Well we are taller than our counterparts from 100 years ago. It has a lot to do with our diet however.
its deevolution smarter people tend to have more money and when you have more money you dont have 7 kids with you at the busstop and another on the way.
We're at the top of the food chain because the dinosaurs were wiped out 60 million years ago. Without that "reset" mammals never would have had a chance to grow advanced enough to challenge them. Dinosaurs existed 40,000 times longer than recorded human history.andy12 wrote:
Humans are the only species where their only defence isn't teeth, or an armoured skin, or claws, but a brain that allows us to advance. We're top of the Food chain not because we can beat the shit out of Lions with our bare hands, but because we have developed assault rifles. So until the defining factor of humans being able to grow smarter is finished, we are evolving slowly. Any noticeable differences in evolution can't be seen in the amount of time we have been recording history, what, 4000 years? Try 1000 times that to see any change, maybe.
And how is us "Declining morally and socially" anything to do with a reverse of evolution? They are man made ideals which are defined but what the majority think. When China hurry up and change the meaning of morals to existing to serve the state rather than living then we'll be as "moral" as you like...
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Human evolution is not over. What's different now is that we are starting to control the direction of our evolution.
Evolution doesn't mean 'gets more advanced'. You can't reverse evolution. It always acts in a forwards direction, when the crunch time comes, those that are best suited survive. This may well mean the dumber, simpler version survives while the super clever one dies off.
Humanity, as with all life, is still undergoing evolution. The selection process may be vastly different to what other creatures experience, but it's still evolution.
Humanity, as with all life, is still undergoing evolution. The selection process may be vastly different to what other creatures experience, but it's still evolution.
According to some people we are seeing a divergence into two distinct groups.
eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
Trailer trash tend to breed with trailer trash or hillbillies, they are becoming dumber, fatter, shorter, uglier and developing reduced life expectancy
Professionals tend to breed with other professionals, or the pick of the attractive secretaries, they are becoming taller, smarter, healthier, better looking and with longer life expectancy.
They also educate their kids not to breed with hicks.
HG Wells predicted this in 'The Time Machine' with the Eloi and the Morlochs.
eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
Trailer trash tend to breed with trailer trash or hillbillies, they are becoming dumber, fatter, shorter, uglier and developing reduced life expectancy
Professionals tend to breed with other professionals, or the pick of the attractive secretaries, they are becoming taller, smarter, healthier, better looking and with longer life expectancy.
They also educate their kids not to breed with hicks.
HG Wells predicted this in 'The Time Machine' with the Eloi and the Morlochs.
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I guess since I'm a fatter, shorter, uglier professional that I have no chance to cross-breed then?Dilbert_X wrote:
According to some people we are seeing a divergence into two distinct groups.
eg http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Bell_Curve
Trailer trash tend to breed with trailer trash or hillbillies, they are becoming dumber, fatter, shorter, uglier and developing reduced life expectancy
Professionals tend to breed with other professionals, or the pick of the attractive secretaries, they are becoming taller, smarter, healthier, better looking and with longer life expectancy.
They also educate their kids not to breed with hicks.
HG Wells predicted this in 'The Time Machine' with the Eloi and the Morlochs.
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Take comfort in the knowledge the gene pool will be a happier place without your contributionI guess since I'm a fatter, shorter, uglier professional that I have no chance to cross-breed then?
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Let me go take off my jacket, my shoes, and my contacts.. then i'll try and respond to that.Flecco wrote:
Wonder if mechanical augmentation of the human body for improved functionality will take off at all if the technology becomes avaliable...
Our species is pretty much defined by our use of intelligence to find ways to mechanically augment our abilities. Spears, Fire, Language, Tools, Medicine.
Hip replacement, artificial heart valves, surgical titanium inserts, artificial joints, pacemakers, etc..
The NFL would be full of bionic men, but Grandma beat 'em to the doctor's office.
You know perfectly well I meant physical replacement of limbs or organs with artificial versions for improved functionality.
Not to fix any 'defects' or faults in the original eye, as with glasses, but to replace it with an artificially created better eye.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
I mistook your meaning as well then. Artificial limbs aren't nearly as big of a "problem" as things like clothing and glasses. They are what make humans that would otherwise be unfit and killed off before their 8th birthday able to continue living and reproduce.Flecco wrote:
Smartass.rdx-fx wrote:
Let me go take off my jacket, my shoes, and my contacts.. then i'll try and respond to that.Flecco wrote:
Wonder if mechanical augmentation of the human body for improved functionality will take off at all if the technology becomes avaliable...
