What companies would you like to see fail?

2009-02-20 22:00:13

#1

ATG: Banned; +5,233|6832|Global Command

Soundtrack for this thread; _{( pro tip; open in another window and let play while reading )}

I sort of remember a similar thread, but for me it's Home Depot.

They whore out contracting with big budget advertising farming service, sell nothing but Chinese made junk and have too many locations killing small ma and pa hardware stores.

A Sunday edition of the New York Times cost more than a share of its stock. http://adage.com/adages/post?article_id=134620

Some see no bottom. http://www.reuters.com/article/business … mp;sp=true

We will soon have to worry about Terminator style robots running wild. http://technology.timesonline.co.uk/tol … 741334.ece

Who would you like to see go out of business?

2009-02-20 22:06:49

#2

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6456|what

Another contractor:

Blackwater.

But seriously most companies (even the ones you don't like) are useful in that they increase competition of the sellers.

lmao at the music, it's playing in the background.

edit: poseidon, blockbuster arent too bad, haven't you ever done the burn and return? i can see how netflix would be superior tho

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2009-02-20 22:07:03

#3

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6841|Long Island, New York

Blockbuster.

Netflix/Gamefly ftw!

2009-02-20 22:22:59

#4

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6988|United States of America

Apple

2009-02-20 22:32:33

#5

imortal: Member; +240|6968|Austin, TX

AussieReaper wrote:
Another contractor:

Blackwater.

First, blackwater has changed their name.

Second, the area that they catch so much crap for (the securtiy personnel in Iraq) is actually a small part of what they do. But nobody cares about anything like that, as long as they have a juicy media story and an ominous sounding name, right?

Oh, does California count as a company? Maybe that will shock some politicians (on BOTH sides) into a bit of fiscal responsibility.

2009-02-20 22:34:39

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6456|what

imortal wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Another contractor:

Blackwater.
First, blackwater has changed their name.

Second, the area that they catch so much crap for (the securtiy personnel in Iraq) is actually a small part of what they do. But nobody cares about anything like that, as long as they have a juicy media story and an ominous sounding name, right?

I'm not against just the media shit, Mercs for hire all over the world is a really bad concept imo and should be outlawed. But whatever.

2009-02-20 22:38:40

#7

imortal: Member; +240|6968|Austin, TX

AussieReaper wrote:
imortal wrote:
AussieReaper wrote:
Another contractor:

Blackwater.
First, blackwater has changed their name.

Second, the area that they catch so much crap for (the securtiy personnel in Iraq) is actually a small part of what they do. But nobody cares about anything like that, as long as they have a juicy media story and an ominous sounding name, right?
I'm not against just the media shit, Mercs for hire all over the world is a really bad concept imo and should be outlawed. But whatever.

...but it is the second oldest profession! And what actually qualifies as a mercinary these days? If you hire a security guard, and you pay him... and he leaves if you don't pay him, is he a mercenary? Or does he have to carry a gun? Does he have to go to another country? If the federal goverment pays them, are they mercenaries, or just 'irregular' troops? Does it matter who their money is coming from?

..and my media comment is mostly a general comment. If it does not pertain to you, don't sweat it, or a 'mia culpa' for making it seem I was attacking you personally.

EDIT: Oh, and what about the Swiss Guard? You know, the mercs who protect the Vatican?

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2009-02-20 22:40:07

#8

Poseidon: Fudgepack DeQueef; +3,253|6841|Long Island, New York

bring back Hessians imo

2009-02-20 22:44:43

#9

AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6456|what

imortal wrote:
...but it is the second oldest profession! And what actually qualifies as a mercinary these days? If you hire a security guard, and you pay him... and he leaves if you don't pay him, is he a mercenary? Or does he have to carry a gun? Does he have to go to another country? If the federal goverment pays them, are they mercenaries, or just 'irregular' troops? Does it matter who their money is coming from?

..and my media comment is mostly a general comment. If it does not pertain to you, don't sweat it, or a 'mia culpa' for making it seem I was attacking you personally.

EDIT: Oh, and what about the Swiss Guard? You know, the mercs who protect the Vatican?

See private armies looking to go where the dollar signs are is what I consider mercs. Private armies run under the guise of a corporate logo, paid for to fight with or against local militia, is what I could consider mercs.

If in your mind that includes the vatican then good for you. Please try to keep away from any shiny objects, they may distract you.

2009-02-20 22:52:35

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imortal: Member; +240|6968|Austin, TX

AussieReaper wrote:
imortal wrote:
...but it is the second oldest profession! And what actually qualifies as a mercinary these days? If you hire a security guard, and you pay him... and he leaves if you don't pay him, is he a mercenary? Or does he have to carry a gun? Does he have to go to another country? If the federal goverment pays them, are they mercenaries, or just 'irregular' troops? Does it matter who their money is coming from?

..and my media comment is mostly a general comment. If it does not pertain to you, don't sweat it, or a 'mia culpa' for making it seem I was attacking you personally.

EDIT: Oh, and what about the Swiss Guard? You know, the mercs who protect the Vatican?
See private armies looking to go where the dollar signs are is what I consider mercs. Private armies run under the guise of a corporate logo, paid for to fight with or against local militia, is what I could consider mercs.

If in your mind that includes the vatican then good for you. Please try to keep away from any shiny objects, they may distract you.

