Flecco
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Do the only thing that hasn't been done by mainstream WW2 games before?

Spoiler (highlight to read):
I'm talking about a campaign from the German viewpoint. Specifically the Heer.
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Ioan92
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To be honest, I'd fucking love it. I'm really tired of being on good side, why can't I be evil for once?!

But its not going to happen. Guaranteed, and if it does; it will be banned in Germany and heavily criticized of having bad influences on children and humanizing the actions of the Nazis and you get it.

And etc, etc, etc
Aries_37
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you can play as the germans in the company of heroes campaign
RDMC
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Been wanting to do that for ages now. Instead of storming the beaches or Normandy, I'd rather be in that big bunker shooting down with my MG42
Bradt3hleader
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RDMC wrote:

Been wanting to do that for ages now. Instead of storming the beaches or Normandy, I'd rather be in that big bunker shooting down with my MG42
But in the back of your head you know that you're going to get seriously fucking skull fucked by the fucking awesome U S of A. (Bragging how USA kicks a$$)

Maybe something like All Quiet on the Western Front WW2 style.
FatherTed
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Bradt3hleader wrote:

RDMC wrote:

Been wanting to do that for ages now. Instead of storming the beaches or Normandy, I'd rather be in that big bunker shooting down with my MG42
But in the back of your head you know that you're going to get seriously fucking skull fucked by the fucking awesome U S of A. (Bragging how USA kicks a$$)

Maybe something like All Quiet on the Western Front WW2 style.
Yes. It was just the USA in Normandy. K
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Flecco
iPod is broken.
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Aries_37 wrote:

you can play as the germans in the company of heroes campaign
Meant to write FPS.

That's only with the exp pack too.



Ioan, the Heer didn't run about shooting gypsies/romanians/disabled people/Jews/gays. They were the normal Army and in many cases the higher ranks didn't hear about SS atrocities until 1941-42. A good portion of the officers were old German Nobility and not the greatest fans the Nazis ever had.


Your character would probably have to die though. Idk, maybe feature the stories of 2 or 3 different dudes in different units.

@ Ted, of course it was. Wtf m8. You think the British paratroops who held the entire eastern flank of the invasion have a n y t h i n g  to do with it? Fucking crazy Irishman.
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FatherTed
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Oh yeh, you can play 1942 from the pov of the axis
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h4hagen
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Your charactor could always just end up surrendering. Would be a fun twist.
Ioan92
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Flecco wrote:

Ioan, the Heer didn't run about shooting gypsies/romanians/disabled people/Jews/gays. They were the normal Army and in many cases the higher ranks didn't hear about SS atrocities until 1941-42. A good portion of the officers were old German Nobility and not the greatest fans the Nazis ever had.
Ill have to disagree with you, The Wehrmacht was also partially involved. But most likely it was coming from the fanatics in the Wehrmacht. There where the one without the necessary to be SS and those who where forced to I suppose.

I got that info here: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_crimes … _Wehrmacht


As for the campaign, I have an idea. Make it an old Wehrmacht veteran telling his story, how the Nazis got to stalingrad and back, how he survived, etc.. You get my point.

gypsies/romanians/disabled people/Jews/gays
Romani = Gypsies, do not confound romanians and romani.

Adding to it, the game would still be probably banned or very censored in Germany and would still probably be heavily criticized.

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Sydney
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I'd love to see that, the German army is just soo much cooler than any other. I get to drive a T34-85 in CoD1, I get to drive a Crusader in CoD2, whoop-de-doo, I WANT TO DRIVE A KING TIGER
CrazeD
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FatherTed wrote:

Bradt3hleader wrote:

RDMC wrote:

Been wanting to do that for ages now. Instead of storming the beaches or Normandy, I'd rather be in that big bunker shooting down with my MG42
But in the back of your head you know that you're going to get seriously fucking skull fucked by the fucking awesome U S of A. (Bragging how USA kicks a$$)

Maybe something like All Quiet on the Western Front WW2 style.
Yes. It was just the USA in Normandy. K
No, but Omaha was the most epic, tbh.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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Ioan92 wrote:

Flecco wrote:

gypsies/romanians/disabled people/Jews/gays
Romani = Gypsies, do not confound romanians and romani.

Adding to it, the game would still be probably banned or very censored in Germany and would still probably be heavily criticized.
They still executed them I believe which is why I put them both down.


Oh and the Red Army committed almost all of the war crimes the German Army committed, particularly in Poland. We still put them in games and happily glorify them. They hadn't signed on for the Geneva Convention either so I'm not sure where that puts them as far as War Crimes committed for or against them goes.


Tbh the way we treat Germany's history in the first half of this century is ridiculous, sure the Nazis were a fucked up bunch, but who put Germany in a position for them to seize power? [/D&ST]
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CrazeD
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Flecco wrote:

Tbh the way we treat Germany's history in the first half of this century is ridiculous, sure the Nazis were a fucked up bunch, but who put Germany in a position for them to seize power? [/D&ST]
I agree.

It'd make a pretty cool game I think. You wouldn't really have to put into the game all the shit they did, of course, so I don't really see what the huge problem is. They were in a war just as we were, they shot people just as we did.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
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Fuck the Heer, I want to play as Waffen SS and shoot civilians and POWs!!!!

jkjkjk
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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They should make one about being Polish.


Basically it would be like BF2 when your uncap is getting camped by tanks/APCs/Planes.
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Spearhead
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Flecco wrote:

They should make one about being Polish.


Basically it would be like BF2 when your uncap is getting camped by tanks/APCs/Planes.
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Short answer: No.
Ioan92
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Flecco wrote:

Ioan92 wrote:

Flecco wrote:

gypsies/romanians/disabled people/Jews/gays
Romani = Gypsies, do not confound romanians and romani.

