Black Harvard scholar equals shithead, lowing? Grow up.Gates said he turned over his driver's license and Harvard ID — both with his photos — and repeatedly asked for the name and badge number of the officer, who refused. He said he then followed the officer as he left his house onto his front porch, where he was handcuffed in front of other officers, Gates said in a statement released by his attorney, fellow Harvard scholar Charles Ogletree, on a Web site Gates oversees, TheRoot.com
He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior." He was released later that day on his own recognizance. An arraignment was scheduled for Aug. 26.
Nope, dumb fuck who refused to cooperate with an investigation by police responding to a B & E. the guy refused to answer questions or produce a fucking ID ( until after he escalated the situation of course). This is what makes him a shithead. Education level has little to do with being a fuckin asshole.AussieReaper wrote:
Black Harvard scholar equals shithead, lowing? Grow up.Gates said he turned over his driver's license and Harvard ID — both with his photos — and repeatedly asked for the name and badge number of the officer, who refused. He said he then followed the officer as he left his house onto his front porch, where he was handcuffed in front of other officers, Gates said in a statement released by his attorney, fellow Harvard scholar Charles Ogletree, on a Web site Gates oversees, TheRoot.com
He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior." He was released later that day on his own recognizance. An arraignment was scheduled for Aug. 26.
The cops responded to a call, they found him who refused to cooperate. Yeah he is begging for troubleFatherTed wrote:
I agree he's probably playing the race card, but i don't exactly think he was begging for trouble.
Gates joined the Harvard faculty in 1991 and holds one of 20 prestigious "university professors" positions at the school. He also was host of "African American Lives," a PBS show about the family histories of prominent U.S. blacks, and was named by Time magazine as one of the 25 most influential Americans in 1997.lowing wrote:
Nope, dumb fuck who refused to cooperate with an investigation by police responding to a B & E. the guy refused to answer questions or produce a fucking ID ( until after he escalated the situation of course). This is what makes him a shithead. Education level has little to do with being a fuckin asshole.AussieReaper wrote:
Black Harvard scholar equals shithead, lowing? Grow up.Gates said he turned over his driver's license and Harvard ID — both with his photos — and repeatedly asked for the name and badge number of the officer, who refused. He said he then followed the officer as he left his house onto his front porch, where he was handcuffed in front of other officers, Gates said in a statement released by his attorney, fellow Harvard scholar Charles Ogletree, on a Web site Gates oversees, TheRoot.com
He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior." He was released later that day on his own recognizance. An arraignment was scheduled for Aug. 26.
Also not the first time it has happened with this idiot. I take it you didn't even read the article.
Fuck yes, or do you really think a cop responding to a B and E, finding a white guy who refuses to answer questions, refuses to produce an ID, and is being belligerent to the cops on the scene will just get off with a warning such as, "man, you're lucky you are white or we would arrest you"DonFck wrote:
The question to you lowing is, would it have happened if he had been white? Same clothes, same age, same neighbourhood, but white. Would the neighbour even have called the cops?
Don't point out to people that they didn't even read the article when you didn't even read my three sentences.lowing wrote:
Fuck yes, or do you really think a cop responding to a B and E, finding a white guy who refuses to answer questions, refuses to produce an ID, and is being belligerent to the cops on the scene will just get off with a warning such as, "man, you're lucky you are white or we would arrest you"DonFck wrote:
The question to you lowing is, would it have happened if he had been white? Same clothes, same age, same neighbourhood, but white. Would the neighbour even have called the cops?
Also, I refer to Bertsters post above. The cops didn't handle things in the best way either.DonFck wrote:
Would the neighbour even have called the cops?
You have very selective reading skills.AussieReaper wrote:
Black Harvard scholar equals shithead, lowing? Grow up.Gates said he turned over his driver's license and Harvard ID — both with his photos — and repeatedly asked for the name and badge number of the officer, who refused. He said he then followed the officer as he left his house onto his front porch, where he was handcuffed in front of other officers, Gates said in a statement released by his attorney, fellow Harvard scholar Charles Ogletree, on a Web site Gates oversees, TheRoot.com
He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior." He was released later that day on his own recognizance. An arraignment was scheduled for Aug. 26.
AussieReaper wrote:
Tell me where the article says its not the first timed it's happened with Mr Gates. Did you read the article? lollowing wrote:
Also not the first time it has happened with this idiot. I take it you didn't even read the article.
yer right, I mis-read where it was his colleague that could not produce an ID when questioned by police in 2004. My mistake.AussieReaper wrote:
Gates joined the Harvard faculty in 1991 and holds one of 20 prestigious "university professors" positions at the school. He also was host of "African American Lives," a PBS show about the family histories of prominent U.S. blacks, and was named by Time magazine as one of the 25 most influential Americans in 1997.lowing wrote:
Nope, dumb fuck who refused to cooperate with an investigation by police responding to a B & E. the guy refused to answer questions or produce a fucking ID ( until after he escalated the situation of course). This is what makes him a shithead. Education level has little to do with being a fuckin asshole.AussieReaper wrote:
Black Harvard scholar equals shithead, lowing? Grow up.
