IG-Calibre
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Looks like loopy season is under way until the last Saturday!

Dissident republicans were behind the violence that broke out in the Ardoyne area of north Belfast, Sinn Fein have claimed.


Ugly scenes erupted ahead of the Orange parade at the flashpoint outside the Ardoyne shops yesterday.

Riot police were targeted with a barrage of petrol bombs and missiles as Orangemen attempted to complete the final leg of their annual march.

At least nine officers were injured during the violence which saw petrol bombs, bricks, and at least one shot being fired by republicans.

In a bid to maintain order police fired 18 baton rounds and deployed a water cannon against rioters.
https://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00116/ard9_116442s.jpg

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/ … 04310.html
FatherTed
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*sigh*
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Braddock
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We need heavier rain... I've noticed that rioting is a very weather-dependent activity in this country.
IG-Calibre
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Bullets have been sent to relatives of security force members working in a bank in Derry.

They were in an envelope along with a threat against the employees, although none was named individually.

Six bullets were sent to the bank on the Culmore Road. A number of items have been taken away for forensic examination.

A police spokesman in Derry said they do not speculate on issues relating to the security of an individual.


http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8168197.stm
IG-Calibre
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An illegal road block set up by armed and masked men in south Armagh has been described as "sinister and unwelcome" by SDLP MLA Dominic Bradley.

Police said a patrol witnessed the men stopping vehicles in the Meigh area near Newry on Friday evening.

A PSNI spokesperson said the patrol pulled back to allow the situation to be fully evaluated.

Mr Bradley said the men had handed out leaflets asking people not to co-operate with the PSNI and Irish police.

"This is an unwelcome development and harks back to a time which most people here have moved on from and want to leave firmly in the past," he said.

"I am confident that people in the area will not allow this type of activity which was never welcome, to deter them from moving forward into a better future.

"I would ask anyone who has any information regarding this incident to convey it to the police without delay."

Police have asked for anyone with information about the incident to get in touch.
FatherTed
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last time i was in enniskillen we had people givin out the leaflets in pubs
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IG-Calibre
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aye... but when the PSNI is watching them operating illegal checkpoints armed with ak's and rocket launchers then nipping back over the border when finished is very alarming tbf..

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Dilbert_X
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In a bid to maintain order police fired 18 baton rounds and deployed a water cannon against rioters.
Seems reasonable.
but when the PSNI is watching them operating illegal checkpoints armed with ak's and rocket launchers then nipping back over the border when finished is very alarming tbf..
So what are they, wannabe plod?

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-08-25 07:07:21)

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IG-Calibre
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Dilbert_X wrote:

So what are they, wannabe plod?
you know fair point.. they sit in their landrovers and watch Loyalist mobs kick Catholics to death in the streets & now this, runaway when confronted with paramilitaries, turns out there was eight PSNI officers I thought originally just 2.. pathetic

It was dusk as the lead police car approached the crossroads at the centre of Meigh village close to the border in south Armagh.

It was one of four PSNI vehicles in the vicinity, on routine calls in the area on Friday evening.

In the fading light, the constable driving saw three men standing in the middle of the road.

He was 100 yards from the crossroads when it became clear that the men were masked and carrying rifles. The officer stopped.

The dissident republicans mounting the illegal checkpoint may not have realised that the unmarked car was a police vehicle.

The BBC subsequently established that there had been at least seven terrorists, maybe more.

Six were carrying machine guns, the other is said to have had a rocket launcher and they were handing out leaflets warning people against co-operating with the security forces on either side of the border.

As one of the gunmen waved for the police to come on, the officer radioed his colleagues what he had seen, turned and drove out of the area.

  There was a lack of intelligence support, a lack of training. We should have known and been looked after more, but I felt isolated

PSNI officer
The four police cars met up a short distance away and returned to their base in Newry.

In the intervening few days there has been much public debate about whether the patrol did the right thing by withdrawing.

