Burwhale
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Our state govt is looking into Chemical castration of sex offenders that want to avoid indefinite jail sentences.

Source

Courier Mail wrote:

Premier Anna Bligh yesterday said voluntary chemical castration would be available for pedophiles and other dangerous sex fiends, but only if they consented and it was recommended by a psychiatrist.

The change is one of 22 set to be in place by the end of the year after a review of the Dangerous Prisoners (Sex Offenders) Act, which was sparked by growing concerns about sex offenders being released into the community.
Although civil libertarians are up in arms, I think its possibly a good idea. It also depends on how effective the Chemical castration process is. Prisoners would have the right to not go through the process, and stay in jail, so they arent really forced to do anything they dont want.

What do you think??
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Lulz good idea tbh.
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FatherTed
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If it's not forced, i dont see a problem with it at all.

No dick - Can't rape someone.
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JahManRed
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Should cut their nuts off before they go into jail. Probably an ideal place for a pervert. Be someones bitch.
NeXuS
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FatherTed wrote:

If it's not forced, i dont see a problem with it at all.

No dick - Can't rape someone.
Lol imagine cutting the blood flow as in cauterizing the veins shut or something. LOL THAT WOULD FKN SUCK! To have a penis but cant even get it up.
m3thod
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Would you develop tits now that testerone production is not possible?
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FatherTed
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m3thod wrote:

Would you develop tits now that testerone production is not possible?
That'd be even better, ala Bob

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Braddock
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I'd have no problem with that. I remember seeing a documentary on ITV years ago where they spoke to a guy in Britain who had it done and he said it was the best thing he could have done in his situation and that he was able to live a normal life without fear of acting on his misguided sexuality.
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FatherTed wrote:

If it's not forced, i dont see a problem with it at all.

No dick - Can't rape someone.
Castration = removing testicles. You still have your dick. Well, you might not, but a castrated person will.
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Braddock wrote:

I'd have no problem with that. I remember seeing a documentary on ITV years ago where they spoke to a guy in Britain who had it done and he said it was the best thing he could have done in his situation and that he was able to live a normal life without fear of acting on his misguided sexuality.
Agreed. If it works, let's do it. I think I'd be okay with it if it was mandatory, depending on the nature of the crime, but that opens up so many other questions. A person could be falsely accused of rape, etc. It should definitely be mandatory for second offenses.
PureFodder
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Knowing you're a sex offender and likely to have an excessively rough time in prison, it may not be a totally voluntary decision.

Having said that it may help protect kids and garden furniture
FatherTed
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chittydog wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

If it's not forced, i dont see a problem with it at all.

No dick - Can't rape someone.
Castration = removing testicles. You still have your dick. Well, you might not, but a castrated person will.
Christ i wouldn't want to rape anyone without bollocks, twud be embarrassing.
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PureFodder
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FatherTed wrote:

chittydog wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

If it's not forced, i dont see a problem with it at all.

No dick - Can't rape someone.
Castration = removing testicles. You still have your dick. Well, you might not, but a castrated person will.
Christ i wouldn't want to rape anyone without bollocks, twud be embarrassing.
I seem to recall that chemical castration keeps the bollocks, but just removes their ability to work.
SenorToenails
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PureFodder wrote:

I seem to recall that chemical castration keeps the bollocks, but just removes their ability to work.
Yep.  See here for wiki.
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FatherTed wrote:

chittydog wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

If it's not forced, i dont see a problem with it at all.

No dick - Can't rape someone.
Castration = removing testicles. You still have your dick. Well, you might not, but a castrated person will.
Christ i wouldn't want to rape anyone without bollocks, twud be embarrassing.
lol bollocks.


I think its sick, but my doubts are that doesnt stop a sex offender from potentially molesting or sexually harassing someone.
oChaos.Haze
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Considering a molester's problem is in their brain and not their nuts, I'd say this is a farce.  Maybe lobotomies?  I certainly don't see how castration solves a mental illness...

To me this is like putting a band aid on a broken arm.  It may stop the bleeding, but it's not stopping what's broken inside.
HurricaИe
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I wonder how many people supporting this called me a nazi and eugenics supporter when I proposed the idea of not letting certain criminals be allowed to have kids.
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HurricaИe wrote:

I wonder how many people supporting this called me a nazi and eugenics supporter when I proposed the idea of not letting certain criminals be allowed to have kids.
I love that idea. Especially for people with felony drug charges. Maybe it'll keep a few crackheads from trying to sell their kids.
Braddock
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chittydog wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

I wonder how many people supporting this called me a nazi and eugenics supporter when I proposed the idea of not letting certain criminals be allowed to have kids.
I love that idea. Especially for people with felony drug charges. Maybe it'll keep a few crackheads from trying to sell their kids.
I think you should need a license to have children. Too many deadbeats and scumbags are out there spawning new generations of deadbeats and scumbags. You should be made to do a parenting course then sit an exam and pass a practical assessment.

