benefit
Member
+21|6018
He claims to be disappointed about the disgusting rants of the Iranian midget at the UN Racism conference aka Bash Israel forum.
Just what did he expect the poison dwarf to say?
He hardly has a track record of good judgement or seeking good relations with Israel and the west, but no doubt his fans will say he has been misquoted AGAIN.
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire
You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Are you claiming the United Nations put together a forum on racism with the tacit intention of having an anti-Israeli love-in?

And I don't see how criticizing a nation can be seen as racism - or are you one of these people who can't separate Israel from Jewishness? Israel wants to be part of the developed, civilised world... well I'm afraid they're going to have to put up with free speech and people questioning their apartheid policies in that case.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

Well the UN has tried to pass all those resolutions against Israel. Vetoed by the USA of course.

Last edited by Flecco (2009-04-20 10:28:17)

Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6455|what

Israel are about to bomb the shit out of some Iranian nuclear facilities. Of course Iran is going to talk out against it.

Pre-emptive strikes are not exactly welcomed.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

wat

Those were just test runs Reaps.


Same kind of drills those bastards at the RAAF like to run at 7am while I'm trying to sleep.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
benefit
Member
+21|6018

Braddock wrote:

You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Are you claiming the United Nations put together a forum on racism with the tacit intention of having an anti-Israeli love-in?

And I don't see how criticizing a nation can be seen as racism - or are you one of these people who can't separate Israel from Jewishness? Israel wants to be part of the developed, civilised world... well I'm afraid they're going to have to put up with free speech and people questioning their apartheid policies in that case.
yes that's it

it is just a conspiracy theory and the iranian nut job and his hench men would not dream of using the UN as a forum to push their anti-israel hatred

and of course they wouldn't be looking for special treatment for islam ...making it a crime to criticise this faith .......

and free speech isn't the issue ......it is just an opportunity for the iranian bloke to make himself look important in the eyes of the muslim nations by slagging off israel, the US and Europe......a great start to a forum against racism..lol

Last edited by benefit (2009-04-20 10:33:03)

Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5845|Toronto

Braddock wrote:

You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Are you claiming the United Nations put together a forum on racism with the tacit intention of having an anti-Israeli love-in?

And I don't see how criticizing a nation can be seen as racism - or are you one of these people who can't separate Israel from Jewishness? Israel wants to be part of the developed, civilised world... well I'm afraid they're going to have to put up with free speech and people questioning their apartheid policies in that case.
lmao. I wouldn't call the man a conspiracy theorist. I would call him a rational human being. You make it sound like nobody has an agenda when they show up to the party. That's even worse.
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
Braddock
Agitator
+916|6592|Éire

Flecco wrote:

Well the UN has tried to pass all those resolutions against Israel. Vetoed by the USA of course.
I have to laugh at people who accuse the UN of being biased... it's a bit like saying democracy is undemocratic.

The UN is everyone, every nation that wants to sit down and have a say. And when they all get together and speak out against America's overlords Israel the Americans, instead of thinking "hmmm maybe they might have a point", they just say "oh, well they're all just biased". Pretty laughable.

There is no global anti-semitic conspiracy, get over it.
JahManRed
wank
+646|6930|IRELAND

Powell used the UN to show falsified slides of imaginary WMD factories which resulted in a war which killed thousands. This is a discussion. Chill.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6903|132 and Bush

Flecco wrote:

Vetoed by the USA of course.
..and nearly the entire western world just walked out on him.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5845|Toronto

Braddock wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Well the UN has tried to pass all those resolutions against Israel. Vetoed by the USA of course.
I have to laugh at people who accuse the UN of being biased... it's a bit like saying democracy is undemocratic.
The problem is that most see the current democracies as impure. There are factors (lobbyists interest groups etc.) that move the system away from proper democracy. The criticisms of the UN are much the same. The forum does not function practically as it is supposed to theoretically.
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
Flecco
iPod is broken.
+1,048|6967|NT, like Mick Dundee

Kmarion wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Vetoed by the USA of course.
..and nearly the entire western world just walked out on him.
I meant the resolutions against Israel for it's various domestic policies.


I'm cool with my govt. withdrawing representatives from talks which would have resulted in nothing.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
benefit
Member
+21|6018

Braddock wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Well the UN has tried to pass all those resolutions against Israel. Vetoed by the USA of course.
I have to laugh at people who accuse the UN of being biased... it's a bit like saying democracy is undemocratic.

The UN is everyone, every nation that wants to sit down and have a say. And when they all get together and speak out against America's overlords Israel the Americans, instead of thinking "hmmm maybe they might have a point", they just say "oh, well they're all just biased". Pretty laughable.

