Snake
Missing, Presumed Dead
+1,046|6869|England

If we start building nuclear power plants...what are Iran going to think? "They can do it, but they don't want us to? Fuck the West" (even more).

We can't try to dictate what other countries cannot do, if we go ahead and do it ourselves.

That, and all the environmental stuff and obvious terrorist targets.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7010|67.222.138.85

original article you posted wrote:

The nearly 50-year old design was invented by Dr. Otis “Pete” Peterson at the United States’ famed Los Alamos National Laboratory (LANL) in New Mexico and has proved safe for students to use. Often referred to as a “nuclear battery,” the Hyperion HyperDrive is self-regulating with no mechanical parts to break down or otherwise fail. Sealed at the factory, the module is not opened until it has been returned to the factory to be refueled, approximately every five years or so, depending on use. This containment, along with the strategy of completely burying the module at the operating site, protects against the possibility of human incompetence, or hostile tampering and proliferation.
Lots of other interesting things coming up with this new info.

same article wrote:

Hyperion Power Generation, a New Mexico company, is planning to mass market within 5 years a small, modular, non-weapons grade nuclear power reactor named the Hyperion Hyperdrive – in other words, your own personal nuclear power plant!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hyperion_Power_Generation wrote:

Fuel: uranium metal enriched to ~5% U-235, civil grade, solid phase, granular; thorium metal granules can be used as well. Essentially, enriched uranium metal that has absorbed a large amount of hydrogen.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium-235 wrote:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Uranium-235]The fissile uranium in nuclear weapons usually contains 85% or more of 235U known as weapon(s)-grade, though for a crude, inefficient weapon 20% is sufficient (called weapon(s)-usable); even less is sufficient, but then the critical mass required rapidly increases. However, judicious use of implosion and neutron reflectors can enable construction of a weapon from a quantity of uranium below the usual critical mass for its level of enrichment, though this would likely only be possible in a country which already had extensive experience in developing nuclear weapons.
1) original source is shit

2) obvious security problem
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina
Nuclear power may or may not be the best option for America, but it has to be better for Europe than being so dependent on Russia.
..teddy..jimmy
Member
+1,393|6953
The shear risk of operating a nuclear power station in addition to the waste problem is outweighed by beautiful more environmentally friendly hydroelectric power stations. <3 Norway
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6904|132 and Bush

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

original source is shit
You mean THE BLOG was inaccurate? The original article was old. I usually link back to threads posted here within the site.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Lots of other interesting things coming up with this new info.
So rather than spending the effort in looking at I was talking about you just make the wrong assumption.. twice. You're so full of yourself. You are clearly wrong. Not that you'd ever admit it.

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

I replied a problem is the not in my backyard mentality

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Obvious security problem.
Educate yourself first, it's not my job. You won't look so foolish.
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Zefar
Member
+116|6952|Sweden

..teddy..jimmy wrote:

The shear risk of operating a nuclear power station in addition to the waste problem is outweighed by beautiful more environmentally friendly hydroelectric power stations. <3 Norway
I have been on an Nuclear power plant and they are not as dirty as people think. This was in Sweden and I was at Ringhals several years ago.

All that power plant did was make the water outside the pipes a bit warmer than usual and some new species stayed at just that place.

Otherwise it was nothing much in pollution from the plant itself.

Having a meltdown would mean nothing since it's so protective and it had like 1-2 meter thick concrete walls on the outer side.


But yea the reason countries don't want to use it is.

1: Still afraid that it will have a meltdown like Chernobyl
2: The radio active waste takes quite a long time to become neutral again.
3: Still think it's dirty to the pollution.
4: Still live in the past.

You could actually live next to a nuclear power plant for 50 years and during this time. Drinking coka cola would be much harder on your health than that power plant. You'd have a bigger risk of dieing from a car crash. You'd died of age before the plant did anything to you.

We come a long way with protection on that nuclear waste. But it's like this 1 Nuclear power plant = Supply like 70% ish of Sweden power usage. Just one.

Since we have no earthquakes it's fine to.
BVC
Member
+325|6999
The "micro" reactors such as the Hyperion one to which Kmarion refers or Toshiba's offering do mitigate the earthquake risk somewhat, by virtue of their size.  I imagine that with refinement of electric motor vehicle technology, they could have siginificant military applications also (electric powered tank anyone?).  Because they are so small, they can potentially be placed onsite, thus achieving a "decentralisation" effect - less power lost through transmission lines.