Some have suggested that the police should have moved in and arrested the gang.

Others have concluded that that would have led to a gunfight in the middle of the village with potentially disastrous consequences for civilians and police alike.

There had been eight officers in total on the patrol, two women and six men, both full time and reserve, two to each car.

I met one of them on Tuesday after they agreed to give the BBC an account of their experience in south Armagh last Friday night.

'Vulnerable'

The person I spoke to is a police officer with experience of pre and post ceasefire policing.

The patrol was on routine calls and had no advance warning that they might run into a dissident IRA checkpoint.

The officer I spoke to said he feels let down.

"I've never felt as vulnerable. After many years service in some sticky areas, I've never felt as vulnerable and so bereft of support," he said.

"There was a lack of intelligence support, a lack of training. We should have known and been looked after more, but I felt isolated."

When the officer refers to lack of training, they are talking about anti-ambush training, and training in the use of rifles.

There were rifles in the police cars, but not all officers would have had up to date training in how to use them.

That is because, it has been claimed, Full Time Reserve Officers are not getting all the refresher training they need because ultimately the reserve is being phased out.

  We were expected to replace maybe up to a thousand soldiers in places like south Armagh at the turn of a page

PSNI officer
The qualification to use a rifle is time limited, and in the case of at least some of the officers on Friday night that time would have expired.

If it had come to it, some of the police would have had to rely on their handguns in a fire fight with men carrying automatic rifles and a rocket propelled grenade launcher.

The odds would have been heavily weighted in favour of the dissidents.

There has been much speculation about why the officers who spotted the gunmen in Meigh did not wait for reinforcements before confronting them.

The officer I spoke to said that is because the eight officers on patrol that night was virtually the full compliment of police available in the whole of south Armagh on Friday night.

There is a marked police car operating in Newry, but it mostly deals with calls in the city itself.

There is also an armed response unit, the Special Operations Branch, which would be fully trained in anti-terrorist techniques, but its nearest base is some distance away, so unless they had already been in the area, it would have taken some time for them to reach the border, had the incident escalated into a gunfight.

"We were expected to replace maybe up to a thousand soldiers in places like south Armagh at the turn of a page," the officer said.

"I'm not saying we should have the Army back. But I believe the dissidents are more and more confident and capable of mounting these operations in border areas.

"We get briefings that they have a heavy machine gun, Semtex and other weaponry. They're building themselves up and we're being scaled back."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8220888.stm
FatherTed
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That could have been a whole lot worse.it always amazes me the lack of attention NI gets in the u.k national press...
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you know fair point.. they sit in their landrovers and watch Loyalist mobs kick Catholics to death in the streets
I meant the IRA, setting up mock checkpoints.
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IG-Calibre
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Dilbert_X wrote:

you know fair point.. they sit in their landrovers and watch Loyalist mobs kick Catholics to death in the streets
I meant the IRA, setting up mock checkpoints.
oh right - well to quote Mal O'Doherty

....... it was a propaganda stunt.
As such, it was a good one.
They can say that they control the roads now and that neither the
forces of the state nor Establishment Republicans can do anything
about them. A photographic image of this checkpoint, if it is
broadcast, will carry the message that the Real IRA is now the
functioning power in the land.
Of course, all they did was stop a few cars on a quiet Friday evening,
in holiday season, hand out a few leaflets and disperse. But the image
of armed republicans acting like the forces of the state, mimicking
the Brits, is a potent one. The Provisionals made several attempts to
disport themselves in this way, as did the Official IRA, patrolling
the markets area of Belfast in their own jeep in 1972.
One of the big clashes between the BBC and the Thatcher government
concerned efforts by journalists to film an IRA checkpoint in
Carrickmore in County Tyrone.
There is not a lot of footage out there of tooled up paramilitaries
swanking with their guns, looking as if they can operate as freely in
the Northern Irish countryside as, say, Hamas does in Gaza. We tend to
see the same clips over and over again.
In that the Real IRA is fighting a propaganda war rather than a
military contest for territory, the more it can present itself as
looking like an actual army, to the embarrassment of Sinn Fein and the
police, the more effectively it makes the case abroad that the
conflict continues.
full analysis here - http://malachiodoherty.com/2009/08/26/checkpoint/
IG-Calibre
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Bomb / I.E.D  Left on pavement / side walk

The device, which police have described as "crude, but viable", was found in the Windmill Hill area of the city.