There is no global anti-semitic conspiracy, get over it.
lol

yeah right

no ganging up on other countries in the UN then?

and to be honest with behaviour like that of the iranian bloke it makes me wonder why we bother with the UN anyway

it isnot about making points against individual countries.....muslim countries don't like it when it goes against them
do you not recall the show of support from arab leaders for the sudanese president when he was recently condemed by the UN....the arabs more or less said that he should ignore the UN

and it was just his usual anti west and anti israel rhetoric .....playing to the muslim audience....no interest in moving anything forward
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6883|SE London

benefit wrote:

Braddock wrote:

You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Are you claiming the United Nations put together a forum on racism with the tacit intention of having an anti-Israeli love-in?

And I don't see how criticizing a nation can be seen as racism - or are you one of these people who can't separate Israel from Jewishness? Israel wants to be part of the developed, civilised world... well I'm afraid they're going to have to put up with free speech and people questioning their apartheid policies in that case.
yes that's it

it is just a conspiracy theory and the iranian nut job and his hench men would not dream of using the UN as a forum to push their anti-israel hatred

and of course they wouldn't be looking for special treatment for islam ...making it a crime to criticise this faith .......

and free speech isn't the issue ......it is just an opportunity for the iranian bloke to make himself look important in the eyes of the muslim nations by slagging off israel, the US and Europe......a great start to a forum against racism..lol
Free speech most certainly is an issue.

One of the things the forum is about is free speech. Moves by this forum to block hate speech are amongst the reasons the US refused to attend.

You can't have it both ways.

Although I completely agree that the whole Durban + Durban II forums thing has been a farcical platform for hate speech - trying to claim free speech is not an issue here is just plain wrong.
benefit
Member
+21|6018

Bertster7 wrote:

benefit wrote:

Braddock wrote:

You sound like a conspiracy theorist. Are you claiming the United Nations put together a forum on racism with the tacit intention of having an anti-Israeli love-in?

And I don't see how criticizing a nation can be seen as racism - or are you one of these people who can't separate Israel from Jewishness? Israel wants to be part of the developed, civilised world... well I'm afraid they're going to have to put up with free speech and people questioning their apartheid policies in that case.
yes that's it

it is just a conspiracy theory and the iranian nut job and his hench men would not dream of using the UN as a forum to push their anti-israel hatred

and of course they wouldn't be looking for special treatment for islam ...making it a crime to criticise this faith .......

and free speech isn't the issue ......it is just an opportunity for the iranian bloke to make himself look important in the eyes of the muslim nations by slagging off israel, the US and Europe......a great start to a forum against racism..lol
Free speech most certainly is an issue.

some people only want the right to free speech when it is them speaking

it is free speech when they are critical of others but racism when others treat them in the same way

britain is being tied up in knots trying to keep certain groups happy who want free speech but don't want others to have it and are quick to censor people/books/films etc they don't like

it seems some people do want it both ways

One of the things the forum is about is free speech. Moves by this forum to block hate speech are amongst the reasons the US refused to attend.

You can't have it both ways.

Although I completely agree that the whole Durban + Durban II forums thing has been a farcical platform for hate speech - trying to claim free speech is not an issue here is just plain wrong.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6883|SE London

benefit wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:

benefit wrote:


yes that's it

it is just a conspiracy theory and the iranian nut job and his hench men would not dream of using the UN as a forum to push their anti-israel hatred

and of course they wouldn't be looking for special treatment for islam ...making it a crime to criticise this faith .......

and free speech isn't the issue ......it is just an opportunity for the iranian bloke to make himself look important in the eyes of the muslim nations by slagging off israel, the US and Europe......a great start to a forum against racism..lol
Free speech most certainly is an issue.

some people only want the right to free speech when it is them speaking

it is free speech when they are critical of others but racism when others treat them in the same way

britain is being tied up in knots trying to keep certain groups happy who want free speech but don't want others to have it and are quick to censor people/books/films etc they don't like

it seems some people do want it both ways

One of the things the forum is about is free speech. Moves by this forum to block hate speech are amongst the reasons the US refused to attend.

You can't have it both ways.

Although I completely agree that the whole Durban + Durban II forums thing has been a farcical platform for hate speech - trying to claim free speech is not an issue here is just plain wrong.
That's an exceptionally confusing response.

Taking Britain as a case in point, anti-hate speech laws here have primarily affected Muslims. People like Abu Hamza have been locked up due to them. That is how these laws are used in Britain. Do you have any specific examples of them being used badly?
Mekstizzle
WALKER
+3,611|6923|London, England
I don't get why people are bringing up free speech etc.. it's not like this guy isn't being allowed to say what he wants to say. It's just that people would rather not listen to it, hence the boycotts and the walkouts.

It's fucking ironic for this hardcore Islamic cocksucker to be preaching about shit like this. Get the fuck out and take a look at your own religion and history and country before you chat shit

As far as I'm concerned, Jews never invaded half the world and tried to convert everyone. Islam did. End of discussion for me. Islam has always been an Imperialist religion.
Man With No Name
جندي
+148|5877|The Wild West

Mekstizzle wrote:

I don't get why people are bringing up free speech etc.. it's not like this guy isn't being allowed to say what he wants to say. It's just that people would rather not listen to it, hence the boycotts and the walkouts.