Completely unenforceable though!

Last edited by Braddock (2008-06-25 09:47:28)

Roger Lesboules
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Chemical castration might be more "Humane" but i say that it still wont remove the abilities for a sexual offender to molest someone or doing any other sicks things they usually do. I say that cutting the whole junk is still the best way...they should even remove half if not all the penis. In some place they cut/used to cut the hand that was used to steal so the criminal would remember all his life the day he stole. We should maybe proced the same way for rapist and such. Make em remember the day they used their penis the wrong way for the rest of their life, because chances are that the guy/girls that got raped/molested and such WILL remember that moment for the rest of his life.
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Braddock wrote:

chittydog wrote:

HurricaИe wrote:

I wonder how many people supporting this called me a nazi and eugenics supporter when I proposed the idea of not letting certain criminals be allowed to have kids.
I love that idea. Especially for people with felony drug charges. Maybe it'll keep a few crackheads from trying to sell their kids.
I think you should need a license to have children. Too many deadbeats and scumbags are out there spawning new generations of deadbeats and scumbags. You should be made to do a parenting course then sit an exam and pass a practical assessment.

Completely unenforceable though!
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CaptainSpaulding71
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question:  is there empirical proof that sex offenders can indeed be rehabilitated an not be habitual offenders?  is there something in their brains that is the problem?  if so, then why not support such a measure.  at the risk of sounding like e eugenics proponent, why would you want this kind of scum poisoning the gene pool?  further, why do you want this kind of person habitually offending and screwing up other people's lives?  sometimes we should take pro-active instead of re-active measures to prevent and curtail crime.
oChaos.Haze
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CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

question:  is there empirical proof that sex offenders can indeed be rehabilitated an not be habitual offenders?  is there something in their brains that is the problem?  if so, then why not support such a measure.  at the risk of sounding like e eugenics proponent, why would you want this kind of scum poisoning the gene pool?  further, why do you want this kind of person habitually offending and screwing up other people's lives?  sometimes we should take pro-active instead of re-active measures to prevent and curtail crime.
I dunno I'd like to see if there's a study that shows that sex offenses might be carried by a gene.  To my knowledge, I can't think of any.  I've never heard or seen a new report about "like father, like son" rapists.  I tend to lean towards a mental instability, fueled by a domestic, environmental instability, leading to the mindset.  I dunno though, just how the cards look to me.

Last edited by oChaos.Haze (2008-06-25 11:37:38)

chittydog
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oChaos.Haze wrote:

CaptainSpaulding71 wrote:

question:  is there empirical proof that sex offenders can indeed be rehabilitated an not be habitual offenders?  is there something in their brains that is the problem?  if so, then why not support such a measure.  at the risk of sounding like e eugenics proponent, why would you want this kind of scum poisoning the gene pool?  further, why do you want this kind of person habitually offending and screwing up other people's lives?  sometimes we should take pro-active instead of re-active measures to prevent and curtail crime.
I dunno I'd like to see if there's a study that shows that sex offenses might be carried by a gene.  To my knowledge, I can't think of any.  I've never heard or seen a new report about "like father, like son" rapists.  I tend to lean towards a mental instability, fueled by a domestic, environmental instability, leading to the mindset.  I dunno though, just how the cards look to me.
I've read that child molesters were typically molested themselves. But considering that most victims are molested by a family member (read that somewhere else), it makes it hard to tell if it's nature or nurture.
CaptainSpaulding71
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chittydog wrote:

I've read that child molesters were typically molested themselves. But considering that most victims are molested by a family member (read that somewhere else), it makes it hard to tell if it's nature or nurture.
right - i agree that being molested certainly runs a much higher risk for that person to be highly messed up later in life.  trust issues suffer extremely especially when it is a family member doing it. 

so perhaps my take on 'gene-pool' thinking was not the best wording.  through their actions they are carrying on the likelihood to continue their sickness to further generations.  so it is not biological - rather behavioral.  in a sense, the perpetrator IS actually harming future generations if you look at it in a tree fashion where the original abuser is at the root.  i guess that's kind of what i meant.

still, i believe firmly that the 'urges' that sex offenders have are innate and do not necessarily go away with therapy.  rather, the people are better able to control said urges.  perhaps these people really have a problem with impulse control and not even the sex thing.  i've seen talk show after talk show (yeah...i know that hardly qualifies me as expert, but bear with me), that has guests that are sex offenders saying as much - that they still have urges after chemical castration, but it helps the person to keep those feelings in check. 

so if they still have those feelings, why not do something to keep them in check permanently - for example through castration? 

for habitual offenders, i say take them out of the equation entirely (ie, kill them).  here's where i say something extremely controversial:  it's not like these people are on the average contributing majorly to society anyway.  that is, are these people curing cancer, solving world hunger, etc?  i don't believe that this is true.  so if they continually affect negatively the population like this and do not add anything to that society - why be part of that society.

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