Oh yeah... she's not just a two-bagger... she's a full body bagger...Macbeth wrote:
Good, If you want to impose backwards third world laws on your friends and family, then stay in the backwards third world, don't bring your problems to developed countries and expect them to bend over.
It's a sad state of affairs when France has to take the initiative.
It's a sad state of affairs when France has to take the initiative.
and what about the woman who do it voluntarily ?S.Lythberg wrote:
Good, If you want to impose backwards third world laws on your friends and family, then stay in the backwards third world, don't bring your problems to developed countries and expect them to bend over.
It's a sad state of affairs when France has to take the initiative.
Threat of a swift beating from your husband isn't the accepted definition of voluntary. The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.mafia996630 wrote:
and what about the woman who do it voluntarily ?S.Lythberg wrote:
Good, If you want to impose backwards third world laws on your friends and family, then stay in the backwards third world, don't bring your problems to developed countries and expect them to bend over.
It's a sad state of affairs when France has to take the initiative.
How the fuck would you know?S.Lythberg wrote:
Threat of a swift beating from your husband isn't the accepted definition of voluntary. The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.mafia996630 wrote:
and what about the woman who do it voluntarily ?S.Lythberg wrote:
Good, If you want to impose backwards third world laws on your friends and family, then stay in the backwards third world, don't bring your problems to developed countries and expect them to bend over.
It's a sad state of affairs when France has to take the initiative.
DrunkFace wrote:
How the fuck would you know?S.Lythberg wrote:
Threat of a swift beating from your husband isn't the accepted definition of voluntary. The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.mafia996630 wrote:
and what about the woman who do it voluntarily ?
Tell me why would a woman degrade herself to wearing a Burqa... Head scarve I may understand but seriously a fucking Burqa? Unless they are crazily conservative... Kinda like why would a woman get a female circumsicion. Burqa's are nothing compared to that...DrunkFace wrote:
How the fuck would you know?S.Lythberg wrote:
Threat of a swift beating from your husband isn't the accepted definition of voluntary. The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.mafia996630 wrote:
and what about the woman who do it voluntarily ?
for the simple reason that they are trying to follow their religion to the fullest ?Cybargs wrote:
Tell me why would a woman degrade herself to wearing a Burqa... Head scarve I may understand but seriously a fucking Burqa? Unless they are crazily conservative... Kinda like why would a woman get a female circumsicion. Burqa's are nothing compared to that...DrunkFace wrote:
How the fuck would you know?S.Lythberg wrote:
Threat of a swift beating from your husband isn't the accepted definition of voluntary. The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.
wat france grow a pair
So it makes it ok if christians start killing their kids if they disobey? Or stone a woman if she speaks against her husband?mafia996630 wrote:
for the simple reason that they are trying to follow their religion to the fullest ?Cybargs wrote:
Tell me why would a woman degrade herself to wearing a Burqa... Head scarve I may understand but seriously a fucking Burqa? Unless they are crazily conservative... Kinda like why would a woman get a female circumsicion. Burqa's are nothing compared to that...DrunkFace wrote:
How the fuck would you know?
Does this mean Hallowe'en ghost costumes can now be prosecuted against in France?
so you refuse to acknowledge that a woman would wear that voluntarily ?Cybargs wrote:
So it makes it ok if christians start killing their kids if they disobey? Or stone a woman if she speaks against her husband?mafia996630 wrote:
for the simple reason that they are trying to follow their religion to the fullest ?Cybargs wrote:
Tell me why would a woman degrade herself to wearing a Burqa... Head scarve I may understand but seriously a fucking Burqa? Unless they are crazily conservative... Kinda like why would a woman get a female circumsicion. Burqa's are nothing compared to that...
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The same reason Maoris still get tribal tattoos.Cybargs wrote:
Tell me why would a woman degrade herself to wearing a Burqa... Head scarve I may understand but seriously a fucking Burqa? Unless they are crazily conservative... Kinda like why would a woman get a female circumsicion. Burqa's are nothing compared to that...DrunkFace wrote:
How the fuck would you know?S.Lythberg wrote:
Threat of a swift beating from your husband isn't the accepted definition of voluntary. The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.
The same reason many subcontinent men wear a turbans and sikhisms.
The same reason the Kayan women still wear neck rings.
To honour their culture, their history, their ancestors.
