Seriously why can't we just castrate violent criminals

2009-06-24 07:38:49

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Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5996|College Park, MD

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article … apist.html

The man (I refuse to call him a 'kid' as some bleeding-hearts choose to, because at 15 years old I knew not to fucking rape people) had a previous record including sexual assault, and he was still allowed to roam free? THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DECIDE TO "REHABILITATE" INSTEAD OF KEEP THEM AWAY FROM SOCIETY. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Rapists should be castrated. Not only would it remove the thing that empowers them, but it'd prevent them from having kids. I would /not/ want a kid to be raised by someone like this. I really don't buy the whole 'eugenics' argument because there's a difference between selective breeding and keeping sick fucks from having and potentially abusing their kids.

Also lol @ the sketch.

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2009-06-24 13:15:26

#2

NAthANSmitt: Stud; +4|6423

Go back to public flogging.

2009-06-24 14:34:54

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Turquoise: O Canada; +1,596|6699|North Carolina

I'd say a public execution would put things right. I'd gladly be the executioner.

2009-06-25 04:21:53

#4

Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6516|Brisneyland

Where I live there is some talk of making castration of sex offenders voluntary. Therefore if the crim wants to get out of jail earlier ( or at all) he must consent to a chemical castration. Some crims are happy to oblige because their dodgy hormones make them more likely to offend. Take the hormones away and they may also live a fairly normal life.
Of course this may be a civil liberties nightmare.

2009-06-25 04:24:49

#5

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6816|...

because, what would we do with all the extra nutsacks?

2009-06-25 04:32:21

#6

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6959|NT, like Mick Dundee

Burwhale wrote:
Where I live there is some talk of making castration of sex offenders voluntary. Therefore if the crim wants to get out of jail earlier ( or at all) he must consent to a chemical castration. Some crims are happy to oblige because their dodgy hormones make them more likely to offend. Take the hormones away and they may also live a fairly normal life.
Of course this may be a civil liberties nightmare.

Brisvegas is discussing that?

Don't think it would happen under labour tbh.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2009-06-25 04:40:24

#7

Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6516|Brisneyland

Yeah, honestly it probably wont happen at all. But it has been talked about. Not a bad idea really.
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=103881
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Premier Anna Bligh yesterday said voluntary chemical castration would be available for pedophiles and other dangerous sex fiends, but only if they consented and it was recommended by a psychiatrist.

The change is one of 22 set to be in place by the end of the year after a review of the Dangerous Prisoners (Sex Offenders) Act, which was sparked by growing concerns about sex offenders being released into the community.

2009-06-25 04:45:25

#8

Flecco: iPod is broken.; +1,048|6959|NT, like Mick Dundee

Interesting. Then again, QLD labour doesn't seem to be acting very labourish these days. Selling off all those govt assets and shit.

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.

2009-06-25 04:52:33

#9

Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6516|Brisneyland

True, There was even talk of some labor members trying to kick Anna Bligh out of the party, but that would never happen. Interesting times indeed.

2009-06-25 05:13:31

#10

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6747|The Twilight Zone

no point in that, they can still have sex can't they?

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2009-06-25 05:19:05

#11

Burwhale: Save the BlobFish!; +136|6516|Brisneyland

I'm not an expert, but they cant get it up, and they probably dont have an urge (same as when you desex a bull terrier), so it may work.

Cool avatar by the way.

2009-06-25 05:21:13

#12

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6943

Can we also castrate stupid people?

2009-06-25 05:22:43

#13

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6747|The Twilight Zone

I'm no expert either but I thought if castrated the semen goes down the wrong channel so you can't impregnate a woman but you can still enjoy sex?
Thanks for the avatar compliments

2009-06-25 05:23:46

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6447|what

Cause dey could be innocent

2009-06-25 05:40:55

#15

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5996|College Park, MD

AussieReaper wrote:
Cause dey could be innocent

You're right, I mean even if the DNA from the semen in the woman's vagina matches the accused's DNA, he could still be innocent

2009-06-25 05:53:12

#16

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6447|what

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Cause dey could be innocent
You're right, I mean even if the DNA from the semen in the woman's vagina matches the accused's DNA, he could still be innocent

Who cares if it was consensual and the woman decided to change her mind after the event.

2009-06-25 05:54:36

#17

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5996|College Park, MD

AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Cause dey could be innocent
You're right, I mean even if the DNA from the semen in the woman's vagina matches the accused's DNA, he could still be innocent
Who cares if it was consensual and the woman decided to change her mind after the event.

I'd love to see some statistics on how often that actually happens.

(also, maybe just have sex with people you know won't fucking stab you in the back)

2009-06-25 05:54:59

#18

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6747|The Twilight Zone

AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Cause dey could be innocent
You're right, I mean even if the DNA from the semen in the woman's vagina matches the accused's DNA, he could still be innocent
Who cares if it was consensual and the woman decided to change her mind after the event.

you mean like this?
http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=126813

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:

You're right, I mean even if the DNA from the semen in the woman's vagina matches the accused's DNA, he could still be innocent
Who cares if it was consensual and the woman decided to change her mind after the event.
I'd love to see some statistics on how often that actually happens.

(also, maybe just have sex with people you know won't fucking stab you in the back)

they released another batch of innocent "terrorists" from Gitmo the other day...

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2009-06-25 05:59:40

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6447|what

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:

You're right, I mean even if the DNA from the semen in the woman's vagina matches the accused's DNA, he could still be innocent
Who cares if it was consensual and the woman decided to change her mind after the event.
I'd love to see some statistics on how often that actually happens.