Our species is pretty much defined by our use of intelligence to find ways to mechanically augment our abilities. Spears, Fire, Language, Tools, Medicine.
Hip replacement, artificial heart valves, surgical titanium inserts, artificial joints, pacemakers, etc..
The NFL would be full of bionic men, but Grandma beat 'em to the doctor's office.
You know perfectly well I meant physical replacement of limbs or organs with artificial versions for improved functionality.
Not to fix any 'defects' or faults in the original eye, as with glasses, but to replace it with an artificially created better eye.
Its not over. Its just massively slowed because people that would die for being "weaker" in an evolutionary sense survive thanks to medicines, etc.
However there will still be people that are more resistant to things like cancer which currently aren't easily cured and therefore get to have children etc etc.
However there will still be people that are more resistant to things like cancer which currently aren't easily cured and therefore get to have children etc etc.
I think their numbers are trivial unless we have a worldwide airborn cancer pandemic.Vilham wrote:
Its not over. Its just massively slowed because people that would die for being "weaker" in an evolutionary sense survive thanks to medicines, etc.
However there will still be people that are more resistant to things like cancer which currently aren't easily cured and therefore get to have children etc etc.
Well apparently 60% of people will get cancer in the life or something.
You mean 'cancer during life' or 'cancer in the liver'?
Either way it's more like 30% for any CancerLai wrote:
You mean 'cancer during life' or 'cancer in the liver'?
sorry meant "their"Lai wrote:
You mean 'cancer during life' or 'cancer in the liver'?
i think the human brain is evolving at a very fast rate. think of what we've accomplished in the past 50 years compared to whales or turtles. i think our brain is evolving faster than any other living thing on the planet.
steel, I'd argue the brain isn't evolving, but our knowledge base is expanding as each new generation of innovators, thinkers, philosophers and scientists come along.
Who was it that said we all stand on the shoulders of giants or something? Newton or one of those guys.
Who was it that said we all stand on the shoulders of giants or something? Newton or one of those guys.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Our brain hasn't really 'evolved' much in the last 40,000 years. A child from 30,000 B.C. born today would lead a normal life.
There's a good Discovery channel show that went into the evolution of our Brains that was pretty interesting. What was probably the most notable adaptation we had was the opposable thumb and the discovery of fire.
Technology today is just a glorified stick.
There's a good Discovery channel show that went into the evolution of our Brains that was pretty interesting. What was probably the most notable adaptation we had was the opposable thumb and the discovery of fire.
Technology today is just a glorified stick.
I very much doubt that, take a look at any non-european aboriginal culture.Our brain hasn't really 'evolved' much in the last 40,000 years. A child from 30,000 B.C. born today would lead a normal life.
They don't do too well even with the advantages of modern education.
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True, but regarding thé Aboriginals; they aren't exactly stimulated either. Australia grants them unusually high wellfare benefits out of guilt, which means they can afford doing nothing and being drunk 48/7.Dilbert_X wrote:
I very much doubt that, take a look at any non-european aboriginal culture.Our brain hasn't really 'evolved' much in the last 40,000 years. A child from 30,000 B.C. born today would lead a normal life.
They don't do too well even with the advantages of modern education.
I was talking about many other aboriginals, Australia, Africa, North America, South America, Canada etc.
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So are you implying that "aboriginals" are somehow less evolved than non-aboriginals?Dilbert_X wrote:
I very much doubt that, take a look at any non-european aboriginal culture.Our brain hasn't really 'evolved' much in the last 40,000 years. A child from 30,000 B.C. born today would lead a normal life.
They don't do too well even with the advantages of modern education.
Or are you arguing that it is the culture--not nature--that holds them back?
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One could say laziness and a sense of being owed something could have something to do with it. Not evolution.FEOS wrote:
So are you implying that "aboriginals" are somehow less evolved than non-aboriginals?Dilbert_X wrote:
I very much doubt that, take a look at any non-european aboriginal culture.Our brain hasn't really 'evolved' much in the last 40,000 years. A child from 30,000 B.C. born today would lead a normal life.
They don't do too well even with the advantages of modern education.
Or are you arguing that it is the culture--not nature--that holds them back?
But then again that is a grouse generalisation of Aborigines. A few have become very successful, I just wish the rest would follow suit and at least try, go to school even. That is a different debate, however.