Israeli Soldiers admit Gaza abuses

2009-03-19 07:23:54

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Source

Might as well throw this out before ramm finds it.

BBC wrote:
An Israeli military college has printed damning soldiers' accounts of the killing of civilians and vandalism during recent operations in Gaza.

One account tells of a sniper killing a mother and children at close range whom troops had told to leave their home.

Another speaker at the seminar described what he saw as the "cold blooded murder" of a Palestinian woman.

The army has defended its conduct during the Gaza offensive but said it would investigate the testimonies.

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2009-03-19 07:25:43

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Some soldiers are fuck tards. Kinda like the ones in Iraq being ask why they were there, and their replies being "To kill shit you dumbass"

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2009-03-19 07:27:26

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Cybargs wrote:
Some soldiers are fuck tards. Kinda like the ones in Iraq being ask why they were there, and their replies being "To kill shit you dumbass"

My thoughts pretty much.

You'll always get a bad apple in any basket, and no military that operates on a large scale can claim to be clean of stuff like this.

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2009-03-19 07:30:46

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Correspondents say the testimonies, if proved credible,...........

come on Ted. ffs

2009-03-19 07:31:53

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usmarine wrote:
Correspondents say the testimonies, if proved credible,...........

come on Ted. ffs

What would you rather, i post a clean bbc link, or that test tuber posts some mental rant?

Actually, his mental rants are sort of funny.

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2009-03-19 07:32:50

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either way it should not even be discussed because it is not even verified. fucking bbc. how about you verify your shit first.

2009-03-19 07:35:05

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usmarine wrote:
either way it should not even be discussed because it is not even verified. fucking bbc. how about you verify your shit first.

BBC has gone a little downhill of late, too much coverage on jade goody for my liking. But the article does say pretty clearly that the college has printed these testimonies. I don't really know why a soldier would make it up.

Either way, i tapped out my feelings on this thing earlier on

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2009-03-19 07:36:52

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Oh cmon, it's not like it never happened. usmarine is acting like it's never happened and that it has to be proved completely, of course it happened it was a war and Israeli's hate Palestinians and given the chance it's not surprising that many did what people have alleged them to do. What's the point in denying it/trying to defend them? No point covering up your eyes/burying your head in the sand, the Palestinians aren't completely clean and everyone knows it, but what I don't understand about some people is the complete refusal to accept/beleive that Israel is a nation that does no wrong whatsoever. Maybe it goes back to how people see Israel as a land of god and all that shit about Jews I dunno, maybe it was that fucking Catholic school or some shit lulz

To think that war crimes don't happen on both sides of the Arab-Israeli conflict is just silly... or that it only happens on the Arab side

2009-03-19 07:37:40

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it not that a soldier "made them up." eye witness accounts are terrible. pretty much law enforcement takes eye witness testimony with a hug grain of salt.

but, i will reserve judgement until these stories are deemed "credible."

LOL why the fuck would you even publish a story like this until it is verified? that is so disturbing it makes me sick.

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skittles, just stop. you always seem to miss the point.

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2009-03-19 07:39:29

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If I were dealing with a people who liked to strap on explosives and blow up markets I would be a little pissed too.

This is another reason why they shouldn't be launching rockets.

Rockets=soldiers=dead people including women and children.

It's like day following night.

2009-03-19 07:41:57

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usmarine wrote:
it not that a soldier "made them up." eye witness accounts are terrible. pretty much law enforcement takes eye witness testimony with a hug grain of salt.

but, i will reserve judgement until these stories are deemed "credible."

LOL why the fuck would you even publish a story like this until it is verified? that is so disturbing it makes me sick.

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skittles, just stop. you always seem to miss the point.

No I see the point clearly, although you're talking about a specific example you always seem to be like this when it comes to Israeli-Arab conflict, you seem to be able to note all the Arab crimes like most of us can but when it comes to Israel you seem to get abit defensive/uppity about things and say this and that.

That's the difference, you can't see both sides of the conflict, you only choose to see it on one side. I was like that for abit, and I'll still admit I still lean towards Israel than I do towards the Muslims obviously, but I still try to see both sides of the story/conflict

2009-03-19 07:45:02

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lol...my problem is with the story itself. and why the bbc would post it. also, if you are going to make statements like that, please back them up. or shut up. either way.

2009-03-19 07:45:59

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The transcript of the session for the college's Yitzhak Rabin pre-military course, which was held last month, appeared in a newsletter published by the academy.