(also, maybe just have sex with people you know won't fucking stab you in the back)

You'd love to know how many innocent people have been put behind bars?

More than one. Does that guy deserve to be castrated?

How many innocent people would it take, before you cared?

2009-06-25 05:59:52

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Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5996|College Park, MD

.Sup wrote:
they released another batch of innocent "terrorists" from Gitmo the other day...

Those guys were detained because they were either combatants or were hanging around with the wrong crowd. That's a fair bit different from being arrested because your DNA was found inside a woman.

@Aussie no he doesn't. But if a guy is proven beyond any reasonable doubt whatsoever (obviously any investigation would have to be far more detailed and intricate so as to avoid jailing someone innocent), in other words if there's undeniable proof that the person was raped, why shouldn't we castrate them? (And again, best way to avoid false rape accusation = don't fuck people you don't know well)

Also, innocent people are jailed all the time. Maybe we should just get rid of any punishment system whatsoever. Time in prison ain't fun, especially 20 years, but I don't hear anyone clamoring for changing that.

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2009-06-25 06:14:35

#21

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6447|what

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
@Aussie no he doesn't. But if a guy is proven beyond any reasonable doubt whatsoever (obviously any investigation would have to be far more detailed and intricate so as to avoid jailing someone innocent), in other words if there's undeniable proof that the person was raped, why shouldn't we castrate them? (And again, best way to avoid false rape accusation = don't fuck people you don't know well)

Also, innocent people are jailed all the time. Maybe we should just get rid of any punishment system whatsoever. Time in prison ain't fun, especially 20 years, but I don't hear anyone clamoring for changing that.

You do know that to convict you have to prove something beyond "reasonable" doubt. So points to you for that one.

But you must also realise that you don't have to go, beyond "all" doubt.

It doesn't take a genius to work out that there are some people in prison who are innocent but convicted anyway. And that there is doubt. And even reasonable doubt.

And to say "obviously any investigation would have to be far more detailed and intricate so as to avoid jailing someone innocent" you don't think that current investigations are taken seriously? You now want to pile more work upon detectives and lawyers, so that the innocent guys don't go to prison? Just to satisfy the want to hurt those convicted? It's still going to happen... You are still going to convict innocent people.

And as for your "innocent people are jailed all the time. Maybe we should just get rid of any punishment system whatsoever." I'd say no, that's different. That is rehabilitation and punishment. What you are talking about is nothing other than punishment. Eye for an eye. The victim was hurt, so you want to hurt the criminal. The punishment should fit the crime, all you are cared about is that the rapist gets hurt.

I wonder, are you only interested in castration of rapists, or do you think violent criminals could be given the same treatment? Take down the hormones which may be a factor in their behaviour? That might work... Or maybe a frontal lobe lobotomy to change their behaviour. Make them docile.

A "frontal-lobe castration" for those who kill someone. How does that sound to you?

2009-06-25 06:16:54

#22

.Sup: be nice; +2,646|6747|The Twilight Zone

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
.Sup wrote:
they released another batch of innocent "terrorists" from Gitmo the other day...
Those guys were detained because they were either combatants or were hanging around with the wrong crowd. That's a fair bit different from being arrested because your DNA was found inside a woman.

@Aussie no he doesn't. But if a guy is proven beyond any reasonable doubt whatsoever (obviously any investigation would have to be far more detailed and intricate so as to avoid jailing someone innocent), in other words if there's undeniable proof that the person was raped, why shouldn't we castrate them? (And again, best way to avoid false rape accusation = don't fuck people you don't know well)

Also, innocent people are jailed all the time. Maybe we should just get rid of any punishment system whatsoever. Time in prison ain't fun, especially 20 years, but I don't hear anyone clamoring for changing that.

just sayin'-once proven guilty then proven not guilty but unfortunately too late...

2009-06-25 06:18:50

#23

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5996|College Park, MD

AussieReaper wrote:
A "frontal-lobe castration" for those who kill someone. How does that sound to you?

I'm a fan of the lethal injection myself. Honestly, I'm a fan of either keeping violent criminals locked up for life or just making them no longer a menace to society (e.g. capital punishment or chemical castration).

I also think drunk drivers who kill someone should be jailed for life. They've proven themselves to be too irresponsible to act safely in society.

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2009-06-25 08:33:56

#24

ghettoperson: Member; +1,943|6943

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:

You're right, I mean even if the DNA from the semen in the woman's vagina matches the accused's DNA, he could still be innocent
Who cares if it was consensual and the woman decided to change her mind after the event.
I'd love to see some statistics on how often that actually happens.

(also, maybe just have sex with people you know won't fucking stab you in the back)

That's the stupidest fucking thing I've ever read.

"Women never claim that that guy they hooked up with when drunk raped them. And if they do, well it's the guys fault for sleeping with someone he didn't know."

2009-06-25 08:51:00

#25

mikkel: Member; +383|6895

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
THIS IS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN YOU DECIDE TO "REHABILITATE" INSTEAD OF KEEP THEM AWAY FROM SOCIETY. IT DOESN'T FUCKING WORK.

Clearly, as this one guy is a repeat offender, rehabilitation DOESN'T WORK EVER.

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Rapists should be castrated. Not only would it remove the thing that empowers them, but it'd prevent them from having kids. I would /not/ want a kid to be raised by someone like this. I really don't buy the whole 'eugenics' argument because there's a difference between selective breeding and keeping sick fucks from having and potentially abusing their kids.

So there's a difference between selective breeding, and selectively choosing who should be allowed to breed, and who shouldn't? How does that work?

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