Is it actually a pit bull or something more like a English Bull Terrier...SirSchloppy wrote:
This.FatherTed wrote:
The Government under the Dangerous Dogs Act '91.I'm Jamesey wrote:
Says who? she's the gentlest dog I've ever seen unless provoked, and as a responsible dog owner I keep her leashed, muzzled and safe in the fields when she's being walked. The dog isn't dangerous, it's irresponsible owners that turn them into monsters.
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A proper pit bull bred for bite inhibition towards humans, not a gross cross between a mastiff or rottweiler that are the reason that pits are on the dangerous dogs act '91coke wrote:
Is it actually a pit bull or something more like a English Bull Terrier...SirSchloppy wrote:
This.FatherTed wrote:
The Government under the Dangerous Dogs Act '91.
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You got problems with Akitas?? Wow. Where are you from? Ireland, right?IG-Calibre wrote:
A wee three year old girl was mauled by an Akita in my county yesterday, or, the day before - far too many people walking around here with far too much dog for them to control - I see dog owners being taken out for a walk by their dogs in the dog walking park close to where I live all the time. People who haven't a fucking notion walking serious animals that they think are cute and adorable - yet when the dogs kick off they shit themselves and practically run away from the situation - i've had to remove my dogs throat from a very agressive akita before it killed him - hairy fucking experience I can tell you..
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I don't have a problem with any dog tbh, but i've first hand experience of the damage Akitas can do - at the end of the day they were bred to hunt fucking bears, yet there are little kids walking about my town with them on leads without muzzle's. shocking, everyone thinks they are cute and adorable and don't get me wrong they are a really nice dog but when they are within their nature they are lethal killers end of story.CapnNismo wrote:
You got problems with Akitas?? Wow. Where are you from? Ireland, right? .
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yeah man, fuck seeing this in the parkTurquoise wrote:
If dogs get banned, I guess cats will be next. lol
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http://www.irishnews.com/appnews/540/58 … ingby.htmlCapnNismo wrote:
The Irish Akitas are that prone to violence? Wow. I've NEVER heard of them being an issue in the US.
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You're making generalizations, all dogs of the same breed are not the same and will react differently in different situations. Just because a dog is a pit bull doesn't mean it will kill us all as soon as it's blood gets up. Pit Bulls just have a higher instance of dogs which are hotheaded killers because of their breeding.Dilbert_X wrote:
All dogs are dangerous to some extent, dogs bred for killing bears, bulls, deer etc incredibly dangerous - however smart the owner thinks they are.
A colleague of mine nearly lost the use of his hand.
Walking his puppy on the beach it was suddenly attacked by two pit bulls, one of which clamped onto the puppy.
Despite my colleague stabbing at the dogs eyes, the owner smashing it over the head with a rock and a passerby kicking it repeatedly in the balls it wouldn't let go, except once to take a chomp at my colleague which seriously screwed up his hand.
Think you can control a dog bred to take down a 1 tonne bull with a few loud words when its blood gets up?
Good luck.
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I see where you're coming from, but if we live in fear of what could happen no one would leave their house, some people already do that but that's the internets fault. Truth is dogs are man's best friend and you shouldn't write dogs off as dangerous simply because they were bred back when man couldn't afford to own something that didn't play a part in his survival (maybe not survival but you know what I mean). These days animals are kept mostly for companions, so many have been artificially selected as such. The rottweiler for example, I'm sure some of the rottie owners on this site can attest to the fact that they are very sweet now. You are treating these animals like they are wild animals that should be locked up at zoos, truth is they are domesticated animals whose only true natural habitat is in your home. Are you a cat person or something? Because the way you're acting we shouldn't own any dogs because they might have a dream or something and attack us.IG-Calibre wrote:
But the point is they are animals and animals are unpredictable - I was listening to a women on the radio recently who woke up to find her dog attacking her in her bed, she ended up with something like 350 stitches in her face and had to undergo much reconstructive surgery, she had owned the dog from it was about 6 weeks old, it was 7 years old when it attacked her - completely unprovoked and it wasn't even an aggressive breed, it slept on the floor at the bottom of her bed and the theory is that it woke from a bad dream and went into a panic induced kind of frenzy, she didn't even have the animal destroyed because it has never shown any aggressive tendency ever before the attack & she loved it dearly- you are failing to understand animals capacity's to be within their nature, which is surprising for someone who works with dogs tbh, and, loads of people have wolves in their living-rooms sharing their houses that they think they are in control of.