The nuclear & terrorism themes present in the news also don't help.
Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7010|67.222.138.85

Kmarion wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Lots of other interesting things coming up with this new info.
So rather than spending the effort in looking at I was talking about you just make the wrong assumption.. twice. You're so full of yourself. You are clearly wrong. Not that you'd ever admit it.
I will look at the information presented to me, by the manufacturer to make my analysis. Since they don't feel the need to post any of their technology on their website for people to look into, I'm going to assume the blogger at least got the very basics of the technology correct. A poor assumption as it turns out.

Regardless, my skepticism was correct. It has many of the same problems as traditional nuclear power plants, including security issues and the not in my backyard problem.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6904|132 and Bush

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Kmarion wrote:

Flaming_Maniac wrote:

Lots of other interesting things coming up with this new info.
So rather than spending the effort in looking at I was talking about you just make the wrong assumption.. twice. You're so full of yourself. You are clearly wrong. Not that you'd ever admit it.
I will look at the information presented to me, by the manufacturer to make my analysis. Since they don't feel the need to post any of their technology on their website for people to look into, I'm going to assume the blogger at least got the very basics of the technology correct. A poor assumption as it turns out.

Regardless, my skepticism was correct. It has many of the same problems as traditional nuclear power plants, including security issues and the not in my backyard problem.
I'll meet you half way. I should have gave an updated link. But you're condescending attitude is bs. If it were anyone else I would have drop kicked your ass.
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7010|67.222.138.85
Condescending to the pricks who don't put any useful info on their site, not to you.

People that make sites for "miracle tech" and don't explain anything suck. They make for lots of mis or uninformed chatter on the internats (such as that blog) and never deliver.

Also, you never would have gotten close. My reflexes are far superior.
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6904|132 and Bush

It's emerging technology. Like the first reports on the news they are notoriously inaccurate (running with a little information). Blogs are rumor mills. Not always wrong, but yea.. worthy of skepticism. The problem is that you didn't even consider that I was personally looking into it.
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Flaming_Maniac
prince of insufficient light
+2,490|7010|67.222.138.85
Relatively irrelevant. I am posting my thoughts on what you posted...you can post your thoughts on what you posted after you look into it.
usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7065

mod fight lulz
Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6904|132 and Bush

usmarine wrote:

mod fight lulz
I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
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usmarine
Banned
+2,785|7065

Kmarion wrote:

usmarine wrote:

mod fight lulz
I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?
get the fuck out of here tommy
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6993|Tampa Bay Florida
2nd amendment y'all

oh wait the constitution only applies to us... shit that sucks so much for spreading freedom

Last edited by Spearhead (2009-02-14 08:47:38)

Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6904|132 and Bush

Spearhead wrote:

2nd amendment y'all

oh wait the constitution only applies to us... shit that sucks so much for spreading freedom
Spearhead, my fellow Tampon Tampainian, I must admit.. this post has me confused.
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Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6993|Tampa Bay Florida

Kmarion wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

2nd amendment y'all

oh wait the constitution only applies to us... shit that sucks so much for spreading freedom
Spearhead, my fellow Tampon Tampainian, I must admit.. this post has me confused.
Tampa Bay(ian) sounds a little less.... idk, disgusting

And yes my post confused me as well.  I guess I was trying to say that if were we to allow a country like, say, Iraq, the 2nd amendment without strings attached, the place would be fucked. 

Wouldn't the right to bear arms = right own a nuclear warhead, in the most extreme case?
JahManRed
wank
+646|6931|IRELAND

usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

So, why don't more countries invest in nuke power.
chernobyl, 3 mile island, hippies, green peace retards, etc
Green peace retards who don't want to see thousands or millions more kids like this:
https://baldiness.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/04/ChildrenChernobyl.jpg
Turquoise
O Canada
+1,596|6708|North Carolina

JahManRed wrote:

usmarine wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

So, why don't more countries invest in nuke power.
chernobyl, 3 mile island, hippies, green peace retards, etc
Green peace retards who don't want to see thousands or millions more kids like this:
http://baldiness.com/wp-content/uploads … rnobyl.jpg
Nuke plants haven't been bad for Canada.  France's record is pretty good too.
FatherTed
xD
+3,936|6803|so randum

Turquoise wrote:

JahManRed wrote:

usmarine wrote:


chernobyl, 3 mile island, hippies, green peace retards, etc
Green peace retards who don't want to see thousands or millions more kids like this:
http://baldiness.com/wp-content/uploads … rnobyl.jpg
Nuke plants haven't been bad for Canada.  France's record is pretty good too.
Or us either, cept we need new ones about now
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