A police spokesperson said they were made aware on Friday night of a claim that a suspicious object had been left.

The Army examined the object before removing it for further examination. They want anyone with information about the incident to contact them.

SDLP Newry and Armagh MLA Dominic Bradley said those responsible for the bomb had shown a "blatant disregard for public safety".

"It is extremely worrying that this device has been described as viable and we are very lucky that no one has been injured or killed," he said.

"Those responsible need to wake up and realise that their actions are without any support in the community. They are enemies of peace."
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8228200.stm
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FatherTed wrote:

That could have been a whole lot worse.it always amazes me the lack of attention NI gets in the u.k national press...
Same old same old I guess, people just tune out when they hear NI....
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FatherTed wrote:

That could have been a whole lot worse.it always amazes me the lack of attention NI gets in the u.k national press...
The media over here never reports things like this unless somebody gets killed. Its like, when there isn't enough people dying - say due to swine flu - the media drops the story. Sad state of affairs really.
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A 600lb bomb has been made safe by an Army bomb disposal team near Forkhill, County Armagh, on the border with the Republic of Ireland.

The device had a command wire running from where it was planted in Northern Ireland to a firing point across the border.

It is suspected that dissident republicans planted the bomb.

Police said that there could have been a "devastating outcome" and that the police were the targets of the bombers.

"The actions of terrorist criminals in planting this device in the Forkhill area put local people and police officers at significant risk," Chief Inspector Sam Cordner said.

'Reckless'

"Their actions were reckless and dangerous in the extreme. Their target may have been the police, but they did not care who they killed or injured.



Police on both sides of the border were involved in the operation
"It is only through the hard work and professionalism of police officers and their military colleagues that the area has been made safe."

The remains of the device, which contained fertiliser-based homemade explosives, have been removed for further examination.

The Irish Army and police carried out a similar security operation in the Republic.

The alert in the area began last Tuesday following a telephoned warning to a newspaper.

Sinn Fein MP for Newry and Armagh, Conor Murphy said he was "extremely concerned."

He said: "I would question the motives of those who are putting the local community in such danger.

Dangerous

"I challenge those who have planted this bomb in the community to come forward and explain why they have done so? How is this furthering the struggle for Irish freedom?"

SDLP MLA Dominic Bradley condemned those who planted the bomb and also questioned the police response.

"Everybody accepts the dangerous nature of policing this type of threat by the PSNI, however, serious questions must be asked about the response time in dealing with the device and evacuating people from their nearby homes.

"It seems the PSNI may have known about this bomb days before they moved people and if that's the case then it's certainly cause for much concern."

In January, a 300lb bomb was defused in Castlewellan, County Down.

It is thought the bomb was planted by dissident republicans who were trying to target the Ballykinler army base.

In May the component parts of another fertiliser bomb were found near Rosslea in County Fermanagh.

About 100lbs of explosives were found in a field near the Donagh to Rosslea Road.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8244138.stm
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600lb's is quite a size.

What the hell are these people doing?
Dilbert_X
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Oh FFS.
Suggest we divert some Afghanistan vets to NI for a month or two to wind down.

Or maybe the mainstream Republicans could just go kneecap the dissident Republicans?

Seriously, WTF are the dissident Republicans playing at this time?

And another thing, if Gordon Brown wants the Libyans to compensate people affected by the IRA, how about he just get Sinn Fein and the IRA to pay bloody compensation?

