LA survived, that's bad.King_County_Downy wrote:
If it thwarted the attack, then how did it backfire?
(Also, wtf is waterboarding? They didn't explain it in the article.)
Umm.... we kind of need LA. Chuck Norris lives there.S.Lythberg wrote:
LA survived, that's bad.
wikipedia wrote:
Waterboarding
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Waterboarding is a form of torture[1][2] that consists of immobilizing the victim on his or her back with the head inclined downwards, and then pouring water over the face and into the breathing passages. By forced suffocation and inhalation of water, the subject experiences drowning and is caused to believe they are about to die.[3] It is considered a form of torture by legal experts,[4][5] politicians, war veterans,[6][7] intelligence officials,[8] military judges,[9] and human rights organizations.[10][11] As early as the Spanish Inquisition it was used for interrogation purposes, to punish and intimidate, and to force confessions.[12]
In contrast to submerging the head face-forward in water, waterboarding precipitates a gag reflex almost immediately.[13] The technique does not inevitably cause lasting physical damage. It can cause extreme pain, dry drowning, damage to lungs, brain damage from oxygen deprivation, other physical injuries including broken bones due to struggling against restraints, lasting psychological damage or, ultimately, death.[4] Adverse physical consequences can start manifesting months after the event; psychological effects can last for years.[14]
In 2007 it was reported that the CIA was using waterboarding on extrajudicial prisoners and that the United States Department of Justice had authorized the procedure,[15][16] a revelation that sparked a worldwide political scandal. Al-Qaeda suspects upon whom the CIA is known to have used waterboarding include Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, Abu Zubaydah, and Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri.[17][18]
The White house put out a Fact Sheet stating: "In 2002, we broke up a plot by KSM to hijack an airplane and fly it into the tallest building on the West Coast... KSM stated that the intended target was the Library Tower in Los Angeles." KSM was not captured until March 2003 in Pakistan. It is impossible that this plot was foiled due to waterboarding KSM since he wasn't captured yet!
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It's just worded oddly, they meant this is the guy, who after being waterboarded, gave up info...etc.Im_Dooomed wrote:
Honestly, ive seen that picture before of that guy (How could I forget, look at him!) So, if this was a recent event that was stopped, and that photo is of him after he was captured, how could I have seen it before?
I think they just want people to get the impression waterboarding saved them...Or maybe that isn't an actual photo of the guy they waterboarded...
/Conspiracy theory
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"that aren't white"? What exactly are you saying?Mekstizzle wrote:
You can't argue against the fact that it worked tbh
lowing NYC is also a stupid liberal place with way too many people that aren't white, why weren't you dancing in the streets when 9/11 happened?
Anything to try and justify waterboarding.Im_Dooomed wrote:
Honestly, ive seen that picture before of that guy (How could I forget, look at him!) So, if this was a recent event that was stopped, and that photo is of him after he was captured, how could I have seen it before?
I think they just want people to get the impression waterboarding saved them...Or maybe that isn't an actual photo of the guy they waterboarded...
Edit:
Apparently the government already broke up the plot on LA in 2002, before they captured this KSM guy in 2003,The White house put out a Fact Sheet stating: "In 2002, we broke up a plot by KSM to hijack an airplane and fly it into the tallest building on the West Coast... KSM stated that the intended target was the Library Tower in Los Angeles." KSM was not captured until March 2003 in Pakistan. It is impossible that this plot was foiled due to waterboarding KSM since he wasn't captured yet!
These people:lowing wrote:
"that aren't white"? What exactly are you saying?Mekstizzle wrote:
You can't argue against the fact that it worked tbh
lowing NYC is also a stupid liberal place with way too many people that aren't white, why weren't you dancing in the streets when 9/11 happened?
That's because it's Ron Jeremy.Im_Dooomed wrote:
Honestly, ive seen that picture before of that guy
Chuck Norris lives in Houston. edit: Okay, Navasota, TX. A bit outside Houston. But he does have a house in LA, I will grant you that.King_County_Downy wrote:
Umm.... we kind of need LA. Chuck Norris lives there.S.Lythberg wrote:
LA survived, that's bad.
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Gee, I didn't mention any race in that quote. What race are you, YOURSELF, assuming?m3thod wrote:
These people:lowing wrote:
"that aren't white"? What exactly are you saying?Mekstizzle wrote:
You can't argue against the fact that it worked tbh
lowing NYC is also a stupid liberal place with way too many people that aren't white, why weren't you dancing in the streets when 9/11 happened?
Over 2 million people at the Inauguration of Barrack Obama, and only 10 had to take off of work.
Eskimos?lowing wrote:
Gee, I didn't mention any race in that quote. What race are you, YOURSELF, assuming?m3thod wrote:
These people:lowing wrote:
"that aren't white"? What exactly are you saying?
Over 2 million people at the Inauguration of Barrack Obama, and only 10 had to take off of work.
I have no guess, I am not the one making race claims. Why are you making racial claims about the quote?AussieReaper wrote:
Eskimos?lowing wrote:
Gee, I didn't mention any race in that quote. What race are you, YOURSELF, assuming?m3thod wrote:
These people:
Over 2 million people at the Inauguration of Barrack Obama, and only 10 had to take off of work.
Take a guess.
My guess is that they are both rascists. I read it as being a unemployment zinger...lowing wrote:
I have no guess, I am not the one making race claims. Why are you making racial claims about the quote?AussieReaper wrote:
Eskimos?lowing wrote:
Gee, I didn't mention any race in that quote. What race are you, YOURSELF, assuming?
Take a guess.
Gee.lowing wrote:
Gee, I didn't mention any race in that quote. What race are you, YOURSELF, assuming?m3thod wrote:
These people:lowing wrote:
"that aren't white"? What exactly are you saying?
Over 2 million people at the Inauguration of Barrack Obama, and only 10 had to take off of work.
correct.DBBrinson1 wrote:
My guess is that they are both rascists. I read it as being a unemployment zinger...lowing wrote:
I have no guess, I am not the one making race claims. Why are you making racial claims about the quote?AussieReaper wrote:
Eskimos?
Take a guess.
Still didn't answer my question, you brought it up, what race are you sticking that quote to?m3thod wrote:
Gee.lowing wrote:
Gee, I didn't mention any race in that quote. What race are you, YOURSELF, assuming?m3thod wrote:
These people:
Over 2 million people at the Inauguration of Barrack Obama, and only 10 had to take off of work.
YOU don't have to.
The one's that you despise.lowing wrote:
Still didn't answer my question, you brought it up, what race are you sticking that quote to?m3thod wrote:
Gee.lowing wrote:
Gee, I didn't mention any race in that quote. What race are you, YOURSELF, assuming?
YOU don't have to.
I despisem3thod wrote:
The one's that you despise.lowing wrote:
Still didn't answer my question, you brought it up, what race are you sticking that quote to?m3thod wrote:
Gee.
YOU don't have to.