similarly situated white doctors.
The biggest factor in determining why they earn less appears to be that they see more black patients, which somehow means they earn less.According to this paper they earn less because they see more black patients. But ultimately that does demonstrate that they earn less than similarly situated white doctors.Black doctors have both lower returns to the percent of their patients who are black and that the greater concentration of black patients who see black doctors adds a large portion to the income gap. Other than the different intercepts for black and white doctors and returns to hours worked, the proportion of a doctor’s patients who are black contributes more to the black-white wage gap than any other variable. In fact, most other variables in the model contribute very little to understanding the black-white wage gap.
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One solution proposed by some in the medical community was to recruit more black doctors to work with black patients. However, if black doctors face a severe wage penalty for working with black patients, then they may choose to do so less in the future, which leaves black patients in the same position of having poor access to health care and poor health.
I don't see why there is such a big wage penalty for working with black patients.
This still is not an apples to apples comparison because the patients are different. All things must be equal EXCEPT the race of the professionals studied or the results are not valid.
Aussie, M3thod?? Ya still there? I'll keep checking back
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