It's fucking ironic for this hardcore Islamic cocksucker to be preaching about shit like this. Get the fuck out and take a look at your own religion and history and country before you chat shit

As far as I'm concerned, Jews never invaded half the world and tried to convert everyone. Islam did. End of discussion for me. Islam has always been an Imperialist religion.
the free speech thing is about how they want to ban any kind of criticism of islam or muhummad.
Bertster7
Confused Pothead
+1,101|6883|SE London

Mekstizzle wrote:

I don't get why people are bringing up free speech etc.. it's not like this guy isn't being allowed to say what he wants to say. It's just that people would rather not listen to it, hence the boycotts and the walkouts.

It's fucking ironic for this hardcore Islamic cocksucker to be preaching about shit like this. Get the fuck out and take a look at your own religion and history and country before you chat shit

As far as I'm concerned, Jews never invaded half the world and tried to convert everyone. Islam did. End of discussion for me. Islam has always been an Imperialist religion.
One of the purposes of the forum is to discuss free speech and possible anti-hate speech stuffs.
benefit
Member
+21|6018

Bertster7 wrote:

benefit wrote:

Bertster7 wrote:


Free speech most certainly is an issue.

some people only want the right to free speech when it is them speaking

it is free speech when they are critical of others but racism when others treat them in the same way

britain is being tied up in knots trying to keep certain groups happy who want free speech but don't want others to have it and are quick to censor people/books/films etc they don't like

it seems some people do want it both ways

One of the things the forum is about is free speech. Moves by this forum to block hate speech are amongst the reasons the US refused to attend.

You can't have it both ways.

Although I completely agree that the whole Durban + Durban II forums thing has been a farcical platform for hate speech - trying to claim free speech is not an issue here is just plain wrong.
That's an exceptionally confusing response.

Taking Britain as a case in point, anti-hate speech laws here have primarily affected Muslims. People like Abu Hamza have been locked up due to them. That is how these laws are used in Britain. Do you have any specific examples of them being used badly?
geert wilder was banned from entering britain and not allowed to show his filmbecause muslims were going to protest and cause chaos in london

he had made a film that muslims did not like and did not want to be viewed....

and this UN conference was set to fail as the iranian man was always going to behave in this way....he has a track record of it

and recently a hezbollah spokesman was allowed to enter britain.....a terrorist allowed in and a dutch mp not .......bias?

the forum was supposed to be about taxkling racism not used to attack israel

it wasn't an anything goes forum it was supposed to be about racism....and i suppose it is ......but as much as this man says israel is racist he shows his complete bigotry...even the french leader called his speeh a hate speech
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6903|132 and Bush

Mekstizzle wrote:

I don't get why people are bringing up free speech etc.. it's not like this guy isn't being allowed to say what he wants to say. It's just that people would rather not listen to it, hence the boycotts and the walkouts.

It's fucking ironic for this hardcore Islamic cocksucker to be preaching about shit like this. Get the fuck out and take a look at your own religion and history and country before you chat shit

As far as I'm concerned, Jews never invaded half the world and tried to convert everyone. Islam did. End of discussion for me. Islam has always been an Imperialist religion.
Sit the hell down and listen to my free speech damnit!!
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6903|132 and Bush

Xbone Stormsurgezz
benefit
Member
+21|6018
and who can blame them.....?
he was preaching to the converted.....

his kind of behaviour will hasten the end of the UN
rammunition
Fully Loaded
+143|6163

benefit wrote:

He claims to be disappointed about the disgusting rants of the Iranian midget at the UN Racism conference aka Bash Israel forum.
Just what did he expect the poison dwarf to say?
He hardly has a track record of good judgement or seeking good relations with Israel and the west, but no doubt his fans will say he has been misquoted AGAIN.
LOL!!

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in … 920AAfO5WQ

STALKER!!!!!!!

YOU SAD WOMEN. EXPOSED. STOP STALKING ME

(NOTE TYPING AND ......USED ON BOTH POSTS)

Last edited by rammunition (2009-04-20 12:51:13)

benefit
Member
+21|6018

rammunition wrote:

benefit wrote:

He claims to be disappointed about the disgusting rants of the Iranian midget at the UN Racism conference aka Bash Israel forum.
Just what did he expect the poison dwarf to say?
He hardly has a track record of good judgement or seeking good relations with Israel and the west, but no doubt his fans will say he has been misquoted AGAIN.
LOL!!

http://uk.answers.yahoo.com/question/in … 920AAfO5WQ

STALKER!!!!!!!

YOU SAD WOMEN. EXPOSED. STOP STALKING ME

(NOTE TYPING AND ......USED ON BOTH POSTS)
hahaha!!!

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