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There are plenty of bad dogs, sometimes the owners can control them, often they can't.Narupug wrote:
There are no bad dogs, only bad owners.
Thats not the kind of dog one person should be allowed to own.IG-Calibre wrote:
in one case three grown men could not get the animal subdued and only shooting it stopped the mauling of the 15 year old kid.
I doubt they were pure breed non deformed pit bulls, my pit and staffy have been in a few fights with each other and I've always managed to pull them apart single handedly without any danger to myselfDilbert_X wrote:
All dogs are dangerous to some extent, dogs bred for killing bears, bulls, deer etc incredibly dangerous - however smart the owner thinks they are.
A colleague of mine nearly lost the use of his hand.
Walking his puppy on the beach it was suddenly attacked by two pit bulls, one of which clamped onto the puppy.
Despite my colleague stabbing at the dogs eyes, the owner smashing it over the head with a rock and a passerby kicking it repeatedly in the balls it wouldn't let go, except once to take a chomp at my colleague which seriously screwed up his hand.
Think you can control a dog bred to take down a 1 tonne bull with a few loud words when its blood gets up?
Good luck.
Do you mind naming some of these unpredictable dangerous breeds? I would like to be able to adress specific breeds in possible. Also your deal about not taking some of these dogs off leash goes right with no bad dogs only bad owners like I said. No dog should be out in public and not under your control, that's just asking for something bad to happen. At the shelter they screen prospective adopters to make sure they're competant enough to not do something stupid like letting the dog off leash.IG-Calibre wrote:
Again you're missing the point - I don't write any dog off, but certain dogs because of the nature of their breed should not be allowed to be the responsibility of people who don't appreciate what the animal is capable of, ie sending "dangerous" dogs out into the populous in the care of little more than Children - without even a muzzle on the animal, letting said animals off the leash at anytime during its exercise etc etc. I'm a dog owner and have always had a dog since I was a wee lad, I fully understand the point you are making, i'm writing people off for their incorrect handling of dangerous breeds which by their nature are unpredictable because they are under the illusion that they are in control of the animal. Did you actually read the three stories I posted? in every instance the owner lost control of the animal, in one case three grown men could not get the animal subdued and only shooting it stopped the mauling of the 15 year old kid.
Incorrect, my colleague was severely bitten by a pit bull while doing exactly that.Pure pit bulls which aren't the type of monster dogs that 'pit bulls' are percieved to be have high bite inhibition to humans, and even in a savage bloody fight wouldn't react by biting a person even if that person was holding them down or prying their jaws open.
Which could just as easily be attributed to how the dogs were raised, and mistreated.Dilbert_X wrote:
Incorrect, my colleague was severely bitten by a pit bull while doing exactly that.Pure pit bulls which aren't the type of monster dogs that 'pit bulls' are percieved to be have high bite inhibition to humans, and even in a savage bloody fight wouldn't react by biting a person even if that person was holding them down or prying their jaws open.
Another colleague was just walking down the road when two pitbulls ran out of a house and attacked him.
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Doesn't sound too good TBH, reckon you don't know how to train or control dogsSure she's got unlimited courage when it comes to fighting and will fight another animal at the drop of a hat, just out of instinct, without any desire to protect me, or herself, just because she wants to
It is a very good thing, gameness in a dog isn't the same as agressiveness, its a great quality in a dog to have, as long as you're not reckless and letting it lead to fighting between dogs.Dilbert_X wrote:
Doesn't sound too good TBH, reckon you don't know how to train or control dogsSure she's got unlimited courage when it comes to fighting and will fight another animal at the drop of a hat, just out of instinct, without any desire to protect me, or herself, just because she wants to