Ummm, the Swiss Guard started life as a mercenary unit, hired by the Vatican to guard it. There was a huge uproar at the time by not using an Italian mecenary group, but the Vatican wanted a unit of foreigners, to maintain its loyalty, and try to prevent any loyalty to local establishments that may corrupt its security force.

Through history, mercenary units have been used. Whether for missions that were 'unseemly,' or ones that would look better the fewer official soldiers died, or even as a low cost measure, since you would not have to pay them during peacetime, mecs have always been around. The 'second-oldest-profession' bit was not a joke.

For that matter, how would you classify the entire French Foreigh Legion? As long as someone takes money to fight (and that includes the ENTIRE armed forces from EVERY nation- well, all the volunteers, anyway), there can be an arguement about them being mercenary. Mercs got a bad rap through the ages, about being unprofessional, switching sides for a bit more money, and for being unethical. They have been getting a beating in the press and in entertainment, all the way back to Machiavelli. Most of it unearned.

2009-02-20 22:57:56

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AussieReaper: ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°); +5,761|6456|what

imortal wrote:
Ummm, the Swiss Guard started life as a mercenary unit, hired by the Vatican to guard it. There was a huge uproar at the time by not using an Italian mecenary group, but the Vatican wanted a unit of foreigners, to maintain its loyalty, and try to prevent any loyalty to local establishments that may corrupt its security force.

Through history, mercenary units have been used. Whether for missions that were 'unseemly,' or ones that would look better the fewer official soldiers died, or even as a low cost measure, since you would not have to pay them during peacetime, mecs have always been around. The 'second-oldest-profession' bit was not a joke.

For that matter, how would you classify the entire French Foreigh Legion? As long as someone takes money to fight (and that includes the ENTIRE armed forces from EVERY nation- well, all the volunteers, anyway), there can be an arguement about them being mercenary. Mercs got a bad rap through the ages, about being unprofessional, switching sides for a bit more money, and for being unethical. They have been getting a beating in the press and in entertainment, all the way back to Machiavelli. Most of it unearned.

lol I'm sure when you get the know them they are really nice guys too. The Swiss Guard hasn't left the Vatican to go fight anywhere lately. Neither has the french foreign legion, irrc the last action they saw was Gulf War I.

Mercs in this day are vastly different from the formation of the vatican security personal that are for show more than anything these days. And the French foreign legion doesn't act independently of France.

2009-02-20 22:58:48

#12

{M5}Sniper3: Typical white person.; +389|7063|San Antonio, Texas

I wouldn't like to see any companies fail. I also wouldn't like to see the government prop up companies that are going to fail.

2009-02-20 23:08:16

#13

imortal: Member; +240|6968|Austin, TX

AussieReaper wrote:
Mercs in this day are vastly different from the formation of the vatican security personal that are for show more than anything these days. And the French foreign legion doesn't act independently of France.

Not lately. Not except for that time they were sold to Spain to fight against Mexican forces fighting for indipendance. Or that time they actually fought against France when Alberta tried to rebel from the French. But not anytime lately, you are right.

My issue is that lots of people toss around the tag 'Mercenary' without understanding its meaning or history. But that happens with a lot of words nowadays. The ignorant perpetuate language into the minds of the masses (books, movies, tv shows, politicians, media), and the public uses it, never knowing how wrong they are. Or caring, usually. It is most often encountered in the more martial subjects, since most of those who create the books, movies, tv shows, etc... couldn't be bothered to actually learn something from such an unsavory field of study.

2009-02-20 23:14:29

#14

jsnipy: ...; +3,277|6825|...

Kinkos

2009-02-20 23:15:17

#15

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

DesertFox- wrote:
Apple

wut.. why?

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-20 23:18:26

#16

S.Lythberg: Mastermind; +429|6750|Chicago, IL

pet sweaters
anything that has infomercials
energy drinks
tobacco
sue happy lawyers

the world would be a better place without these things

2009-02-20 23:22:06

#17

Kmar: Truth is my Bitch; +5,695|6904|132 and Bush

puppy mills

Xbone Stormsurgezz

2009-02-20 23:24:34

#18

13rin: Member; +977|6782

acorn

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2009-02-21 00:05:06

#19

SGT_Dicklewicz: Member; +33|6928

Comcast!

2009-02-21 03:13:25

#20

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,817|6409|eXtreme to the maX

Blackwater
Anyone connected with Dick Cheney
Microsoft - Except the section which does XP updates
GM - They killed the electric car (having developed and commercialised it in the first place)

Fuck Israel

2009-02-21 03:42:58

#21

G00gle because it could never happen.

2009-02-21 04:06:44

#22

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6714|'Murka

Puppy mills
Tobacco
Any lawyer that advertises on TV
Any company/organization that is more concerned with influencing politicians than with providing a useful product/service for the consumer

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2009-02-21 04:06:55

#23

CameronPoe: Member; +2,925|6858

Halliburton
Kellogg, Brown & Root
The Carlyle Group
News Corporation

2009-02-21 04:58:50

#24

Switch: Knee Deep In Clunge; +489|6766|Tyne & Wear, England

Newcastle Utd.

Somewhere, something incredible is waiting to be known.

2009-02-21 05:42:01

#25

BN: smells like wee wee; +159|7071

Nestle

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