Stingray24
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http://www.leftlanenews.com/china-to-bl … -sale.html

"China’s state radio is claiming Sichuan Tengzhong Heavy Industrial Machinery’s acquisition of General Motors’ Hummer brand will be blocked due to environmental concerns."



*psst* China, your air is already so polluted that people driving Hummers around won't make one bit of difference.
Varegg
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*psst* Stingray, you're wrong.
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
Mekstizzle
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it's an inefficient p.o.s even by Chinese standards
usmarine
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Varegg wrote:

*psst* Stingray, you're wrong.
why?  cuz china sayz so?
Varegg
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usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

*psst* Stingray, you're wrong.
why?  cuz china sayz so?
Ignorant but okay ... it really isn't that big a surprice that the Hummer and other cars in the same range polutes way more than the average normal sized car already in sale in China ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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Vehicle pollution will not make one bit of difference in China. It is orders of magnitude less harmful than the pollutants caused by industrialization.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
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If they're so concerned about the environment, perhaps they should address the factories belching crap into the air 24/7 rather than blocking the sale of Hummer.
usmarine
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Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

*psst* Stingray, you're wrong.
why?  cuz china sayz so?
Ignorant but okay ... it really isn't that big a surprice that the Hummer and other cars in the same range polutes way more than the average normal sized car already in sale in China ...
thats not what he said.  ignorant.  he is saying their air and water are so fucked up that a hummer wont make one difference.
Varegg
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usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

usmarine wrote:


why?  cuz china sayz so?
Ignorant but okay ... it really isn't that big a surprice that the Hummer and other cars in the same range polutes way more than the average normal sized car already in sale in China ...
thats not what he said.  ignorant.  he is saying their air and water are so fucked up that a hummer wont make one difference.
So your solution is making bad worse as it makes no difference?

Good call.

China is very concerned with their enviroment, more than you obviously are aware of but they also have other concernes both nationally and globally ...

What if China just closed all of it's poluting industry?

Hence why I call both your statement and the OP ignorant ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
usmarine
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Varegg wrote:

China is very concerned with their enviroment, more than you obviously are aware of but they also have other concernes both nationally and globally ...
lol...some people in china care i know that, but china could give two squirts.
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usmarine wrote:

Varegg wrote:

China is very concerned with their enviroment, more than you obviously are aware of but they also have other concernes both nationally and globally ...
lol...some people in china care i know that, but china could give two squirts.
If you say so ...
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usmarine
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thats right

/win
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
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Varegg wrote:

What if China just closed all of it's poluting industry?
...then the whole country would crash and burn like a paper airplane doused in napalm.
Mekstizzle
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One of the main reasons China has been so economically successfull is that their government has been able to do alot of shit without having to answer to anyone and just being able to lock up anyone that disagrees. They can just kick out a few hundred thousand or even million people to build a dam (Three Gorges) or just kick out some farmers to build a factory on the land, and when there's virtually no obstacles in the way of economic growth, amongst other things, it's just easy to do shit.


Think of it like that topic that someone posted here, using that German word. Ubermencsh or something. Getting the most out of something disregarding all moral consequences and striving for power no matter what, that's a good way of describing the current Chinese government. Easy to do in a single party communist state.

Last edited by Mekstizzle (2009-06-27 12:13:02)

LividBovine
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China does what China wants.

You think this is environmental based?  That would be ignorant.
"The President does not have power under the Constitution to unilaterally authorize a military attack in a situation that does not involve stopping an actual or imminent threat to the nation" - Barack Obama (a freshman senator from Illinios)
jsnipy
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imo it should have never been made into a consumer vehicle. Most of those sold are thing more than farm truck chassis with a different body. People with real wealth or people looking to off road would never buy one anyway.
CameronPoe
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Their environment is so polluted that it makes no difference if they buy Hummer? That is shit logic.
BVC
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Start making electric hummers.
Varegg
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Varegg wrote:

What if China just closed all of it's poluting industry?
...then the whole country world would crash and burn like a paper airplane doused in napalm.
Fixed for corretness ...
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
Turquoise
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Vehicle pollution will not make one bit of difference in China. It is orders of magnitude less harmful than the pollutants caused by industrialization.
Agreed.  There must be another reason why they are blocking the sale.  Pollution is just the cover story.
Turquoise
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CameronPoe wrote:

Their environment is so polluted that it makes no difference if they buy Hummer? That is shit logic.
Seriously, it actually makes sense.  The majority of pollution in China isn't from cars.  The same is actually true of America.

Power companies contribute most of the pollution in America, and in China, it's much the same.
maffiaw
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Turquoise wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Vehicle pollution will not make one bit of difference in China. It is orders of magnitude less harmful than the pollutants caused by industrialization.
Agreed.  There must be another reason why they are blocking the sale.  Pollution is just the cover story.
mmm a possibility because buying the Hummer brand now hook line and sinker would not be a economically viable investment in this economic and political climate.

The Chinese government is currently trying to push its 'green' credentials and this company, which is privately owned, went behind govt regulators to make this deal without their knowledge. This would mean that they essentially batfucked the govt. in this regard. my 2c
Flecco
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For environmental reasons.

Environmental credentials.


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Three words China: Three Gorges Dam

As long as that Dam exists, China will never be seen as an environmentally friendly nation.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6375|North Carolina

maffiaw wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Vehicle pollution will not make one bit of difference in China. It is orders of magnitude less harmful than the pollutants caused by industrialization.
Agreed.  There must be another reason why they are blocking the sale.  Pollution is just the cover story.
mmm a possibility because buying the Hummer brand now hook line and sinker would not be a economically viable investment in this economic and political climate.

The Chinese government is currently trying to push its 'green' credentials and this company, which is privately owned, went behind govt regulators to make this deal without their knowledge. This would mean that they essentially batfucked the govt. in this regard. my 2c
In all honesty, I'm completely in favor of batfucking the Chinese government.
maffiaw
ph33r me 傻逼
+40|6391|Melbourne, AUS
Yes, I know about the 3 gorges dam controversy. A sad thing is it was partly due the former Premier Li Peng (dickhead) trying to demonstrate his political clout within the ccp.

This 'green' push has been a more recent development than that, whether it be whole-hearted or just political posturing (e.g Wen Jiabao planting trees etc etc). It would be interesting to note that a similar dam project over the Yangtze was recently blocked by the environmental dept due to "environmental concerns". http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/8096860.stm

And seriously, who the fuck would buy a gas guzzling brandname like Hummer now?

Last edited by maffiaw (2009-06-27 17:08:36)

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