You don't have to understand it, its how they feel and its has nothing to do with anyone else.
The Saudi religious police (or even the Taliban) pretty much invalidates any of the arguments in this thread with regards to being tolerant. If Saudi women were voluntarily donning these garments, why does the preeminent Muslim state have government sanctioned goons roaming around harassing people (mostly women) about their dress or beards or whatever?
Sure SOME might wear it for the reasons some have put forth but it seems that many do NOT want to do so and thus are persecuted, sometimes horrifically.
Sure SOME might wear it for the reasons some have put forth but it seems that many do NOT want to do so and thus are persecuted, sometimes horrifically.
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they can dress and wear whatever they want as long as no one is getting hurt. It would be weird putting limitations on wut people should wear here in states since u have all types of loonies wearing all types of shit...
Because Saudi Arabia is an ass-backwards shithole?Stubbee wrote:
The Saudi religious police (or even the Taliban) pretty much invalidates any of the arguments in this thread with regards to being tolerant. If Saudi women were voluntarily donning these garments, why does the preeminent Muslim state have government sanctioned goons roaming around harassing people (mostly women) about their dress or beards or whatever?
Sure SOME might wear it for the reasons some have put forth but it seems that many do NOT want to do so and thus are persecuted, sometimes horrifically.
How is Saudi the 'preeminent Muslim state' anyway? It doesn't have as many people as Indonesia, isn't as progressive as the UAE and it's economy is entirely oil driven. It's an extremist shithole run by a corrupt royal family. Sure it has all the major Sunni holy sites, but Palestine/Israel contain all the major Christian holy sites and that doesn't make either region the preeminent Christian state.
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Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Perhaps France should prosecute people who subject their children to the humiliating and degrading fantasism and dogma of Catholic Church mass on Sundays. How dare they force their children into praying to an intangible 'entity' in the ether and drinking and eating the 'blood' and 'body' of a man who died approximately 2000 years ago. If you're gonna pick on the nonsense that religion entails then go the whole fucking hog please Nicolas.... or just leave people to their own devices.
I have no problem with them wearing whatever they want. As long as they are wearing it of their own accord.
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While it is true that some women wear them because they fear abuse from their family, others actually do it voluntarily.S.Lythberg wrote:
Threat of a swift beating from your husband isn't the accepted definition of voluntary. The light head scarves I see around here may be, but nobody who isn't brainwashed or terrified would wear the all black trashbag on a scorching summer day.mafia996630 wrote:
and what about the woman who do it voluntarily ?S.Lythberg wrote:
Good, If you want to impose backwards third world laws on your friends and family, then stay in the backwards third world, don't bring your problems to developed countries and expect them to bend over.
It's a sad state of affairs when France has to take the initiative.
It doesn't make much sense, but then again... when was the last time any religion made sense?
Its not religious, its cultural.
I'd be OK with that.Campoe wrote:
Perhaps France should prosecute people who subject their children to the humiliating and degrading fantasism and dogma of Catholic Church mass on Sundays.
Fuck Israel
Same difference (and same idiocy).DrunkFace wrote:
Its not religious, its cultural.
+ 1 France.
I'd be surprised if this passes and if it does if it's not invalidated by the French courts.
I could understand some qualifications like not wearing one while driving or while getting ID, but a blanket ban really is an intrusion into the personal square.
AND it won't have any effect on the dignity of the women in question. We all know that some women are forced by their husbands or parents into wearing this things. Do any of you here who support this legislation really think that someone who will coerce a woman into totally covering herself in an open society will be deterred by a law banning the burqa in the public square? They'll simply force their wives and daughters to stay indoors all the time.
Laws like this, while possibly well-meaning, won't actually do anything to help those who are supposedly the beneficiaries of such legislation.
I could understand some qualifications like not wearing one while driving or while getting ID, but a blanket ban really is an intrusion into the personal square.
AND it won't have any effect on the dignity of the women in question. We all know that some women are forced by their husbands or parents into wearing this things. Do any of you here who support this legislation really think that someone who will coerce a woman into totally covering herself in an open society will be deterred by a law banning the burqa in the public square? They'll simply force their wives and daughters to stay indoors all the time.
Laws like this, while possibly well-meaning, won't actually do anything to help those who are supposedly the beneficiaries of such legislation.
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