ATG
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usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

All the happiest people I know went there and stayed.
thats because they cant find anything tangible to go to.  hence crutch
And what do you have?

Bumpkiss?
usmarine
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ATG wrote:

usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

All the happiest people I know went there and stayed.
thats because they cant find anything tangible to go to.  hence crutch
And what do you have?

Bumpkiss?
hockey and beer.
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6519|Montucky

usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

usmarine wrote:


thats because they cant find anything tangible to go to.  hence crutch
And what do you have?

Bumpkiss?
hockey and beer.
Titties and Beer and Hockey, Football, Fishing, Hunting, Riding my CRF230, teaching my son to ride his CR50....  ya know the finer things in life.
ATG
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hmmm.

hockey and beer.
Inspiring as an ass full of rocks tbh.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6675|Canberra, AUS
Another question: How much of what is known as morality actually is based on a response to the threat of retaliation? The whole premise that you don't do that to me, I won't do it to you?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
S3v3N
lolwut?
+685|6519|Montucky

Spark wrote:

Another question: How much of what is known as morality actually is based on a response to the threat of retaliation? The whole premise that you don't do that to me, I won't do it to you?
yeah that whole Eye for an Eye thing.
Reciprocity
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ATG wrote:

I have a lot of apathy, bitterness and cynicism and paranoia.

I can't see how excluding God from my life makes me any happier.

Why not.
does god's presence in your life keep you from doing destructive things to yourself and others?  Is that what controls you?
ATG
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Reciprocity wrote:

ATG wrote:

I have a lot of apathy, bitterness and cynicism and paranoia.

I can't see how excluding God from my life makes me any happier.

Why not.
does god's presence in your life keep you from doing destructive things to yourself and others?  Is that what controls you?
You miss the point.
He has but a small presence in my life and maybe I am getting to the point where I am ready to stop rejecting him.
Macbeth
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ATG wrote:

Have you ever had a experience in which you almost died.
I did.

I felt a presence.
I saw between our world and their worlds. I knew that I had to live. It was not my time to join them.
Yeah I did once. Didn't feel any closeness to God or anything else till a few months later when the circumstances felt in. But thinking about it it was just an accident that saved my life. Considering the things I did before that and what I did after I can't wrap my head around why A god would want or allow me to live.
Wish I could believe in God, but can't.
usmarine
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ATG wrote:

hmmm.

hockey and beer.
Inspiring as an ass full of rocks tbh.
i dont need to be inspired.  hence crutch
ATG
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usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

hmmm.

hockey and beer.
Inspiring as an ass full of rocks tbh.
i dont need to be inspired.  hence crutch
I don't believe you.
Reciprocity
Member
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ATG wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

ATG wrote:

I have a lot of apathy, bitterness and cynicism and paranoia.

I can't see how excluding God from my life makes me any happier.

Why not.
does god's presence in your life keep you from doing destructive things to yourself and others?  Is that what controls you?
You miss the point.
He has but a small presence in my life and maybe I am getting to the point where I am ready to stop rejecting him.
then what are you try to gain? self control?  or are just retaking what was given to you, but on your own terms?
usmarine
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ATG wrote:

usmarine wrote:

ATG wrote:

hmmm.

hockey and beer.
Inspiring as an ass full of rocks tbh.
i dont need to be inspired.  hence crutch
I don't believe you.
thats fine.  god be with you.  i will pass around the collection plate if you feel it necessary to contribute to my beer and hockey religion.

Last edited by usmarine (2009-04-02 23:23:15)

ATG
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Reciprocity wrote:

ATG wrote:

Reciprocity wrote:

does god's presence in your life keep you from doing destructive things to yourself and others?  Is that what controls you?
You miss the point.
He has but a small presence in my life and maybe I am getting to the point where I am ready to stop rejecting him.
then what are you try to gain? self control?  or are just retaking what was given to you, but on your own terms?
Sort of maybe.

Events are sucking me into a vortex where I need assistance.

I'm tired.
Reciprocity
Member
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ATG wrote:

Sort of maybe.

Events are sucking me into a vortex where I need assistance.

I'm tired.
then seek out that help wherever you think it may be found.
ATG
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+5,233|6529|Global Command

Reciprocity wrote:

ATG wrote:

Sort of maybe.

Events are sucking me into a vortex where I need assistance.

I'm tired.
then seek out that help wherever you think it may be found.
I am incapable of preaching.




This thread asked questions.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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ATG, continue with the Bible study lessons.


Throw yourself at it and see what it gives back.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
ATG
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Flecco wrote:

ATG, continue with the Bible study lessons.


Throw yourself at it and see what it gives back.
Do I get my time back if the world goes to hell?
No.


do we go to hell?


you don't know and neither do I or the pope.

Why not just hedge bets?


When I was a child I had a fever.
My hands felt just like two balloons.
Now I got that feeling once again.
I cant explain, you would not understand.
This is not how I am.
I have become comfortably numb.

Ok.
Just a little pinprick. [ping]
Therell be no more --aaaaaahhhhh!
But you may feel a little sick.

Can you stand up?
I do believe its working. good.
Thatll keep you going for the show.
Come on its time to go.
Macbeth
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Time to sleep, final words in this thread till tomorrow.

Just be happy with or without a God. Life is way too short to argue and fight over something we can not prove to exist or not.
Night bf2s
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
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Flaming_Maniac wrote:

The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
And this doesn't bother anyone? Particularly the last sentence?

Sounds a bit sociopathic, tbh.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
m3thod
All kiiiiiiiiinds of gainz
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FEOS wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

The comfort that any illusion of meaning to be gleaned from existence is defined by no one but yourself. Standards are your own to set, to live and die by. So long as you do not cheat yourself, you cannot be wrong.
And this doesn't bother anyone? Particularly the last sentence?

Sounds a bit sociopathic, tbh.
elborate.
Blackbelts are just whitebelts who have never quit.
AussieReaper
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+5,761|6153|what

ATG wrote:

Why not just hedge bets?
It's a big gamble, I'm mean, what if you've picked the wrong religion?

Each day you're making God madder and madder.

The Atheist though can be judged on his actions, without a religious context. A fairer judge of man imo.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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If people choose to find comfort and meaning in a god, fine.

I find being the product of billions of years of evolution in a complex universe and interacting with it fascinating enough.
I'm perfectly comfortable with the idea that an infinitesimal instability in primordial matter created everything we see now.

But each to their own, don't bother me with your theories and I won't bother you - or point out their flaws
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AussieReaper
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^billions of years of evolution? you say some silly things at times, dilbert. lol
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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I was including development of the universe in the process of evolution.
Anyway, the age of the earth is reckoned to be ~4.5bn years so for once I'm right - or close enough.
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