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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I haven't read any significant bible passages in about 10 years now.  Can anyone point me in the direction of when and where marriage is explicitly mentioned and/or defined in the bible?

Genesis 2:18 wrote:

18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”

Genesis 2:23-24 wrote:

23 The man said,

“This is now bone of my bones

and flesh of my flesh;

she shall be called ‘woman’,

for she was taken out of man.”

24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

Leviticus 18:22 wrote:

22 “ ‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Ephesians 5:22-33 wrote:

22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.  23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.  24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her  26 to make her holy, cleansinga her by the washing with water through the word,  27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.  28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.  29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church—  30 for we are members of his body.  31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”b  32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.  33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

Romans 1:26-27 wrote:

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.  27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 wrote:

9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders  10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 7:1-9 wrote:

7 Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry.a  2 But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.  3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.  4 The wife’s body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife.  5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.  6 I say this as a concession, not as a command.  7 I wish that all men were as I am. But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.

8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.  9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Matthew 19:4-6 wrote:

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’a  5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’b?  6 So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”

Harmor wrote:

I bet alot of Lawyers are behind trying to get Gay Marriage legalized...I mean right now when a Gay couple divorces there's no legal right to 50% of their spouses stuff (30% of which the Lawyer gets).

Turquoise wrote:

This still goes back to the facts that Christianity isn't the only religion in America and Christianity isn't the only religion that defines marriage.

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

The Bible clearly defines marriage between a man and a woman, nothing in there about race. Now other religious texts, I do not know if they define marriage between a man and woman of same races, but I do not believe that they do.

Turquoise wrote:

Secondly, isn't it a bit ironic that conservatives complain about legislating from the bench, but they have no problem doing it from scripture?

“I, XXX XXX, do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will administer justice without respect to persons, and do equal right to the poor and to the rich, and that I will faithfully and impartially discharge and perform all the duties incumbent upon me as XXX under the Constitution and laws of the United States.  So help me God.”

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

"they will teach gay marriage in schools"

Already happening.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0PgjcgqFYP4


And it's funny how people say "religion FTL again", when marriage is a sacred religious ceremony.

CC-Marley wrote:

sodom and gomorrah

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

The Bible clearly defines marriage between a man and a woman, nothing in there about race. Now other religious texts, I do not know if they define marriage between a man and woman of same races, but I do not believe that they do.

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

The Bible was written around 1400 B.C., Rome was founded around 750 B.C., Carthage was founded around 810 B.C.

Turquoise wrote:

This still goes back to the facts that Christianity isn't the only religion in America and Christianity isn't the only religion that defines marriage.

Secondly, isn't it a bit ironic that conservatives complain about legislating from the bench, but they have no problem doing it from scripture?

ghettoperson wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

This still goes back to the facts that Christianity isn't the only religion in America and Christianity isn't the only religion that defines marriage.

Secondly, isn't it a bit ironic that conservatives complain about legislating from the bench, but they have no problem doing it from scripture?

As a rule of thumb, Conservatives are gigantic hypocrites.

DBBrinson1 wrote:

ghettoperson wrote:

Turquoise wrote:

This still goes back to the facts that Christianity isn't the only religion in America and Christianity isn't the only religion that defines marriage.

Secondly, isn't it a bit ironic that conservatives complain about legislating from the bench, but they have no problem doing it from scripture?

As a rule of thumb, Conservatives are gigantic hypocrites.

That is a stereotypical bigoted response.

{M5}Sniper3 wrote:

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

I haven't read any significant bible passages in about 10 years now.  Can anyone point me in the direction of when and where marriage is explicitly mentioned and/or defined in the bible?

Genesis 2:18 wrote:

18 The Lord God said, “It is not good for the man to be alone. I will make a helper suitable for him.”

Genesis 2:23-24 wrote:

23 The man said,

“This is now bone of my bones

and flesh of my flesh;

she shall be called ‘woman’,

for she was taken out of man.”

24 For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and they will become one flesh.

Leviticus 18:22 wrote:

22 “ ‘Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.

Ephesians 5:22-33 wrote:

22 Wives, submit to your husbands as to the Lord.  23 For the husband is the head of the wife as Christ is the head of the church, his body, of which he is the Savior.  24 Now as the church submits to Christ, so also wives should submit to their husbands in everything.

25 Husbands, love your wives, just as Christ loved the church and gave himself up for her  26 to make her holy, cleansinga her by the washing with water through the word,  27 and to present her to himself as a radiant church, without stain or wrinkle or any other blemish, but holy and blameless.  28 In this same way, husbands ought to love their wives as their own bodies. He who loves his wife loves himself.  29 After all, no one ever hated his own body, but he feeds and cares for it, just as Christ does the church—  30 for we are members of his body.  31 “For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh.”b  32 This is a profound mystery—but I am talking about Christ and the church.  33 However, each one of you also must love his wife as he loves himself, and the wife must respect her husband.

Romans 1:26-27 wrote:

26 Because of this, God gave them over to shameful lusts. Even their women exchanged natural relations for unnatural ones.  27 In the same way the men also abandoned natural relations with women and were inflamed with lust for one another. Men committed indecent acts with other men, and received in themselves the due penalty for their perversion.

1 Corinthians 6:9-10 wrote:

9 Do you not know that the wicked will not inherit the kingdom of God? Do not be deceived: Neither the sexually immoral nor idolaters nor adulterers nor male prostitutes nor homosexual offenders  10 nor thieves nor the greedy nor drunkards nor slanderers nor swindlers will inherit the kingdom of God.

1 Corinthians 7:1-9 wrote:

7 Now for the matters you wrote about: It is good for a man not to marry.a  2 But since there is so much immorality, each man should have his own wife, and each woman her own husband.  3 The husband should fulfill his marital duty to his wife, and likewise the wife to her husband.  4 The wife’s body does not belong to her alone but also to her husband. In the same way, the husband’s body does not belong to him alone but also to his wife.  5 Do not deprive each other except by mutual consent and for a time, so that you may devote yourselves to prayer. Then come together again so that Satan will not tempt you because of your lack of self-control.  6 I say this as a concession, not as a command.  7 I wish that all men were as I am. But each man has his own gift from God; one has this gift, another has that.

8 Now to the unmarried and the widows I say: It is good for them to stay unmarried, as I am.  9 But if they cannot control themselves, they should marry, for it is better to marry than to burn with passion.

Matthew 19:4-6 wrote:

4 “Haven’t you read,” he replied, “that at the beginning the Creator ‘made them male and female,’a  5 and said, ‘For this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife, and the two will become one flesh’b?  6 So they are no longer two, but one. Therefore what God has joined together, let man not separate.”