Well then, why is a scanned copy not already plastered all over the internets?

2009-03-19 07:48:47

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http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2009/ma … -civilians

Same thing from the Guardian, bear in mind the Guardian is a bit of a tree huggers paper.

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2009-03-19 07:49:55

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ATG wrote:
If I were dealing with a people who liked to strap on explosives and blow up markets I would be a little pissed too.

This is another reason why they shouldn't be launching rockets.

Rockets=soldiers=dead people including women and children.

It's like day following night.

But you must understand that the militants are often as cold-hearted as the military machine they are fighting against. They know there will be civilian casualties but they accept them anyway in the hope that these casualties will publicize their cause and gain them sympathy from the outside world... it's all very cynical. I feel sorry for the innocent members of the public who get used as pawns in the whole mess, Jews and Arabs.

Two wrongs don't make a right. Some of the actions being alleged here are terrorism plain and simple and if proven should be regarded as such in the eyes of the International community.

2009-03-19 07:50:28

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And the same from Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/homepage … ._CH_.2400

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2009-03-19 07:51:23

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Mekstizzle wrote:
usmarine wrote:
it not that a soldier "made them up." eye witness accounts are terrible. pretty much law enforcement takes eye witness testimony with a hug grain of salt.

but, i will reserve judgement until these stories are deemed "credible."

LOL why the fuck would you even publish a story like this until it is verified? that is so disturbing it makes me sick.

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skittles, just stop. you always seem to miss the point.
No I see the point clearly, although you're talking about a specific example you always seem to be like this when it comes to Israeli-Arab conflict, you seem to be able to note all the Arab crimes like most of us can but when it comes to Israel you seem to get abit defensive/uppity about things and say this and that.

That's the difference, you can't see both sides of the conflict, you only choose to see it on one side. I was like that for abit, and I'll still admit I still lean towards Israel than I do towards the Muslims obviously, but I still try to see both sides of the story/conflict

you are getting annoying. my problem is that i can see both sides, but i take issue when one side gets rewarded for stuff like that, and the other gets investigated, yet people will defend the other side to no end. see the difference? figure it out son. its not that hard.

2009-03-19 07:51:45

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usmarine wrote:
lol...my problem is with the story itself. and why the bbc would post it. also, if you are going to make statements like that, please back them up. or shut up. either way.

Of course if the news story were to do with Palestinian atrocities it would already be covered with your cum stains.

2009-03-19 07:52:46

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Braddock wrote:
usmarine wrote:
lol...my problem is with the story itself. and why the bbc would post it. also, if you are going to make statements like that, please back them up. or shut up. either way.
Of course if the news story were to do with Palestinian atrocities it would already be covered with your cum stains.

show me once where i ever posted something like that. ill wait. put down your guiness and have fun searching.

2009-03-19 07:53:12

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Sigh.

Everyone chillax a bit, i posted it like so to avoid some mental rant being the OP and the thread just following suit.

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2009-03-19 07:53:51

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FatherTed wrote:
And the same from Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/homepage … ._CH_.2400

are you going to keep posting random links to a unverified story all day? what are you trying to prove?

2009-03-19 07:54:33

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usmarine wrote:
Braddock wrote:
usmarine wrote:
lol...my problem is with the story itself. and why the bbc would post it. also, if you are going to make statements like that, please back them up. or shut up. either way.
Of course if the news story were to do with Palestinian atrocities it would already be covered with your cum stains.
show me once where i ever posted something like that. ill wait. put down your guiness and have fun searching.

I'll put down your mum and have a search... so you want examples of you blindly defending Israel when they are accused of atrocities? Mmmm...

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 5#p2562055

2009-03-19 07:55:33

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usmarine wrote:
FatherTed wrote:
And the same from Reuters

http://www.reuters.com/article/homepage … ._CH_.2400
are you going to keep posting random links to a unverified story all day? what are you trying to prove?

For the love of god, i'm just supporting the OP with further links, so people can see it from more than one source.

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2009-03-19 07:56:03

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Braddock wrote:
usmarine wrote:
Braddock wrote:

Of course if the news story were to do with Palestinian atrocities it would already be covered with your cum stains.
show me once where i ever posted something like that. ill wait. put down your guiness and have fun searching.
I'll put down your mum and have a search... so you want examples of you blindly defending Israel when they are accused of atrocities? Mmmm...

http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 5#p2562055

oh lord. i am not defending anyone. lol......you guys are such idiots.

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