Also not the first time it has happened with this idiot. I take it you didn't even read the article.
Tell me where the article says its not the first timed it's happened with Mr Gates. Did you read the article? lol
What are you talking about, I answered your question with an explanation.DonFck wrote:
Don't point out to people that they didn't even read the article when you didn't even read my three sentences.lowing wrote:
Fuck yes, or do you really think a cop responding to a B and E, finding a white guy who refuses to answer questions, refuses to produce an ID, and is being belligerent to the cops on the scene will just get off with a warning such as, "man, you're lucky you are white or we would arrest you"DonFck wrote:
The question to you lowing is, would it have happened if he had been white? Same clothes, same age, same neighbourhood, but white. Would the neighbour even have called the cops?Also, I refer to Bertsters post above. The cops didn't handle things in the best way either.DonFck wrote:
Would the neighbour even have called the cops?
According to the Police, who had to cover their asses having just arrested someone in his own home.lowing wrote:
This shithead was begging for trouble from the police
Pretty sure you can be as loud and tumultuous as you like in your own home, even if you're black.He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior."
You answered "Fuck yes" to the cops behaviour (which I per se find a bit odd, let's wait until your door's stuck and the cops come into your house, after which you will be posting here about a police nation), but you did NOT answer my question about the neighbour calling the cops or not had he been white.lowing wrote:
What are you talking about, I answered your question with an explanation.DonFck wrote:
Don't point out to people that they didn't even read the article when you didn't even read my three sentences.lowing wrote:
Fuck yes, or do you really think a cop responding to a B and E, finding a white guy who refuses to answer questions, refuses to produce an ID, and is being belligerent to the cops on the scene will just get off with a warning such as, "man, you're lucky you are white or we would arrest you"Also, I refer to Bertsters post above. The cops didn't handle things in the best way either.DonFck wrote:
Would the neighbour even have called the cops?
Or was "FUCK YES" not clear enough?
Sorry, when asked to produce an ID you kinda sorta gotta. Also it can be construed, and rightfully so, as interfering with an investigation.Dilbert_X wrote:
According to the Police, who had to cover their asses having just arrested someone in his own home.lowing wrote:
This shithead was begging for trouble from the policePretty sure you can be as loud and tumultuous as you like in your own home, even if you're black.He was arrested on a disorderly conduct charge after police said he "exhibited loud and tumultuous behavior."
Maybe the guy was being a dick, maybe the Police were being dicks, each is equally likely based on this report.
No big deal, no need to saddle the horses or get the white pointy hats out just yet.
He produced his ID. Two sets of photo ID.lowing wrote:
Sorry, when asked to produce an ID you kinda sorta gotta. Also it can be construed, and rightfully so, as interfering with an investigation.
Yes white people do call the police on white criminal behavior, pretty silly to assume white people give white criminals a pass. If you believe that shit, please produce a stat that reinforces it.DonFck wrote:
You answered "Fuck yes" to the cops behaviour (which I per se find a bit odd, let's wait until your door's stuck and the cops come into your house, after which you will be posting here about a police nation), but you did NOT answer my question about the neighbour calling the cops or not had he been white.lowing wrote:
What are you talking about, I answered your question with an explanation.DonFck wrote:
Don't point out to people that they didn't even read the article when you didn't even read my three sentences.lowing wrote:
Fuck yes, or do you really think a cop responding to a B and E, finding a white guy who refuses to answer questions, refuses to produce an ID, and is being belligerent to the cops on the scene will just get off with a warning such as, "man, you're lucky you are white or we would arrest you"
Also, I refer to Bertsters post above. The cops didn't handle things in the best way either.
Or was "FUCK YES" not clear enough?
..or was my quote that highlighted the question not clear enough?
Also, I agree with Dilbert above.
not initially. He refused in the beginning.AussieReaper wrote:
He produced his ID. Two sets of photo ID.lowing wrote:
Sorry, when asked to produce an ID you kinda sorta gotta. Also it can be construed, and rightfully so, as interfering with an investigation.
The police officer refused to give name and badge number.
So, your point is.... what?
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Um, what?lowing wrote:
not initially. He refused in the beginning.AussieReaper wrote:
He produced his ID. Two sets of photo ID.lowing wrote:
Sorry, when asked to produce an ID you kinda sorta gotta. Also it can be construed, and rightfully so, as interfering with an investigation.
The police officer refused to give name and badge number.
So, your point is.... what?
the cops refusal to bow to this guy is understandable. At that time, the cop was in control of the scene, not the suspect.
Planned this for months did he?lowing wrote:
Already stated my point. this guy was baiting for anything he could use to scream racism.
He did. He gave them 2 forms of photo ID showing he was the home owner. The cops refused to give him their badge numbers.Ajax_the_Great1 wrote:
It amazing how fast common sense goes out the door when it turns into a everyone vs. lowing thread.
All the mans gotta do when the cops ask him for his ID is give the cops his ID and that would be the end of it.
Second, if you look like you're trying to break into house, it doesn't matter what skin color you are. Get the fuck over it.