Adding to it, the game would still be probably banned or very censored in Germany and would still probably be heavily criticized.
They still executed them I believe which is why I put them both down.


Oh and the Red Army committed almost all of the war crimes the German Army committed, particularly in Poland. We still put them in games and happily glorify them. They hadn't signed on for the Geneva Convention either so I'm not sure where that puts them as far as War Crimes committed for or against them goes.


Tbh the way we treat Germany's history in the first half of this century is ridiculous, sure the Nazis were a fucked up bunch, but who put Germany in a position for them to seize power? [/D&ST]
They got rid of 50% of the Romanian Jewish population.

Yes, I agree with you, that's funny part, all sides committed atrocities, lets not even talk about the soviets giving their privates the choice between victory, German bullets or Russian bullets, especially that TK fest in Stalingrad. What about the atrocities the rest of the world has committed?! They all sorta seemed to get away with it. Germany apparently didn't because they are driven like puppies these days, just look at how they censor every fucking game that has violence in it, look at what they did to generals, replacing humans with cyborgs; COD WAW replacing the Swastika with a bloody cross, muting the fuhrer when you win as the Wehrmacht in MP. Seriously. This is fucking insane.

The people who still bitch about what the Germans did in WW2 should seriously consider shutting the fuck up, its been more than half a century, what's done is done, could we move on please?! If a game where you are a Wehrmacht soldier offends you then its time to seek help.

/thread derail /end rant
Sisco
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Ioan92 wrote:

Flecco wrote:

Ioan92 wrote:


Romani = Gypsies, do not confound romanians and romani.

Adding to it, the game would still be probably banned or very censored in Germany and would still probably be heavily criticized.
They still executed them I believe which is why I put them both down.


Oh and the Red Army committed almost all of the war crimes the German Army committed, particularly in Poland. We still put them in games and happily glorify them. They hadn't signed on for the Geneva Convention either so I'm not sure where that puts them as far as War Crimes committed for or against them goes.


Tbh the way we treat Germany's history in the first half of this century is ridiculous, sure the Nazis were a fucked up bunch, but who put Germany in a position for them to seize power? [/D&ST]
They got rid of 50% of the Romanian Jewish population.

Yes, I agree with you, that's funny part, all sides committed atrocities, lets not even talk about the soviets giving their privates the choice between victory, German bullets or Russian bullets, especially that TK fest in Stalingrad. What about the atrocities the rest of the world has committed?! They all sorta seemed to get away with it. Germany apparently didn't because they are driven like puppies these days, just look at how they censor every fucking game that has violence in it, look at what they did to generals, replacing humans with cyborgs; COD WAW replacing the Swastika with a bloody cross, muting the fuhrer when you win as the Wehrmacht in MP. Seriously. This is fucking insane.

The people who still bitch about what the Germans did in WW2 should seriously consider shutting the fuck up, its been more than half a century, what's done is done, could we move on please?! If a game where you are a Wehrmacht soldier offends you then its time to seek help.

/thread derail /end rant
Problem is, any Faschist symbols are against the constitution by law. And since video games arn´t yet fully accepted as art (like movies are) there is no way they put in swastikas and all that stuff. It´s not that they don´t want you to see it, cause in movies there are plenty without being cut.

As for moving on, it´s difficult, cause moving on tends to make people forget. And those who forget history are bound to repeat it. That´s why we germans are so cautious with putting the past to rest.
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RDMC
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Bradt3hleader wrote:

RDMC wrote:

Been wanting to do that for ages now. Instead of storming the beaches or Normandy, I'd rather be in that big bunker shooting down with my MG42
But in the back of your head you know that you're going to get seriously fucking skull fucked by the fucking awesome U S of A. (Bragging how USA kicks a$$)

Maybe something like All Quiet on the Western Front WW2 style.
A game based on All Quiet on the Western Front, that would be one boring game
AussieReaper
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I'd like to see a German campaign with the push into Russia. The battle for Stalingrad. And then the encirclement and utter defeat by Russian forces.

For once a game that ends with you dying alone in the cold, would be epic.
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firebolt5
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AussieReaper wrote:

For once a game that ends with you dying alone in the cold, would be epic.
Yeah but some players complained because Spoiler (highlight to read):
their characters died in the end in CoD4.
Ioan92
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firebolt5 wrote:

Yeah but some players complained because Spoiler (highlight to read):
their characters died in the end in CoD4.
Spoiler (highlight to read):
Just reply to them the following : Man the fuck up, lol




Seriously though, your character dieing at the end really adds to the experience. Has some emotion, not like the typical "Hollywood" everyone survives and goes back to their families and live happy forever- ending.
Flecco
iPod is broken.
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firebolt5 wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

For once a game that ends with you dying alone in the cold, would be epic.
Yeah but some players complained because Spoiler (highlight to read):
their characters died in the end in CoD4.
The ending of the USMC campaign in CoD4 WAS FUCKING EPIC. Seriously, stumbling around half dead after a nuclear blast for about a minute.... What a hell of a statement to put in a game about nukes and the damage they do.

Sisco10 wrote:

Problem is, any Faschist symbols are against the constitution by law. And since video games arn´t yet fully accepted as art (like movies are) there is no way they put in swastikas and all that stuff. It´s not that they don´t want you to see it, cause in movies there are plenty without being cut.
I'm all for some games being accepted as art (Deus Ex, System Shock, Thief games, Beyond Good and Evil, Psychonauts etc) but please don't let our politicians hear that. They hijacked the Aussie film industry in the 1990s and set up a bureaucratic corporation with government funding to decide what goes ahead and what doesn't on its 'artistic merits'... Not on how entertaining the idea is. Films as awesome as Mad Max will never be made by Aus again, not while the Film Finance Corp exists.
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