This is funny though:
Sinn Fein MP for Newry and Armagh, Conor Murphy said "I challenge those who have planted this bomb in the community to come forward and explain why they have done so? How is this furthering the struggle for Irish freedom?"

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2009-09-08 06:48:50)

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Dilbert_X wrote:

This is funny though:
Sinn Fein MP for Newry and Armagh, Conor Murphy said "I challenge those who have planted this bomb in the community to come forward and explain why they have done so? How is this furthering the struggle for Irish freedom?"
Would you expect anything less ?
IG-Calibre
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The dissident republican Real IRA have admitted three overnight attacks in Derry on Friday.

The relatives of a serving police officer were the target of two suspected bombs.

The first device exploded outside his parents' home in Shantallow, while a second device is being examined outside his sister's home in Kylemore Park.

In the statement the group also claimed responsibility for shooting a man in his legs and hand at about 0130 BST.

A number of masked men forced their way into the house at Drumard Park in Ballymagroarty.

The man was taken to hospital where his condition is said to be stable.

There have been six paramilitary-style shootings in Derry in the past four weeks.

Several people were asked to leave their homes in Kylemore Park when the device was spotted at about 0730 BST.

There were no injuries but a car was damaged in the Shantallow explosion.

Inspector Jon Burrows said the groups carrying out these attacks were distracting police from doing their job.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ire … 250458.stm
Dilbert_X
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Reckon the SAS could use some R+R.

Chorcai wrote:

Would you expect anything less ?
Its funny coming from Sinn Fein/IRA.
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Gunmen 'were among town rioters' - Rioters who hijacked at least five vehicles in Lurgan, County Armagh, were "a disgrace to Northern Ireland", the police have said.

Two vans set alight and abandoned on a railway track have been removed.

Trouble is thought to have been sparked by the jailing of three men from the town over a dissident republican plot to kill police with a mortar bomb.

Chief Inspector Jason Murphy said police had received numerous reports of armed men in the area.

"While there are no reports of any shots being fired, this is not acceptable behaviour for our streets and robust action will be taken," he said.

He said there were no reports of petrol bombs being thrown and no-one was injured.

"This was clearly an attempt to draw my officers into the situation to escalate the violence and to cause serious disruption or injury," he added.


Dissident mortar bomb gang jailed 
Two vans were hijacked on Thursday night in the Kilwilkie estate, while an articulated lorry was also set on fire in the nearby Tullygally estate.

SDLP MLA Dolores Kelly said said disturbances had been anticipated following the sentencing of the three dissident republicans but police faced a difficult job in these situations.

"I spoke to the police on Tuesday and they had additional resources in the town and were well-prepared for all eventualities," she said.

"The trap is of course to draw the police down into the area where there are hijacked vehicles."

Ms Kelly said those behind the trouble were "a very small minority of people dragging the whole community down".

Disruption

Public transport company Translink said rail services were disrupted between Lisburn and Portadown and a bus substitution service is in place.

Lake Street, near the railway crossing where the vans were abandoned, remained closed on Friday morning.

The trouble came after three Lurgan men were each jailed for 15 years for plotting to kill police officers with a mortar bomb.

Damien McKenna, 26, of Deans Walk, Gary Toman, 24, of Drumnahoe Avenue and Sean McConville, 23, of Kilwilkie Road, pleaded guilty.

A live mortar, complete with launching tube, was found near the Cornakinnegar Road in April 2007.

The police said they believed the men were members of the dissident republican Continuity IRA.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/northern_ireland/8262241.stm
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wow takes balls to be a cop in Ireland
Dilbert_X
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WTF Is wrong with these jerks? Killing police for the fun of it?
Send the SAS over, no messing.
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IG-Calibre
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looking back through this thread it's pretty depressing tbh so i'm going to inject a comic interlude to lighten the load..

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